Ted Wells' Investigation on Deflategate reveals that Tom Brady probably knew
Ted Wells has finished his investigation of Deflategate, and it does not look good for our boy.
According to the recently released report and various outlets, Tom Brady likely at least knew about the deflating. May have been involved.
EDIT: Here's a link to the NFL's statement on the investigation.
The NFL's page links to the report itself.
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As I recall, Aaron Rodgers in particular talked about perferring his balls to be inflated past the limit and hopes refs don't let any air out.
I'm sure Olivia Munn and Aaron have figured out ways to relieve the pressure.
Upvoted to counterbalance the lame downvote.
No doubt Aaron must love this song....
Hilarious, an exhaustive investigation that concludes the Patriots "more probably than not," were responsible and Brady "probably" knew about it. The investgators, and all the shocked moralizers in particular that had the vapors during this time, really should have spent their time doing something else entirely.
As was pointed out at the time, it had nothing to do with who won the game, almost all the points, and Brady's best stats, were scored during the time that the balls were properly inflated in the second half. In fact, even if the Pats had won by 3 points the idea that this was some shame or disgrace was laughable. A pitcher that gets found scuffing a ball in baseball has FAR more of an advantage than anyone in this situation, and what do we do about that? Everyone smiles, gives him his punishment, and moves on with the game. This didn't even get near to the same area code as that.
They used all of the implied weasel clauses to try and justify their investigation. Sorry, but "probably" means "we have no evidence."
But the NFL will bow to public pressure (like always) and give him a hefty suspension and fine (which will not hold up in arbitration). The NFL must protect the integrity of the game...just not of women
I'd love to see Tom give the league a big F-U and sue them. There is no evidence and "probably" wouldn't cut it in court. The league would have to fold their case.
probablys have a way of turning into definitelys in court
In which court would the statement "Tom Brady Probably (anywhere from 50.00001%-100%) deflated the balls" become "Tom Brady Definitely (100%) deflated the balls?"
and not evidence--because it would be hearsay, including any conclusions. Instead there would be a new, independent investigation---called discovery. Among other things, Brady would have to turn over his texts and subject himself to examination. I don't know what that would show (neither do you), but it may well move it from probably to more likely than not (a preponderance of the evidence) or even definitely. The risks outweigh the benefits. There is zero chance that Tom will choose to start litigation.
do they make a big deal about it when it verged on being an (if quiet) historic custom of QBs?
Expect this to be the way Brady's defenders throw more egg on the NFL's face if he's disciplined.
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That's completely false. Any NFL team that is suspected of doing something that is illegal (by the letter of any law) or immoral in any way comes under fire. The Ravens had to deal with scrutiny about Ray Rice. The Saints had to deal with scrutiny about the bounties they placed on opposing players. Every NFL team is watched like a hawk and when anything unsavory comes out about any of those teams it becomes a story. You can say it's a bigger story because it's the Pats and that's probably true since they did just win a Superbowl and have come under fire before, but this would be news even if it was the Browns, Bills, or Jags suspected of doing this.
...evidence beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt or preponderance of evidence? And I'm not even sure this meets the latter.
Are you talking about what amount of evidence is enough for the NFL to take disciplinary action or what amount of evidence is enough to become a story? Because with the NFL the former is an undefined, moving target that appears to be directly related to how much money the NFL stands to gain or lose based on public opinion. The latter is simply "any hint whatsoever of wrongdoing."
Get back to us when the NFL disciplines Aaron Rogers for his admitted cheating with ball inflation.
did you just compare slightly deflating a ball past its permissable level to Ray Rice or intentionally trying to injury someone?
That's not at all what I did
The NFL has been asking for this to happen by letting teams have their own footballs. It doesn't make any sense to me and no one should be surprised that this happens. The only time teams should be in possesion of game balls is when they are in play.
Why? At literally at every other level of football offensive teams choose their own footballs.
