OT(ish?) COVID vaccine is 90% effective
- Vaccine candidate was found to be more than 90% effective in preventing COVID-19 in participants without evidence of prior SARS-CoV-2 infection in the first interim efficacy analysis
- Analysis evaluated 94 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in trial participants
- Study enrolled 43,538 participants, with 42% having diverse backgrounds, and no serious safety concerns have been observed; Safety and additional efficacy data continue to be collected
- Submission for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) planned for soon after the required safety milestone is achieved, which is currently expected to occur in the third week of November
- Clinical trial to continue through to final analysis at 164 confirmed cases in order to collect further data and characterize the vaccine candidate’s performance against other study endpoints
Yay for good news for a change
November 9th, 2020 at 10:36 AM ^
Not OT: This is where I come for all my covid-related news.
November 9th, 2020 at 12:05 PM ^
And political news too!
November 9th, 2020 at 12:21 PM ^
Curious to see how this lines up w/ Moderna’s mRNA1273 vaccine which supposedly reduces transmission as well.
4 major players right now between Pfizer, Moderna, J/J and Astrozeneca
November 9th, 2020 at 12:22 PM ^
I'd like to come here for my flu-related news as well - but apparently the Flu no longer exists and EVERYTHING is Covid.
November 9th, 2020 at 12:33 PM ^
Can any of those scientists coach football?
November 9th, 2020 at 10:55 PM ^
A slew of positive covids last week and a ton today in my wife's pediatric practice-and positive flu tests have begun as well. For you smartasses here, the medical community is facing one hell of a winter. And if you think this a somehow a hoax or joke you can go straight to hell-nothing cute or humorous about the realities here.
November 10th, 2020 at 2:55 AM ^
I was kind of missing the COVID posts after all the dumb CC posts.
November 10th, 2020 at 4:59 AM ^
No kidding. This board has turned either “all covid or fire Harbaugh “ with just enough politics to piss off the masses.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:37 AM ^
Certainly great news. Hopefully the first glimmer of the light at the end of the tunnel
November 9th, 2020 at 11:21 AM ^
Yes, great news if true. Just have to hope the virus doesn't mutate into something the vaccine won't prevent.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:37 AM ^
Username hopefully does not check out
November 9th, 2020 at 10:57 AM ^
Based on the username, I think he's started something like twenty threads under other accounts since Saturday.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:46 AM ^
Malarkey
November 9th, 2020 at 10:37 AM ^
Just when I thought football season would bring an end to all the Covid posts.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:45 AM ^
Fortunately enough, shitty football results in us looking for good things to talk about.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:37 AM ^
Just beat me to it! Fingers crossed. Need to see the long term efficacy, but hopefully this pans out. I think I read 20 million or so doses initially. Most likely at risk and healthcare population first.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:38 AM ^
this is some good news
November 9th, 2020 at 10:39 AM ^
People with lots of stonks will be making lots of money today
(well, seeing their balance go up...you don't make the money until you cash out I suppose)
November 9th, 2020 at 11:35 AM ^
I cashed out of a few this morning. It was good news to wake up to (I'm on the west coast so I usually wake up as the market opens).
November 9th, 2020 at 10:41 AM ^
6 days after the election.....coincidence? I think not.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:47 AM ^
Yeah. It’s all a conspiracy, right? Deep state. They’ve been announcing data regularly. Drug companies only take one side: profit. Go turn off Alex Jones and sit in a corner.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:52 AM ^
Haha...it is funny. I work for a pretty damn big company and most of you use the products we produce, my CEO is always in DC, and a month before the election he put out an email telling the company we are going back to normal pre-coronavirus operations on 1 December. Lol.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:09 AM ^
Considering your boss will absolutely not have general access to a preliminary vaccine that is still in trials and won't be approved for months, he either is just annoyed by the bottom line with people out of the office OR y'all going to be some unpaid guinea pigs during a "free" flu shot.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:12 AM ^
Well then your CEO is a moron.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:53 AM ^
Pfizer said weeks ago that this was about the time the data would be ready. Election Day was always an artificial target set by politicos. No need for a conspiracy.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:04 AM ^
Ah yes, noted "woke" Pharma companies out to screw the man. And, like, completely out of the blue with the timing, with no notification that they might have delayed results as they followed such as PC-BS such as "safety" and "efficacy".
I was nervous the only crazy conspiracy people I'd see around here were those desperately trying how to remove Jim Harbaugh before the end of the season but I totally forgot that there are a bunch of COVID-19 truthers around here as well.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:11 AM ^
So sick of conspiracy theorists in this country. Offer up some proof or sit down.
Even if the conspiracy is true, if an industry like big pharma (which makes straight bank off of the right wing narrative that restricting prices for drugs made with publicly-funded research would somehow kill innovation) is trying to supposedly hurt you, that must say a lot about how bad you must be.
November 9th, 2020 at 12:04 PM ^
You do know trump cut drug prices right? Big pharma HATES trump. You dont need to be a conspiracy theorist to see they wanted him out and third-way corporate lobby money taking biden in office
November 9th, 2020 at 12:34 PM ^
That claim is "mostly false." But hey, maybe Politifact is just in on the grand conspiracy.
