Pryor in Gruden Camp

Submitted by Ziff72 on

Looks like Pryor did the Gruden Camp and it will be aired next Thursday.   I think this is a must have the popcorn ready situation.

brose

June 21st, 2011 at 2:13 PM ^

"It looks like cover 2 cuz I see two safeties"

Drew Rosenhaus will make sure his client gets softballs or he is a moron for letting Pryor do this

Beavis

June 21st, 2011 at 2:15 PM ^

I am pretty sure Ryan Mallett was high on cocaine when he talked to Gruden.

At least that's what my insider... err - thoughts based on pure speculation were on the situation.  

samber2009

June 21st, 2011 at 2:15 PM ^

This should be good

Gruden- TPryor, explain this play to me. What happened here?

Pryor- Well I got the play call. So that means if I don't understand it, I'm just gonna run for a TD.  If I do know a couple of the routes, I'll just throw to the guy I see first. I can throw real far too.  It worked more often than not, so why mess with success?!

BRCE

June 21st, 2011 at 2:30 PM ^

Gruden will give him a little tough love but mostly kiss his ass while making frequent use of the word "man." He will also make a self-deprecating crack or two about how he was fired in Tampa Bay.

Gruden's popularity is bewildering to say the least. In one of the pure fantasy threads I saw on an OSU board about him being their next coach, several of them said he's great at developing young QBs. Really? Who has he developed? Rich Gannon and the mediocre Brad Johnson were 30-somethings when they met him. Gruden is a genius at getting people to believe he's something he's not.

The guy reminds me of Mariucci -- a professional shmoozer who comes across as a likeable guy on TV and has successfully whitewashed how fraudulent he was as a coach.

 

Ziff72

June 21st, 2011 at 2:52 PM ^

I could see having mixed feelings about Gruden but "fraudulent" is a little over the top.  He took a band of misfits in Oakland and had them 1 bad call away from the Super Bowl. He goes to Tampa and turns an offense that was brutal under Dungy into something semi decent and won the Super Bowl.  His remaining years in Tampa were spent trying to keep the boat afloat as age and free agency decimated the team Dungy had built up.   While in Tampa he was never given a decent qb to work with but still produced points and made a few playoff appearances. 

I don't think he's Lombardi, but he's one of the better coaches out there.   His gameplan for the Super Bowl alone puts him in the upper half.   He owned the Raiders with pure brilliance.  

He can come off as a little corny and ESPN amps it up, but he's smart and knows how to prepare. 

 

MileHighWolverine

June 21st, 2011 at 4:06 PM ^

Only one issue with what you said: "While in Tampa he was never given a decent qb to work with".  He had Brian Griese in 2005 who led the team to a 5-1 record right before getting his ACL shredded. Brian was a pretty competent QB and their record reflected what Gruden could do when he had something to work with.

bouje13

June 21st, 2011 at 2:52 PM ^

How dare he make the bucs into something. What a scrub. Is he the OMG best coach not coaching? Probably not. But he's not terrible like you make him out to be. Hes definitely at worst a mediocre NFL coach and more probably a good to very good one.

BRCE

June 21st, 2011 at 4:21 PM ^

Actually, he didn't turn the Bucs offense into anything special at all. TB went from 26th in offensive yards in Dungy's last season to 24th in Gruden's first (Super Bowl year). They dropped from 15th in scoring offense to 18th. From 2004-2006, Gruden couldn't crack the top 20 in either category, and in Dungy's second to last season in Tampa (2000), the Bucs actually ranked sixth in scoring offense.

The difference came in that defense (built by Dungy, with the same personel, system and coaches under Gruden) getting on a huge roll in 2002 and playing out of their minds. If you want to credit that to Gruden's leadership, fine. But this image of him as an offensive/quarterback guru is a total farce. The man has blond hair and is personable - he seems to have built have his reputation on that.

