Rahm tests positive again???
Apparently he got a negative test twice after testing positive at the Memorial, got vaccinated and gets another positive? Is this just an anomaly? I've not heard of anybody getting covid or that it was possible 2 times in a month. It took me 6 weeks to get a negative test so I could return to work. I just don't understand how he wouldn't have a boatload of antibodies between being infected and also having the vaccine.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/olympics/2021/07/24/bryson-dechambeau-tests-positive-covid-out-olympics/8084914002/
That's bait?
In HKG this winter I tested positive with covid two months after having the infection with a positive anti body test...
Did you have multiple negative tests in between?
7 nasal and throat
Was wondering the same thing. Is there a 2nd test at Olympics to fully (?) eliminate the possibility of a false positive?
Considering a trip to Thailand. Only 20 of 10000 vaccinated visitors have tested positive. The pre-travel routine also includes covid testing prior to travel.
I get that the vaccines aren’t 100% but neither are the tests. Scary to think a false positive could land you in quarantine. Or in this case DQ from Olympics and presumably quarantined as well.
Would like to see a more complete news report that explains what happens next. Quarantine? 2nd test?
Same when he was DQd for positive test on tour. Never heard whether he got a “2nd opinion”.
Id be surprised if they didn’t follow the rapid then PCR protocol. Rapids are a little funky so positives are usually followed with PCR.
When I went to Antigua a couple months ago they wouldn't allow rapid tests, only PCR.
New research out of Israel found that the Pfizer vaccine was only 39% effective at preventing infections from the Delta variant, so breakthrough infections might be more common than we've previously thought, especially after a few months.
On the plus side, they found that it was very good (88%) at reducing hospitalization.
Heard an infectious diseases specialist on a news channel blasting the CDC both for not calling for masking again indoors in the face of Delta, but even more so for not doing anything apparently to track breakthroughs.
Delta is infecting the vaccinated (at a far lower rate than non, and far less severely obviously) but if they don't even track it, how will they know how much less often & how much less severely, and which vax are most/ least effective against it?!
Should be noted that UK’s numbers are going down even with Delta being widespread. Death and hospitalization rates haven’t risen significantly during this time.
Good thing is these vaccines can be adjusted relatively quickly to these new variants.
COVID is going to be with us from here on out. New normal.
I wonder if he really got vaccinated? But even if he didn't, how in the hell would he test positive, 2 times in 4 weeks, and to my knowledge (everything I've read) he hasn't shown any symptoms. Weird disease ?. I wonder if I've had it? I've been tested twice, and not because of symptoms, but 1 for work, and the other for a colonoscopy. I've been vaccinated also.
If he’s actually positive and isn’t showing symptoms, he definitely got vaccinated. The delta variant is no joke, but I’m inclined to think his first test was a false positive.
So what were all those positive tests with no symptoms before vaccinations? I guess you haven't heard of asymptomatic. It didn't say what variant he was positive for, just that he tested positive.
Possibly got infected with a different variant
Few possible scenarios.
He caught two different variants. Which is possible, though unlikely.
He had a false positive somewhere.
The antibodies from his first case lingered in his system. I know someone who kept testing positive for 6 weeks.
He lied about being vaccinated. A significant number of people do.
More probably scenario-the PCR tests are unreliable and subject to fluctuation and false positives depending on the levels used, which vary.
I do remember at The Memorial he received a confirmation test after his initial positive and that was also confirmed positive. That's why they waited until after his round to tell him. He also was able to produce 2 consecutive days of negative tests after that, which allowed him to stop his 10 day isolation and have more prep time for the U.S. Open.
I'm not sure what the protocols are for The Olympics, but we need to remember they're in Tokyo, which is under a state of emergency now for COVID. There may very well be stricter protocols tha in the United States.
He lost what? $1.8 million at the Memorial because of his positive test? I'm kinda doubting he lied about being vaccinated.
Not sure what one thing has to do with the other. He claims he was vaccinated before the Memorial, but if that was true, he wouldn't have been tested to begin with, so I'm inclined to believe he isn't telling the truth.
My understanding is that he got vaccinated only after he was advised that he had been exposed and was therefore subject to more frequent testing and then within a week after his vaccination, he tested positive. So it was more of a "oh shit, I've been exposed, I'd better get vaccinated."
Rahm said at The Memorial that he had received his 1st shot just before the tournament. He did not claim to be fully vaccinated.
How he's testing positive again if he did indeed get his 2nd shot could mean this one is Delta & the 1st positive wasn't?
