Targeting rule/penalties
As we all know (or should know), the targeting rule has been questionably applied across the college football spectrum. While the official intentions of the rule to reduce head injuries/trauma are laudable (although there is an arguement that this is more to preclude future lawsuits), the greatest problem I have about the rule is the ejection of the offending player. Currently, if a player commits an egregious personal foul (non-targetting) or unsportsmanlike behavior they at leat get a warning penalty (w/ or w/o yardage) before being ejected. Yet, even with unintentional "targeting" the player is gone.
The NCAA had the opportunity to revise the rule over the off-season and at least allowed the replay booth to be involved in identifying whether targeting occured, but the penalty is still inappropriate.
How would you change the rule (or is it good as is)?
September 24th, 2016 at 8:15 PM ^
If you don' t like this targeting rule, let's hope the incidence of concussions and head injuries go down in frequency. If not, the NCAA will come up with an additional penalty about something else to further lower the risk of concussions. Moreover, there is serious consideration being giving to eliminating kickoffs, given the risk of injuries of any kind during the play.
September 24th, 2016 at 8:13 PM ^
So here's a reprint of the rule straight from the rulebook:
Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3) No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.
Targeting and Initiating Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player (Rule 9-1-4) No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, fist, elbow or shoulder. When in question, it is a foul. (Rule 2-27-14) Note: Beginning in 2013, ejection from the game is a part of the penalty for violation of both Rule 9-1-3 and Rule 9-1-4.
So "targeting" as a verb (deliberately separated in the rule from initiating) implies a deliberate take aim (with "initiating" representing launching/hitting) at the head/neck area. Intent definitely matters. How going for the ball translates into intent to target a head area is beyond me.
Anyway, in situations like that, would rather see a soccer-like system employed:
Yellow, if at all, if it's on the margins and intent isn't clear. Player stays on the field, maybe a second yellow in the same game gets you tossed.
Red if the player went headhunting. That's usually pretty clear-- the crouch, the launch, the hit. Player gets ejected immediately.
I thought it was a bullshit call today.
September 24th, 2016 at 10:46 PM ^
My thoughts on the call today aside, you bolded the and but completely ignored the when in question, it is a foul. In the majority of calls that simply removes intent from the equation since intent is almost always questionable.
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September 24th, 2016 at 9:35 PM ^
if in the USC/UCLA game (or for that matter, our game) if the intent is going for the head or going for the ball. Personal foul is a lot easier call to make.
September 24th, 2016 at 9:37 PM ^
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September 24th, 2016 at 10:12 PM ^
I would like to hear their explanation. If I'm the PAC-12 commissioner, heads would roll.
September 24th, 2016 at 10:36 PM ^
Does he get called and ejected if he makes the pick?
September 25th, 2016 at 1:24 AM ^
The call was obvious and correct. It's the rule that's bad.
I saw a great quote from a high school ref -- something he learned in his training. Someone asked what to do about bad rules. The instructor said, if there's a bad rule, enforce it, and it will be changed.
PSU fans were correct to be upset about this. This is strange and refreshing, because PSU fans are incorrect regarding almost everything else in their lives.
BTW: It wasn't 100% obvious on the replay I saw, but I thought their kicker could have been ejecting for targeting on their final kickoff. He went high on Lewis, but I wasn't certain it fell within the rule.
September 25th, 2016 at 1:43 AM ^
September 25th, 2016 at 8:09 AM ^
If you're using the transitive verb "targeting", then you're saying that intent matters. The penalty isn't called "helmet-to-helmet contact", or "hitting the head"; it's called targeting. This simple fact seems lost on the NCAA, which is astonishing because they're the ones who made up and enforce the stupid rule.
I'm all for protecting players, especially their heads. But intent has to matter, because the objective of the rule is to change voluntary behavior--i.e., intent. Otherwise we end up with stupid calls like the one yesterday and Joe Bolden getting blocked into a targeting ejection.
September 25th, 2016 at 5:45 PM ^