The Snowflake Thread: Offense
November 16th, 2013 at 9:05 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 9:10 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 9:11 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 10:01 PM ^
No shit, sherlock! We already knew that. Not every game is going to be a thing of beauty.
Just enjoy the win. Geez.
November 16th, 2013 at 10:21 PM ^
November 17th, 2013 at 12:15 AM ^
November 17th, 2013 at 12:16 AM ^
Keep in mind what our team is right now, not what we all wish they were. If you judge wins based on whether the team performs as a BIG-championship level team, you are probably going to be disappointed in every game for the rest of the year, win or lose. After the last two weeks, it's apparent that's not what we are this year, so enjoy the wins we get. It sure beats what we've experienced the last two weeks.
November 16th, 2013 at 9:02 PM ^
i see people supporting Gardner and i sit here wondering if we watched the same game. Gardner has been terrible all season with exception to what he did against that amazing Indiana defense. This game was terrible, Ive really lost a lot of trust in Hoke. We got lucky as hell. We were practicly giving NW the game and we still squeaked by. Gardner is a good kid but im sorry hes a terrible quarterback. Anyone who cant see that doesnt know much about football in my opinion. " If he only had proper coaching bla bla bla " . Its not about coaching anymore, the kid makes terrible in game decisions.
November 16th, 2013 at 9:16 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 9:43 PM ^
Gardner is a smart kid, hell he is a warrior. To see him go out there week after week and take a beating from teams full of lesser (sure recruiting ratings are perfect) talent like he has, is a testimony to his character. But his gosh dang f-ing O-coordinator makes life so hard on him it is unbelievable. This win speaks to the character of this team's players. My greatest fear is that this miracle win somehow takes that focus off of that dope Borges. Desmond is still right.
November 16th, 2013 at 9:03 PM ^
sorry about the double post i dont know how that happened
November 16th, 2013 at 9:16 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 9:34 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 9:35 PM ^
nice to finally see Green and Smith get more than 3 carries, certainly makes somewhat of a difference when you can run the ball decently. I cannot believe the redzone playcalling still...granted the weather looked awful but how come we don't throw a fade to Devin Funchess? Is that not in the playbook? I would have liked to see a couple screens early on. I really think Schofield played his worst game in sometime, for the life of me, I don't understand why they haven't tried him at guard and Mags at RT. Schofield has seemingly regressed the last 2 years, his best season was as a guard, you'd think with our troubles in the middle, he would have been given a chance again. I still have mixed feelings on Hoke, just don't understand why he can't put on a headset, just appears to be a fan on the sidelines. Needless to say, sometimes you just have to take a win no matter how ugly it is, we needed this win BADLY and I'll say that next week is just as important...to get 8 wins out of this regular season would be a miracle. ugghhhh, that dame PSU game.
November 16th, 2013 at 9:38 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 9:48 PM ^
I would say the number of missed throws and drops was equal. These guys need to help each other out. BUT FOR SURE, they all need to be on top of their games to overcome the sheer idiocy of borges. Is anyone buying play action on third and long from a team that had negative yards rushing for the last two weeks in a row? Borges is incompetent, and I hope this miracle win does not take the focus off what a bitch he has become for every D-coordinator M plays!
November 17th, 2013 at 8:59 AM ^
i'm not one to say "your comment is stupid", but your comment is stupid.
November 16th, 2013 at 9:46 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 9:51 PM ^
defense is terrible, last week was the game that should get borges fired, horrible play calling. state's defense didn't look real dominant, don't forget, Nebraska turned the ball over a million times. ohio is going to kick states ass all over the field.
November 16th, 2013 at 9:47 PM ^
Give Gardner credit for being a warrior!
Need yo get Morris some reps early nex season & have Gardner at W/R when we do. Gardner is bad ass running in open space. Same thing we should have been doing w Denard
Some nice RB plays also, Green is a beast when he gets a full head of steam!
November 16th, 2013 at 9:54 PM ^
Seriously, who would trade him for Gardner?nobody. Its the dang coaching. This is the whole point. Coaching either multiplies or divides talent. Guess what ours does!