I think what is stupid is to mandate the pressure levels to begin with. There's nothing inherently better or worse about any particular pressure point as evidenced by two of the very few elite qbs in the league, Rogers and Brady, wanting radically different feels to the game ball.
It's obvious that the Pats cheated in the truest sense of the word. They knew the rules, utilized an underhanded method to circumvent them, and thus cheated. I'm sure Brady knew what was going on. It is a stupid rule and I think anyone pretending to really care is kidding themselves if they think it really matters one bit in the scheme of the things, but they still cheated.
you can pass your claim "It's obvious that the Pats cheated in the truest sense of the word" off as fact. You are reading a lot into the word, cheated.
Are you denying the reports conclusions or are you deeming it not "cheating"? If the former, I think you have to be pretty naive to think that it was mere coincidence that the one game day the locker room attendant wasn't left alone with the game balls just happened to be the one day that he left the locker room alone without permission in possession of the game balls, and that this was not a pretty clear indication of the intent to tamper with the balls after official inspection. If the latter, how is knowing a rule, then breaking it in a secritive manner not the truest sense of "cheating"?
Like I said earlier. I think it's a stupid rule. I don't think it helped the Patriots in any meaningful way. But I find it hard to deny that they did cheat. I would give it a slap on the wrist fine and get rid of the rule. But that's just me.
"More probable than not" and "generally aware" in those readings. Also convenient how this comes out the week after the draft. A whole lot of nothing, the whole thing.
Yeah but Brady wouldn't turn his phone over to Tom Wells so therefore he must be guilty. So ridiculous. Wouldn't be surprised if Wells asked him for his Facebook password and his ATM pin too.
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, right??? Get outta here, Wells.
If Brady new nothing why did he not turn his phone over? What is the harm?
Because he has the constitutional right not to turn it over? Seems pretty simple to me.
Errrr....no, he doesn't. The constitutional right to privacy does not protect against intrusions by NON-STATE actors.
If Wells had stolen his phone, it would be larceny, but not a violation of his constitutional rights.
good call, jumped the gun on that
Says the guy who lurks on 4chan looking for Giselle pics.
Because naked pictures of Gisele are worth a lot more than some bad publicity.
The Apple cloud has already shared those.
Of value on my phone, but there is no way I'm turning it over to anyone without a warrant. Same thing with letting law enforcement into my house. Nothing to hide, but not letting somone just poke around without that warrant.
And i find the "well, if you have nothing to hide, then...." attitude to be pretty damn stupid.
When did people just stop caring about privacy?
because it IS stupid. Almost everyone has SOMETHING to hide. Most people just don't realize it.
For a super-famous person like Brady, something that seems completely innocent could be sold to a tabloid for big $$$ and blown-up into a huge story.
we're in the minority now. People seem to just show and tell the world everything these days.
that you wrote that post in haste without considering it thoroughly.
If not, then that argument (that only people who have something to hide wouldn't share their phone) leads down so many paths normal people don't want to go.
I just ask, "Have you ever used curtains?"
Would you turn your phone over to some stranger, a phone that is filled with a lot of personal information like contacts, texts, emails, etc. that he/she has no business knowing? Brady has absolutely nothing to gain by it, even if it WERE a good idea.
"ghost"...can you not see that your blind hatred for the Patriots clouds your vision? You are truly the stupidest kind of fan alive.
Cause he had no legal requirement to and his phone likely contained both personal and private information.
If the NFL or any other organization wants to take your things without a legal warrant, you say no! 99 out of 100 lawyers agree and that last guy is representing himself.
new?
His ATM password is "Bosco"
His pin is Bosco.
The Rogue's Cellphone. That's where he kept his texts, his dirtly little secret. Tall, handsome, successful - his name was Brady. He killed my Colts.
Aware but not fully aware... amiright???
Potatoes gon' potate
Alligators gon' alligate
Patriots gon' deflate