I'll remind everyone that I'm originally from Chicago at the start of the thread....
But the wings had a very pretty 4-on-4 goal. Also, chippy game thus far, Hawks need to stay out of the box
That Bertuzzi hit was a major, but players need to keep their heads up. He has his head up he doesn't risk injury an Bertuzzi doesn't take a major.
Give me a break. Bertuzzi left his feet and hit him in the head with his elbow. Bertuzzi is a bitch. Don't defend him. I can't believe anyone wants him on their team. He's a bum. He's a chickenshit bum.
Bullshit, players leave their feet all the time making hits and don't get called. Johnson had his head down and had no clue what was going on around him, his own bench was even calling for him to pull his head up.
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<br>This bullshit attitude about cleaning up hockey has done nothing to improve the game. I guess you would view Bob Probert and Joey Kocur as chickenshit players. Hockey is a violent game. Anyone remember the old Wings-Avalanche rivalry? Try to name anything comparing to it in the post lock out era.
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<br>If you don't attempt to protect yourself, you don't deserve to be saved by the refs.
I totally 100% disagree with you. High hits and head contact have no place in hockey. I said it below, Bertuzzi could have hit him in a much cleaner way. That was a DANGEROUS play. Not a hockey play. Just remember who you're defending here. This guy:
He shouldn't be playing hockey in my opinion
He got his punishment for that hit both by the league and by the courts. If the league and players association was find with him coming back, then fine.
So just to be sure, you're fine with Corey Tropp coming back???
Steve Moore still hasn't played yet, right??
will never skate again.
Exactly.
Now, I see the two sides of most of these hits, also as a former player I have some perspective on the game
Chara's hit on Patch, dirty/intentional: in a way NO, but anyone who has played the game KNOWS where the boards end like that and dream of rubbing someone out. OBVIOUSLY not injuring someone, but making a good hit. Also, if you are the offensive player in that situation you ALSO know where you are on the ice and you have to be aware.
Komisarek also had a huge hit earlier in the week and people are saying Mark Olver was defenseless, Komisarek left his feet, hit him high (yada yada yada)... The thing is these hits don't happen if the offensive player has his head up, I've been hit enough times to think twice about going over the middle, making a clearing pass, trying to squeeze by along the boards...
Alot of these hits are debatable, the hits that really need to be removed are the ones like Matt Cooke last week, where he literally threw his elbow right on the chin
I didn't think Chara's hit was dirty, he was riding Max off the puck. But like you said these are debatable. I think Bertuzzi's tonight was definitely a 5+Game, and maybe a game or two suspension due to his history/the current focus on hits to the head.
that is a really common misconception. He is NOT paralyzed he actually had an offer to play minor league hockey after the incident but he declined.
Bertuzzi leads with his shoulder rather than spin with an elbow up high and it's a great clean hit
Exactly, its not a problem that its a hard hit. It's that he goes high at his head with his elbow. It's a bullshit hit and it has no place in the game. Just like Bertuzzi.
March 28th, 2011 at 10:20 PM ^
Bertuzzi does not lead with his elbow high. His elbow starts out below his shoulder, but then because he has his back to the player + the fact that his stick hand is floating (carrying the stick off the ice) when his arm makes contact with the other players arm, it rides right up the arm and hits him in the head. It was a major penalty for sure, considering every player needs to be in control of their own body. (just like high sticking) But, I do not believe from watching the replay that Todd intended to hit him in the head with his elbow.
March 28th, 2011 at 10:25 PM ^
He paid the price for the hit and he's been better. Get over it. He's not just a goon now, he's helped the Wings tremendously by becoming more of an all-around player.
I completely agree with the poster above, saying that this is very comparable to Probert, Kocur, or even McCarty. Their role was to intimidate, hit, and be a nuisance. That's hockey.
Claude Lemeiux is actually probably the most comparable to Bertuzzi because of his hit on Draper. As a Wings fan, I despise Lemeiux with a burning passion, but I think it's wrong to say they don't deserve a spot in hockey.
March 28th, 2011 at 11:04 PM ^
that hit isnt bad at all theres worse hits that are "legal" typical NHL the non-hockey league.
yet are up 2-1. Both teams looking good. I do NOT want the wings round 1 (assuming we can make the playoffs, yada yada)
Where is datsyuk :( if he's out there this would be a whole different game.
he was hit a few games back and his hand got caught up in the glass. I believe he has missed 4 straight games.
If the playoffs started today he would be playing his usual 20 minutes a game
was a great save by Macdonald, and great defense on that breakaway by Hjalmarsson, looked cleaner live than on replay
That... probably should have been a penalty... (Holmstrom take down on breakaway).
What! No penalty?
Wow.. Nice move to recover by Crawford
on point tonight. Playoff atmosphere for sure
I hate Abdelkader. It's probably a combination of his MSU background and his gritty-goonishness. I'd probably like him if he were on my team.
Also, Crawford is on his game like Woah tonight
Crawford is playing great for sure. Also the Hawks are doing a good job trying to keep the wings off balance with shift changes.
Z. Tied up.
Pretty.
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Hossa definitely just punched Eaves right in the face after the whistle.
And no penalty called....awesome
it happens in hockey, punching people in the face is generally a penalty though. Sorry I am just pissed about the Seabrook hit on Helm at the end of the 2nd where he had his elbow up just like Bertuzzi did and wasn't even given a minor.
Saw that one. But yadda yadda he doesn't have the history etc
March 28th, 2011 at 10:00 PM ^
This game has been played with play-off intensity.
I love it
March 28th, 2011 at 10:01 PM ^
MacDonald is playing great
March 28th, 2011 at 10:04 PM ^
March 28th, 2011 at 10:04 PM ^
Weak penalty call against Z
March 28th, 2011 at 10:08 PM ^
fucking hossa
March 28th, 2011 at 10:09 PM ^
...nice shot, though.
March 28th, 2011 at 10:08 PM ^
damn it
March 28th, 2011 at 10:08 PM ^
March 28th, 2011 at 10:09 PM ^
He is still a diving bitch
March 28th, 2011 at 10:11 PM ^
Sick player. Has that changed recently? No, he has always been sick..
He is a douche. Screw Hossa.
March 28th, 2011 at 10:08 PM ^
Great job by the refs giving the game to the hawks with that weak call
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March 28th, 2011 at 10:27 PM ^
Herp a derp. It's not 'just a powerplay', it's a 3-4 in sudden death overtime.