OT Who do the Lions want to win tonight (NYG @ WAS)
I think a lot of us have been eyeing the possibility of the playoffs for the last few weeks, at least. However, with the win today and improving to 7-7 it's impossible to ignore the possibility.
It seems like a virtual lock if the Lions finish 3-0 (obviously no small feat.)
The Giants and Commanders are tied for the last two playoff spots currently, both at 7-5-1 and play each other tonight.
Giants remaining schedule: @ WAS, @ MIN, IND, @PHI
Commanders remaining schedule: NYG, @ SF, CLE, @DAL
I'm thinking we want the Giants to win given there's a high probability that Philadelphia will be resting a lot of their starters in week 18? Commanders remaining schedule looks a bit more difficult regardless.
December 18th, 2022 at 5:05 PM ^
Always cheer against the 'Skins, The Washington Football Team, Commanders or whatever else they are calling themselves now.
December 18th, 2022 at 5:23 PM ^
OP on a neg-parade in their own thread. that's different.
WTF seems like they are held together with baling wire. and have a tougher schedule.
seems like a tie-breaker might be most wins, so if they tie tonight neither get the biscuit?
December 18th, 2022 at 6:26 PM ^
I don't think WTF means what you think it means!
/s
December 18th, 2022 at 5:06 PM ^
We've seen it before - Lions squeak into the playoffs then proceed to act like a baby seal and get clubbed by a highly seeded team. Not sure I want to see that again.
EDIT: Except the last time when they played Dallas and got completely jobbed by that PI flag that was picked up late in the 4Q when they were driving to win it. I'm all for the Lions to make the playoffs, but they need to play better when they do.
December 18th, 2022 at 5:11 PM ^
One of the highly seeded teams is going to be that utterly fraudulent Vikings team. Lions would get them or San Francisco if they manage to get in. Cowboys will be the 5 and get whoever emerges from the worst division in football.
December 18th, 2022 at 5:28 PM ^
For the number of injuries they had and the games they lost, they are on a roll. Whether they make it or not is a different story. I hope they make it. There are many frauds out there. Lions actually are playing better....
December 18th, 2022 at 5:29 PM ^
I bet you’re fun at parties
December 18th, 2022 at 5:44 PM ^
The fuck do previous lions teams have to do with this one
December 18th, 2022 at 5:47 PM ^
They must not have heard that these are the BRAND NEW LIONS!!
December 18th, 2022 at 6:01 PM ^
I get the whole Lions meme stuff, but Shiela is not her dad, Brad Holmes seems like he's doing everything right, and this team looks to be better than expected in year 2 under Campbell. Most importantly, they don't look like classic Lions. Even in the good Stafford days, so much of that was heroics on his part in chaotic games.
December 18th, 2022 at 6:40 PM ^
Agree, but
Brad Holmes seems like he's doing everything right, and this team looks to be better than expected in year 2 under Campbell
Does have me worried in multiple ways, but mostly because "there's no way they can stay that good+lucky". If they hit again on next year's 1st-3rd round picks, maybe I'll stop worrying about that (and instead worry some other team's gonna hire them away).
December 18th, 2022 at 9:10 PM ^
Lions will have 5 picks in the top 75ish, and one will be in the top 5. With the way Holmes has drafted so far and the fact that guys love playing for Campbell (helps with FA), they should continue their ascent next year.
December 18th, 2022 at 5:09 PM ^
The Cowboys might not have much to play for either (should be locked into playing the South winner), so I call that a wash. I think the Commanders are a bit better so in that sense better for them to win. The obvious take is we want the loser to lose again.
December 18th, 2022 at 5:22 PM ^
WAS has two Michigan players on their roster and NYG only one so have to go with WAS.
December 18th, 2022 at 5:28 PM ^
It doesn't matter who wins tonight, but we want whichever team loses to keep losing.
My hunch is Washington gets the #6 seed and we get the seventh (if Green Bay rolls over in the season finale or starts Jordan Love, having already been eliminated).
Honestly, I think we've got a 50-50 chance of beating Minnesota in the wild card round. (Of course, if SF catches MIN for the #2 seed, we have zero chance of beating them.)
December 18th, 2022 at 5:32 PM ^
I noticed that the Lions have the 4th best point differential in the NFC. That’s not saying a lot because the top 3 are well above the rest, but I would not have expected that at the beginning of the season. The lions are ascending. How high they reach is anyone’s guess, but I like the current trajectory.
December 18th, 2022 at 5:33 PM ^
7-7 with the worst secondary in the NFL. Haven't lost to a team with a losing record. Not bad.
December 18th, 2022 at 9:12 PM ^
.... and were right there with Philly and Buffalo, two of the best teams in the league.
December 18th, 2022 at 5:37 PM ^
I want them to tie again.
December 18th, 2022 at 5:41 PM ^
I rather the Giants win. WFT is playing better football than NY, so I need NYG to be the cooler.
December 18th, 2022 at 6:05 PM ^
I'd have to say after a horrible start the Lions have turned it around. I hope they can make the playoffs but finishing 8-8 or 7-9 is a step forward in rebuilding. Plus, they will have a lot of draft choices next year and can build on this season.
December 18th, 2022 at 6:10 PM ^
They play 17 regular season games.
December 18th, 2022 at 6:47 PM ^
Another tie is the best Lions scenario
December 18th, 2022 at 7:01 PM ^
Its really bad luck that the lions have the tiebreaker over both those teams but its effectively moot now for each of them because they tied each other. Of course.
December 18th, 2022 at 7:37 PM ^
Unless they tie again! Because 2 ties is the same as a win and a loss which would make that tiebreaker come right back into place.
Odds of a tie aren't great at all, but they've done it before so they can do it again! If this game ends in a tie then maybe it's really meant to be for the Lions.
December 18th, 2022 at 10:37 PM ^
Fun fact: no team has ever had two ties in the same season in the Super Bowl era.
December 18th, 2022 at 7:13 PM ^
NYG is the answer, we need wash to take this L, bc Dallas will prolly lose most there games and they have the tie breaker....go g-men!
December 18th, 2022 at 7:27 PM ^
Congrats to the Raiders tonight for the Yakkity Sax/Sparty No! victory.
December 18th, 2022 at 7:42 PM ^
I still can't believe it. Especially from a Belichek coached-team.
December 18th, 2022 at 8:14 PM ^
Might be some people in line 19 tomorrow.
December 18th, 2022 at 8:11 PM ^
Here’s the math according to fivethirtyeight:
Lions odds right now - 42%
With tie - 54%
With NYG win - 42%
With WAS win - 41%
So tie is the right answer otherwise it doesn’t really matter. I’d say I think WAS has a tougher closing schedule and are more likely to lose more games down the stretch.
FYI the Lions have a 97% chance of making playoffs if they win out.
December 18th, 2022 at 8:14 PM ^
Regardless?
Irregardless!
December 18th, 2022 at 8:34 PM ^
Giants may have 3 more losses coming. Commanders probably have 2 more losses coming.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:22 AM ^
If that happens, which hooo boy let’s hope it does, then the Lions only have to go 2-1 down the stretch to get in I think. They’d be 9-8 vs the other 2 being 8-8-1. Wouldn’t matter what happens with Seattle either I don’t think (though I think Seattle is circling the drain).
December 18th, 2022 at 9:29 PM ^
Agree OP that Philly won't likely have anything to play for week 18, but neither will Dallas, however Philly gets a bye week. So this is a basically a toss-up question. Either way the Lions need to win out and they can. If they lose one then they will need a small miracle.