This is why testing positive should not disqualify you. Its really quite insane. To participate you should have to be vaccinated, and that’s it. Like with any vaccine, even after getting the shot you can still carry the virus. You can still get infected, just that your symptoms are mild/nonexistent because you have the immune response. Why we are testing a vaccinated person is beyond me. This type of response to a positive test is a major overreaction.
The bigger picture is that there doesn’t seem to be a plan for how we deal with this going forward. With the presence of the vaccine we need to be shifting our response because it’s never going away. Covid is likely to become another seasonal virus. Regardless of whether it does, it’s certainly never going away completely. So the question becomes what do we do about that? We can’t just shut it all down time and again (see Australia’s ludicrous response when, quite literally, one death occurred and the entire country shutdown and restricted all travel). vaccine access is widespread. At some point we need to treat it like anything else. You can choose to get the vaccine or not, but life is going back to normal and if you don’t get it, that’s a personal choice and it’s on you if you don’t want to get it.
Agree with all of this and a good post.
I am a little worried that some people are “losing the plot” here. Vaccines work for reducing sickness and hospitalizations. Unless they stop doing that at a massive scale (and there is NO real evidence this is happening), we are in fairly good shape.
Full stop.
Just so you know Nitt - and I'm sure I'm not alone in this - I never listen to anything anyone says who uses the expression "Full Stop"
Jus Sayin ?♂️
Fair enough, I understand your sentiment.
Partial stop.
I would agree with you if the Olympics were held in the United States. But Japan is literally under a state of emergency for another month due to the proliferation of COVID in the country. Different country, different rules for the athletes. Plus their are people from the entire world there.
And as far as what happens going forward, I believe you make a good point with the potential seasonality of COVID. It's possible the COVID vaccine will eventually be similar to the flu vaccine, a yearly shot you have a choice to get or not. But since we're still in the infancy of this virus outbreak, I think it may be different from country to country for awhile.
? % correct---The host country absolutely has the right to have their say in the matter, much more so than us or any other country and our Olympic committees.
If Japan wishes to do at any point during the Olympics, they can go as far as simply shutting down the whole darn thing.
Japan has 23% of population vaccinated. He’s gong to their country—thus he is subject to international rules. It is about protecting other people, and vaccinated people who test positive can still carry the disease and spread it (even if it is less likely), even asymptomatically. Delta is twice as contagious as Alpha.
How in the fuck is quarantining sick people still a debate 16 months later? How is it not understood that vaccinated people can still spread it to incl vaccinated people? How is it that individualism and “freedom” is still the main concern over social spread and being a continued link in the chain for extending pandemic through variants?
Why is it a surprise that a guy who travels internationally more in two months than most do in a lifetime may actually be ripe for catching variants?
Lamenting lockdowns in other countries is peak American privilege. This country never locked down completely, spread the disease, and now the same half that caused massive cases and deaths talks shit about the vaccine that gives them the privileges over every other country, while half of the half who took the vaccination think that means the pandemic is over and that restrictions should be over.
I could agree with this if more people got vaccinated. The fewer that get vaccinated, the more variants are going to pop up and the less effective future vaccines will be (I'm assuming a yearly or similar vax program if this thing hangs around, kind of like the flu vaccine). I think there's still a lot they don't know about this virus, and that's fine, but we do know vaccines are effective at reducing illness and severity of illness. I could go with the "live with it" scenario if I felt people understood if they want to live, they need to get the vaccine.
If there's a new board post every time someone tests positive this board is going to turn into a shit show. Please stop.
When my dad had COVID about 2 months ago, the nurse from the Washtenaw County Health told him that tests are not effective up to 9 months after coming down with it because even after recovering and not being contagious you can still turn a false positive.
Vaccines and therapeutics do not prevent anyone from testing positive.
In a percentage of patients (Not 100%) they can contribute to the prevention of the pathogen from causing disease, not positive test results.
If a "vaccinated" individual is exposed to the pathogen, they may not even know it, have mild or no symptoms depending on their level of exposure, level of immune response, both natural and administered. They may test positive after such an exposure. The duration of their positivity is variable and not currently predictable.
We knew over 1 year ago that greater than 30% of people were not susceptible to disease from Covid 19. (Estimates are actually much greater than that, but that's the low end of the range).
That's why we saw many instances on the cruise ships like Diamond Princess where one spouse was sick, and the other never got sick despite quarantine in a 10 X 10 ft or smaller cabin.