November 9th, 2020 at 12:42 PM ^
https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/07/24/trump-administration-announces-historic-action-lower-drug-prices-americans.html
Lol, try harder. Not one cares about biased "fact checking"
We watched these events unfold in real-time
November 9th, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^
What do I know, maybe there's something to your claim. That being said, the idea that big pharm hates Trump sounds delusional. I'm not surprised his buddies at HHS were willing to spin things in his favor (after all, he appointed them).
November 9th, 2020 at 12:54 PM ^
Ah, and I see from my response that I'm doing the same thing you did: assuming a source is biased since it didn't fit into my worldview. Politics brings out the stupid in everyone. Can we agree on that?
November 9th, 2020 at 12:57 PM ^
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/22/politics/trump-drug-prices-fact-check/index.html
Perhaps you'd prefer cnn. I especially like the part about industry groups fighting back. Hmmmmm
It's being stated false because most of the policy hasn't gone into effect yet
But dont be misled. Big pharma wanted biden. Full stop
November 9th, 2020 at 1:03 PM ^
Fair enough, maybe you're right.
November 9th, 2020 at 2:36 PM ^
Announcing you're going to do something and actually doing it are not the same thing. That's why we're paying for the wall not Mexico.
November 9th, 2020 at 2:45 PM ^
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-lowering-drug-prices-putting-america-first-2/
Um? It was already done
Do try and keep up
November 9th, 2020 at 3:04 PM ^
Right, just like Mexico and the wall.
Surely you can point to a reduced price then? Cite one drug that is now at a lower price.
November 9th, 2020 at 4:14 PM ^
Are you seriously this dense?
Drug companies are fighting this changes because it's good for their bottom line?
And they call us conspiracy theorists
November 9th, 2020 at 5:49 PM ^
You find wanting proof of some rando's claims dense? Does the extremely quick jump to name calling without even bothering to try having a conversation not suggest to you at all that maybe your emotions are clouding your judgement?
What change? There is no actual change as far as I can tell. The same guy who said Mexico was going to pay for the wall said something else that he probably has no intention of doing.
Did you read the article you cited? It talks about a 6% decrease (be still my beating heart) and
"Most of this decline can be attributed to the recent approval of generics, and the biosimilar counterparts that have been on the market."
November 9th, 2020 at 7:42 PM ^
Name calling? Which name did I call you?
Hint: I described you a dense
I will now also describe you sensitive.
You willfully ignored my very next post with citing data
You fly off one some sort of emotional appeal
You've move goalposts after asking for 1 example (which I provided
You contradict yourself in your own post by stating prices went down
You dont understand profit margin by downplaying the significance of a 6% decrease
And you ignore any potential other factors contributing to the decline ( most not all)
Did I miss anything else?
November 9th, 2020 at 9:56 PM ^
I didn't ignore any other factors the article you choose as your A1 piece of evidence did. Your claim was that Trump caused a decrease in drug prices, the article you cited does not support that. It specifically says the drop is due to generics and biosimilars. Further the article you cited as evidence that Trump is responsible for a drop in drug prices states that the drop started prior to Trump's executive order. Why did you pick an article that disproved your claim if this is all so obvious as to make me dense for daring to question?
November 10th, 2020 at 8:43 AM ^
Do you hear yourself? You first claim there was no drop, Then you admit it. That's the very definition of moving the goal posts.
November 10th, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^
And you call me dense? I didn't say there wasn't a drop, I said the article you cited specifically says the drop is not attributed to Trump and it occurred before Trump's EO.
November 9th, 2020 at 4:18 PM ^
https://www.goodrx.com/blog/how-much-does-insulin-cost-compare-brands/
How about insulin?
That's kinda a big one
Let me guess, you still wont be satisfied
November 9th, 2020 at 12:39 PM ^
No. Actually Pharma stock prices (absent vaccine news) were going up today because the likelihood of Medicare being able to use its massive purchasing power as leverage in drug pricing negotiations probably disappeared with the GOP retaining the senate (probably).
Per the claim that POTUS reduced drug prices... no. Here's a Politifact blurb but there are lots of others, use whichever you like.
There is data that could conceivably support the argument that the list prices for some prescription drugs dipped in 2018. But that data doesn’t include many high-priced specialty drugs that drive costs up or the fact that some individual drug prices have increased.
Nationally, spending on drugs has continued to climb, even if that growth has slowed. There is also no evidence to support the argument that Trump himself is responsible for changes in drug pricing.
This claim has an element of truth, but it ignores key facts and context that would give a very different impression. We rate this claim Mostly False.
EDIT: SirJack beat me to it. I got Jacked Up.
November 9th, 2020 at 2:30 PM ^
Deleted because I didn't refresh the page first.
November 9th, 2020 at 11:37 AM ^
It would not surprise me at all if they perhaps delayed announcing things by a week so as not to be affecting the election. That doesn't mean it's another grand deep state conspiracy against the orange baby though
November 10th, 2020 at 2:57 AM ^
I knew someone would post something like this and here I am doing my civil duty to downvote it and laugh at you. They've been talking about a vaccine in late 2020 for months and months.
November 9th, 2020 at 10:42 AM ^
I found this covid-related post to be a refreshing change from the recent rash of shit posts about the current state of Michigan football. I fondly remember a not-too-distant past when we were collectively pining for football-related content, but now....
I hope this vaccine is effective. That would be game-changing news.
I also hope there's a timely antidote that inoculates Michigan's football program from its apparent deep malaise.