Some Men's Basketball Updates/Tidbits

Submitted by UMClassOf2018 on

Last night John Beilein made an appearance at the Maize Rage meeting, along with Derrick Walton and Zak Irvin. While there, he spoke to us and answered some questions that revealed some pretty interesting tidbits that may not have been talked about much yet. Some of the highlights of what he said:

 

---DJ Wilson is up 35 pounds. Not sure if that was from when he go here or just over the summer, but it's impressive either way.

---Irvin should return from his back surgery soon, and when he does, it will be the first time their "Core Four" of Irvin, Walton, Caris, and Spike will have all been healthy at the same time since Walton got hurt against Villanova.

---In terms of rotations, he doesn't really expect to expand past playing nine guys even though they have more depth this year. He likes eight man rotations, but because of the depth, will add a ninth spot.

---He said he likes to play guys like Irvin and Walton 30-35 minutes a game to keep them in their rhythm (he only mentioned them as they were sitting right there; I assume that applies to Caris as well, with Spike not far behind). Other than that, he expects the other guys to just fill in minutes where they are available. Based on this, my conjecture for the rotation would be Walton, Irvin, Caris, Spike, Doyle, Dawkins, DJ, Donnal, and one of MAAR or Chatman.

---One guy who's missing? Moritz Wagner. Beilein said he expects him to be really good "one day". Right now he said he's a bit awkward and gets banged around a bunch because he had never lifted weights before in Germany. However, he's up to 228 pounds (up from 210 or 215 when he got to AA, I can't remember which one), and Beilein expects him to be up around 245 soon. Didn't say, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a redshirt coming for Wagner.

---Another guy who's missing: Duncan Robinson. I would expect him to work his way into the rotation at some point, but now Beilein sounded as if that wouldn't happen right away. He said Duncan's shooting numbers in practice compare to Nik Stauskas', but that he is a little tenative and "we're trying to get him to stop asking for permission to shoot." Sounds like once he gains some confidence, he'll be key off the bench.

---He also talked about Austin Hatch and how important he is to the team. He said he works out with the team 2-3 times a week to keep his body in shape, and his role is now doing some things that players/coaches don't have as much time to do (i.e. visits to Mott). He also said he views Austin as another son of his, which was pretty cool.

---Last thing, has nothing to do with the players themselves, but Beilein said he wants to totally revamp player introductions and do something different. He hates the intro videos and how it takes everyone's attention away from the court and up to the video board. This year, he wants to do something involving the students making noise and being pumped up to introduce players, but we're not sure what that would be, and then having a different way to actually call out the players' names.

Mr. Yost

October 13th, 2015 at 3:14 PM ^

I was having a terribly tough time with my depth charts!

Especially with the hype that Dawkins has taken the "Beilein leap" and is poised to be a breakout player and star in the B1G.

Here we go...obviously there is a significant +/- on a game-by-game basis based on who we're playing and who's playing well.

This also assumes EVERYONE is healthy.

PG: Walton (20) / Albrecht (20)
SG: LeVert (30) / Walton (10) / MAAR (10)
SF: Dawkins (25) /  Irvin (10) / LeVert (5)
F: Irvin (25) / Chatman (15)
C: Doyle (22) / Wilson (13) / Donnal (5)

  1. LeVert (35)
  2. Irvin (35)
  3. Walton (30)
  4. Dawkins (25)
  5. Doyle (22)
  6. Albrecht (20)
  7. Chatman (15)
  8. Wilson (13)
  9. MAAR (10)
  10. Donnal (5)

...that's a 9-man rotation with Donnal getting spot minutes before TV timeouts and whatnot (generally you need to average more than 5mpg to be in the "rotation"). This is a lot easier to do without Robinson and Wagner. However, I don't think Robinson is just out of the rotation at all. I just don't know who's minutes he's taking. I suppose you can steal 5 from Chatman/Donnal and then 5 more from MAAR (or MAAR could redshirt this year). If MAAR redshirts then you just slide Robinson in with his 10mpg.

Flip Walton/Albrecht and Dawkins/Irvin however you like in terms of position...the point is the minutes, not the position in this offense.

Last comment - if the hype on Dawkins is real...that takes the sting out of losing that kid to Cal. Because if Dawkins is playing like a top 5 recruit in the country...we're instantly a legit Final Four contender. Not saying we can't make it if he isn't...this is Beilein. But Dawkins is the x-factor if he's the real deal.

Mr Miggle

October 13th, 2015 at 3:28 PM ^

That highlights just how hard it is to find a place for MAAR in the rotation.

I don't see Irvin averaging 35 minutes either. He's coming off back surgery, but I don't think he'd play that much even if completely healthy.

MGlobules

October 13th, 2015 at 2:27 PM ^

to regular readers of UMHoops. But the note about Duncan Robinson is, and is also disappointing.

Most close onlookers don't think Donnal sees the floor much, so unless this is straight from Beilein's mouth. . . Always want to see every player succeed, but think that Wilson may be the second big in.

Rupertus

October 13th, 2015 at 2:46 PM ^

Sounds like the annual Maize Rage meeting has improved in the last decade. I remember going to one where Brent Petway and K'len Morris were the players who came, and I don't think Tommy even showed up.

True Blue Grit

October 13th, 2015 at 2:46 PM ^

I think a redshirt is a high likelihood at this point.  I think Robinson's minutes are going to be pretty limited due to sheer numbers of guys ahead of him with playing experience.  Hopefully, he will keep working at it and be a breakout player later in the season. 

TheBlueAbides

October 13th, 2015 at 3:25 PM ^

I remember hearing beilein say he has never showed the team videos of hatch playing before his accident to show them how good he really was. I wonder if he ever did

Coldwater

October 13th, 2015 at 3:50 PM ^

Come on Robinson, there's nothing worse than a good shooter who's afraid to shoot. You weren't brought here to play smothering defense, rebound, or throw down monster dunks. Now start shooting godamit