Rumors of Harbaugh 3 year extension
December 5th, 2020 at 5:54 PM ^
I think it’s a terrible move, but if it’s done it’s done. Rally around the team and get some new coordinators. Gattis has to go too, before Brown even
December 5th, 2020 at 5:58 PM ^
Nah. I’ll support the team from the confines of my home. Not giving the AD a penny for football.
Michigan’s football program deserves to be in purgatory with its institutional arrogance. I hope Warde and the old “Bo Schembechler” slappies enjoy the empty stadium seats.
I’ll gladly support the other teams that actually do shit to earn our fanbase’s attention
December 5th, 2020 at 6:13 PM ^
Goodness I couldn’t of said it better myself.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:14 PM ^
If true, there is a less than zero % chance we play OSU next week. There is no way that Warde and JH announce an extension after having 100 put on the team by OSU. The only way to avoid that is to cancel.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:26 PM ^
Ugh could you imagine if we announce an extension on Monday or Tuesday, then get reamed like 68-10 by Ohio State? Would be very on brand for this program
December 6th, 2020 at 1:01 PM ^
How about getting all the Alabama players to suit up in Michigan uniforms and go up there and play the bucknuts. That would be a hell of a game and we would be competive.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:16 PM ^
Stadium will still be full.
Don’t support it. Michigan doesn’t give a fuck if you do or not.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:21 PM ^
And that’s the problem. Why change when the money rolls in. That’s the Michigan difference
December 5th, 2020 at 8:04 PM ^
Exactly right. Win 8.5 games a year, have a good graduation rate, stay out of jail. Do those things and the university higher ups are happy
December 5th, 2020 at 11:56 PM ^
Moving forward with harbaugh...I'm not seeing a 8 win season again,but I get your point!
December 6th, 2020 at 8:08 AM ^
Playing his third string qb with all new OL and bad D.... but his record suggests 8+ wins next year.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:32 AM ^
Dear God! Michigan football has become the Chicago Cubs circa 1908 - 2015. Lovable losers who fill the stadium anyway.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:48 PM ^
They may announce 100k+ but it will not be full. Stadium attendance even in good years at non rivalry games is down. The general population is much more likely to watch games at home nowadays. Throw in increased virtual learning, covid, cost, and now more Harbaugh?
December 5th, 2020 at 6:58 PM ^
Full of OSU fans.
December 6th, 2020 at 1:19 AM ^
I was at the game in 2017. After the loss when the M fans had cleared out we could see all the OSU fans remaining to sing their alma mater. I was amazed (but not terribly surprised) to see at least 25% (quite possibly more) of seats filled with red all over the stadium in every section except the student section. In all my years I had never seen so many fans from the opposing team in M stadium, ever.
If the Harbaugh trend is allowed to continue, The Game might turn into a home game for OSU every year. The hillbillies will just have to travel a little further to see it.
That's the future we're looking at. Many M season ticket holders will sell their tickets for the 'big' games to fans of the opponent to subsidize the season tickets. For me, my wife and I live in the area and we made an effort to attend at least 1 home game every year, usually 2 or more. Last year, I decided I wasn't going to buy another ticket and spend a whole day on M football until I saw something on the field to make it worth my while. I will stick to that, and I've talked to plenty of others who feel the same way.
Maybe when there's another mini-scandal of tickets being given away with Cokes something will change. I can say the trend on Stubhub was decreasing prices. In 2018 I bought some dirt-cheap tickets for great seats. That doesn't bode well.
December 6th, 2020 at 4:15 AM ^
Most of the OSU fans at the game of late have actually started buying season tickets. So, it's not UM fans selling seats to their heated rivals, it OSU buying season tickets, and selling all games but OSU every other year.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:01 PM ^
I wouldn’t take the bet that the stadium will be full. In Hoke’s last year people got tired of a mediocre product and attendance dropped. Add that to a year of fans being away and the absurd ticket prices and you might be very surprised.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:46 PM ^
Even Brady giving away donuts to students couldn't draw in the crowds!
December 5th, 2020 at 9:06 PM ^
But we can buy Block M pretzels for only $10!
December 5th, 2020 at 8:58 PM ^
Except student section will barely be half full. If true, Michigan has officially become the Detroit Lions of college football. Butts in the seats more important than success.
If true I have lost 70% interest in watching Michigan football. Losing out on Matt Campbell may be a death blow to the program. He will be a star, guaranteed.
December 6th, 2020 at 1:06 AM ^
I would of said the same about RR... here we are
December 6th, 2020 at 1:32 AM ^
So we should just succumb to our collective RichRod and Hoke PTSD and just do nothing.