MasonBilderberg

June 21st, 2011 at 3:36 PM ^

You're QB grooming take is valid, but the guy is a good coach. He gets trashed for winning with a team that Dungy built, but doesn't get credit for building the Oakland team that he beat in the SB. The same Oakland team that was 1 questionable call from going to the SB the year before.

Tater

June 21st, 2011 at 5:54 PM ^

The Bucs gave up too many draft picks for Gruden: two first round and two second round.  To make things worse, when they won the Super Bowl in his first year, everybody's market value went up.  With a cap and no first or second-round draft picks for two years, this is not a great combination.  The results were predictable: one great year followed by a gradual decline and no replacements coming up through the system.  

Chucky's main problem is that the same obnoxious schtick that makes him popular on TV causes players to turn him off after four or five years.  Since players leave after four or five years in college, Gruden could turn out to be a very good college football coach.  As a pro, though, he needs a place where he can get the job done within five years, because that's as long as he can reasonably expect NFL players to listen to him.

Ask any Bucs fan not related to Tony Dungy: the one Super Bowl victory made the other years worth it.

swamyblue

June 21st, 2011 at 7:03 PM ^

Mooch was a major contributor to Steve Young's development. (Brett Favre as well)

Just say'in.

Interestingly enough Young was "Denarding" back then...Hey Borges!  Got a minute?

Cigarro Cubano

June 21st, 2011 at 2:35 PM ^

With TP now in Gruden's Camp,  Drew Rosenhaus dreams of Pryor being a 1st rounder in the upcoming supplement draft should be solidified. Or at least that is going to be his complaint.

Good luck holding a clipboard or making a nfl roster TP.

 

PinballPete

June 21st, 2011 at 3:00 PM ^

It will likely be an ass-kissing event that plays up his ability to tuck and run (amirite!?!?), evidenced by this gushing quote by Gruden:

"This is a freak of nature," Gruden said. "This guy is really something with the ball in his hands. Terrelle Pryor can run and he can throw and he's a hell of a competitor. You might have to cater your offense, to a degree, towards his strengths, but I think this guy can develop his passing."

 

 

M-Wolverine

June 21st, 2011 at 4:24 PM ^

Pryor was in Gruden's camp for him to get the OSU job; which, that endorsement would be like the kiss of death.

gajensen

June 21st, 2011 at 4:32 PM ^

Gruden: "Tell me how you would manage a drive if there were only two minutes left on the clock".
Pryor: "Well first I would have to decide which car to take..."

GeoTracker

June 21st, 2011 at 7:31 PM ^

1. When did ESPN start hiring Oompa Loompas or Jersey Shore rejects, aka guidos?

2. Why is TP reading off a teleprompter? Seriously? Is it that hard to formulate your own answers to those questions?

Pause the video on one of the wide shots and you'll see TP is offset to the end of the table and I'm willing to be cue cards or a teleprompter is over Gruden's right shoulder out of frame.

animals77

June 21st, 2011 at 8:39 PM ^

Is that what a guido is?  I just thought it was someone with muscles.  One of my seventh grade students calls me guido, and when I asked her what it meant, she said "a muscular Italian".  I was kind of surprised considering I am not Italian and she knew that.  Thanks for the info.

wresler120

June 21st, 2011 at 5:45 PM ^

is not NFL QB material. He'll be lucky to ever make it off a practice squad. His only hance is at TE, and I don't see him blocking well enough to play TE.

animals77

June 21st, 2011 at 8:36 PM ^

Why are giving Pryor any publicity?  He basically was the head of the snake's body in ruining the Ohio State program for the next few years, dragging their fan base in this mess, spitting in the face of the program's tradition and helping his coach resign.  I say "helping" because I believe Tressel had a big part in this on his own.  Unlike Newton, the evidence on Pryor is crystal clear, and he even admitted to it because he has no way of dodging all the proof out there.  Yes, he is young and vulnerable, and yes he is talented, but Gruden and ESPN are sending out the wrong message to the younger generation out there who view Pryor as a role-model "You cheat and do wrong you still get publicized".