November 16th, 2013 at 9:57 PM ^
Who would trade Gardner for Cook? Nobody. It is the coaching. Coaching either multiplies or divides talent. Guess what ours does. Borges to cost us recruit going forward. In addition to the games.
November 16th, 2013 at 9:58 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 9:59 PM ^
1. What did Desmond say?
2. Is Fitz hurt or just on the bench?
Thank baby Jeebus that Green and Smith were in there, putting in work.
November 16th, 2013 at 10:13 PM ^
Give ole boy Butt some credit too. Nice one handed snag!
November 16th, 2013 at 10:16 PM ^
Thoughts:
Young backs showed a lot of heart, and looked good.
Borges was his awful self.
Gardner should have thrown about 5 picks if NW could have caught the damn ball
November 16th, 2013 at 10:20 PM ^
The one ball NW dropped. Gardner threw ir right to the LB that was 10 yards in the flat. I didnt even see a Mich guy around.? Wtf was that?...lol
November 16th, 2013 at 10:29 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 10:51 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 10:53 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:01 PM ^
November 16th, 2013 at 11:04 PM ^
None of this changes my opinion on Borges and Funk, but if we can get anything remotely resembling an an offensive line, both of those guys could form a great 1-2 punch.
Sadly, though, I think Fitz's time here is done. While he obviously hasn't received any help from his O-Line this season, it looks like Hoke is already starting to look to next year and getting Green and Smith ready to take over. Can't say that I blame him. Those guys are our future, so we need to get them ready now.
November 17th, 2013 at 12:54 AM ^
Does anybody else think that it wouldn't be so bad of an idea give our 6'5 athletic TE a chance to make a play in the endzone when being single-covered a good idea? Cuz I sure do. NW played Funchess that way on 2 separate trips to the redzone, btw. The one jumpball Gardner did throw down there was that overthrow to Gallon.
That deep pass to Chesson late probably could've been a TD if it was thrown better, he had a step on the DB. He was supposed to be the speedy WR to blow the top off the secondary. He should avg one of those a game, why the f**k not? If anything, just to keep the D honest. Last time we threw it deep to him he made a great play on the ball @ MSU. All I ask is for us to put our talent in position to thrive at their strengths, that's all. If they don't succeed, fine, but give them a chance.
November 17th, 2013 at 7:53 AM ^
November 17th, 2013 at 1:05 AM ^
Some of you guys are absolute miserable fucks. I just got done watching on tape delay and came here expecting a positive atmosphere to celebrate with. Nope, still the same doom and gloom bitchfest. Geez people, we won an incredibly exciting game, just enjoy it for 2 seconds and continue with the whining tomorrow.
November 17th, 2013 at 9:01 AM ^
are you seriously surprised?
the fan base was unhappy even when we were really good; after barely scoring 9 pts in regulation, you were expecting unbridled joy?
November 17th, 2013 at 8:34 AM ^
I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel (no, it's not a train). Green and Smith are looking decent behind an admittedly mediocre line. Any it's perfectly reasonable to believe both the line and our young backs will improve as they mature.
Long term, Morris is the QB solution and he has a chance to be a really good one. Gardner is simply too inconsistent.
November 17th, 2013 at 11:27 AM ^
I hate to admit it, b/c I love the way he carries himself & what he stands for...but yeah, Devin Gardner's pocket-presence has completely gone to shit, its really sad to see. Short term, I hope the win can help boost his confidence a lil, give him something to build on.
But next season, it might be wise to have a short leach on him similar to what MSU did w/ Maxwell. The move to Cook single-handedly saved their season. MSU learned that just b/c one QB is a SR & has more experience, doesn't make him the best option.
Similar situation too, in a sense that MSU had a lot of other issues going on that gave MSU apoligists in Maxwell's camp a chance to absolve Maxwell of some blame (they had the same complaints w/ playcalling last year, among other things). Hopefully Hoke will be as proactive as Dantonio was last off season in trying to correct their offensive issues.