There will never be a coach that is so obvious than Harbaugh seemed to be 6 years ago. There will always be some smudge or lack for someone to criticize, and there is always the possibility it won't work out.
Bo wasn't an obvious hire. Warde will have to earn his stripes finding someone who can take the reigns and bring it back. That's a risk we just have to accept if we want a shot at anything better.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:03 PM ^
But this is michigan and that will literally never happen. And even if we do hire a promising up and comer, the first sign of adversity the local media and fans will run his ass out of town so fast. Same shit we gave all seen before
December 5th, 2020 at 10:05 PM ^
Keep supporting that bullshit. Not me. Harbaugh is a national joke. And no, the stadium won't remain full. But you do you.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:05 PM ^
Keep supporting that bullshit. Not me. Harbaugh is a national joke. And no, the stadium won't remain full. But you do you.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:49 PM ^
Great, so we get seasons 7-10 of "Jim Harbaugh Presents: The Walking Dead". Unfortunately, this show jumped the shark at some point in season four.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:23 AM ^
You know that the Carr disciples are just as bad as the Bo ones right
December 6th, 2020 at 8:34 AM ^
The Cube...who do you want that is so much better? You place all of your ire with Warde.
Please tell me what coach out there is making Michigan better.
Also, tell me, when has Michigan been a truly elite program in the last 50 years? Not one or 2 good seasons like LSU's national championship or Florida this year (or '97 Michigan). ELITE!
We have made this thing up in our heads. Just like Texas where we are truly up there with the best of the best. The Carr/Cooper years have disguised the fact that we were the lower ranked teams a number of times during those wins.
Which I'll gladly take now, but my point stands...because that's how we act, when have we been ELITE? People want to compare us against elite, show me when we've been there.
The fact is, Bama and Clemson have been in what 5 of 6 national championship games? OSU and Oklahoma right behind them and Georgia under Smart right there as well. ND would close out the list.
Literally everyone else, is everyone else. Even LSU with their one incredible year. Did you watch the game last night? OSU does the same thing to us.
There are 3 program changing elite coaches and none of them are coming to Michigan. Which is no different than Texas, PSU, Nebraksa, Tennessee, FSU...and not far from USC.
Just like (some) pro sports, more and more top prospects are going to play together. Top teams are getting stronger.
This year is an abomination, no question. No excuses...I don't want to hear it. But some of you have the bar at an unrealistic level.
The bar needs to be get to OSU with a shot at the B1G East on the line, get to a Citrus Bowl (where we were JUST LAST YEAR) or a NY6 Bowl (where we were not long along ago). Try to finish in the top 10.
I hate admitting that, I'm from Ann Arbor. I'm all about HAIL. And Leaders and Best. Most wins. Big House.
...but those are just facades to make us feel like we're elite when, by today's comparison, we haven't been since any of us were alive.
Rather than leaders and the best...we need to shoot for leaders of the rest. THEN worry about sliding into that ND/UGA/Oklahoma level.
So, TL;DR...what coach out there do we know is better than Harbaugh?
December 6th, 2020 at 8:54 AM ^
Expecting to beat Mel Tucker year 1 MSU is not unrealistic. Expecting to win 1 out of 4 or 5 against OSU is not unrealistic (look at Auburn). Expecting a single visit to Indy when we hired the supposed top 5 coach in ALL of football is not unrealistic.
The program advertises itself as the winningest program of all time (dubious at best and will be surpassed soon). THE PROGRAM sells the fan base “elite” level pricing and expectations and you blame us for getting mad/apathetic when the team falls flat with leaders who just don’t give a shit about actual results?
I expect a program to take risks to get better.
Michigan is the equivalent of Arsenal rotting away with complacency and talking about the 2004 Invincibles and Arsene Wenger (Lloyd and Bo) while poopooing Chelsea who hire and fire managers at a whim bc they expect to win the Premier League (they have 5x since Arsenal has) and they even won a Champions League! Arsenal has never won that.
That’s where we are.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:07 PM ^
I think there is this assumption by people like you that this season is a complete aberration and Harbaugh will get back to 9-10 win seasons. Isn't it possible that Harbaugh has peaked and he won't return to that level, at least not regularly?
And stop with the "who can we get who is better?" nonsense. This stuff is insulting and assumes the average football fan is knowledgeable enough of coaching talent to head a coaching search for a major program. I heard a fan call on the radio the other day say the Lions have to get Rex Ryan as head coach, for crying out loud.
I don't know, but I would think someone like Matt Campbell who has done a good job at a program like Iowa State with no national brand and very few top tier recruits anywhere near that campus might have a better shot at getting better results than Harbaugh. But to assume because the average fan can't spit out a bunch of impressive names who would come here means you can't find someone better is nonsense and insulting to people who do this stuff for a living. Hire a search firm that identifies and vets candidates, interview the best candidates who are interested, and pick the best one.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:02 PM ^
If true, I wonder if Warde forced Harbaugh to swallow a pay cut.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:03 PM ^
That and lowering the buyout are the only ways this doesn’t embarrass the fuck out of the program on a national scale.
This recruiting class is going to hemorrhage regardless if Harbaugh stays. The 2nd best recruit is defecting to Alabama already. Then Hood is probably decommitting too. This class will be lucky to finish in the top 15.
There’s at least 1 more L with the crossover game on the schedule not accounting for the OSU beat down if it happens.
Then we all know the bowl game will be an L. Tire fire.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:11 PM ^
Then Hood? Is this credible information or your personal gut feeling?
December 5th, 2020 at 6:37 PM ^
There's reporting that Hood was likely to leave the class early on the season, easy to imagine that feeling is even stronger, for Miami.
Branden Jennings is another possible decommit.
December 6th, 2020 at 10:45 AM ^
Anthony already said he's signing on December 16th, Jennings has said he's staying with the class. Only other person that would flip is Hood. Worthy still may likely stick around, unclear why he would though lol.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:29 PM ^
Bowl game! Ha ha, not a chance. The buyout should be eliminated.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:17 PM ^
They could get invited to a bowl based solely on their name (no record requirements this year). On one hand this would be good (team needs more practices). On the other hand, if major staff turnover, what is point - not to mention embarrassment.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:31 PM ^
That and lowering the buyout are the only ways this doesn’t embarrass the fuck out of the program on a national scale.
Id say we are already there. I agree it would be a way to save face (slightly). You can put me in the camp of people that doesn’t think Manuel has the balls to force him to take a paycut tho. Surprise me Warde. This is just such a bad move though. I just don’t understand how you can get paid ~$40 million, never be in the conference title game, never beat OSU, put this 2020 product on the field, then get gifted an extra 3 years and more millions? Dumbfounded.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:41 PM ^
The only way that stadium is “full” is bringing back the buy a Coke get a ticket.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:45 PM ^
Wrong but see you on the 16th when only 2 or 3 don’t sign with Michigan. Look forward to your “they’ll transfer before the season starts” comment. Jackass.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:52 PM ^
2-3 decommits would be pretty significant, especially if they don’t get Edwards.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:42 PM ^
You know what’s more embarrassing.. going on a coaching search with multiple coaches turning your program down..That’s how we ended up with RR and Brady Hoke. Until Michigan is willing to to whatever it takes to win, this is where we are going to be. No coach will come here with the administration dictating the type of players should be admitted. Root for Harbaugh and the team. The majority of Alum will still support the program regardless, Michigan couldn’t care less about regular non-donating fans. I have been telling people that Michigan was not going to fire Harbaugh. Everything boils down to risk. Harbaugh runs a clean program, kids graduate and he puts a fair share of players in the NFL. He is going to usually get you 8-10 wins every season.
December 5th, 2020 at 11:52 PM ^
People keep throwing around the "8-10 wins" number. I believe the longer we stick with Harbaugh the more this team trends closer to the 8 wins per year number...or 6 or 7. 10 wins happened when we had a more vibrant version of JH with Hoke's recruits. Now that we are living off the fat of the University of Michigan land and whatever magic the winged helmet conjures, we are staring at perennial 3rd or 4th place in the B1G East with annual sweaty palm games to look forward to against Maryland and Rutgers.
December 6th, 2020 at 10:47 AM ^
I have a feeling that you are correct about this. I think we have already seen Harbaugh's best years at Michigan. I would like to be wrong, but it seems like 6 - 9 wins per season is more likely than 8 - 10 wins going forward. Contract extension for Harbaugh depresses me.
December 6th, 2020 at 6:28 AM ^
Hoke yes, but RichRod was a hot commodity whether he was choice one or not.
December 6th, 2020 at 9:03 AM ^
Or hopefully start swallowing the Provigil again
December 5th, 2020 at 6:58 PM ^
Nothing we can do about. I will have some hope if he makes some changes and hires new coordinators and a few other position coaches. If he doesn’t make major changes though I will be very disappointed
December 5th, 2020 at 7:41 PM ^
Gattis before Brown????????????? Have you people learned NOTHING?
We know for sure what Brown can do. Gattis could still turn it around even if unlikely.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:54 PM ^
Brown has a long track record of being a successful DC (this year and a couple OSU games excluded.) Gattis was Co-OC for all of one whole season before being anointed by Harbaugh.
December 6th, 2020 at 10:01 AM ^
Gattis is not who you think he is...we were conned