OT - What has happened to Tiger Woods golf game?

Submitted by trueblue262 on

I know this is far from a golf blog, but it's beyond weird to me how quickly things have changed for Tiger. He just shot a 44 on the front in Phoenix.

Does he need Stevie back? Elin? Butch? 

Blue Since B.C.

January 30th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^

A multitude of things:

1) Mentally, he's lost his edge.  When he was dominant 10 years ago, he knew he could hit any shot he wanted and everyone else was scared to play with him (except for maybe a few guys).  Before he even teed it up in a tournament, he was basically already on the leaderboard.

2) His back and knees are really bad.  As a result of all of those injuries in the last 4 seasons, he's had to mess with his swing so much that he doesn't know which was is up anymore.  Obviously that's an exaggeration, but he's had so many coaches and tinkered so much with his swing that it must get confusing.

3) The young guns in golf are just so damn good now.  Rickie, Rory, Jordan, Keegan, Adam Scott, Ryan Palmer, Patrick Reed, Jason Day, and about 100 others (including 14-year-old kids from Asia and guys like Beau Hossler who was leading the US Open at Olympic a few years ago).  Many of them go out every week and eat these courses for lunch.  Tiger has no chance of having even 1 bad round in a tourney and making up for it.  There's no room for error any more.  Not saying he wasn't playing against a lot of good young golfer 10 years ago, but this is the best young crop of golfers in the history of the game.

There are many other reasons, but I think these are the 3 biggest.

BlueKoj

January 30th, 2015 at 3:02 PM ^

#1 and 2 are spot on and I agree. I don't think #3 has much to do with it. It's not like Tiger has a bunch of top-5s and 10s and just can't get over the hump.

I think #2 is the biggest issue. He's tinkered because of coaches, he's tinkered because of injuries and he's tinkered because he's lost confidence. He's been tinkering so much with his long game that his short game and putting have now become average to below average. His long game always got talked about in his prime, but he still hit it to bad places, but he scrambled his way to birdies and pars anyway.

If he can stay healthy, settle on a swing and fix his short game, we might see flashes of 2012/2013 again...unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever see Tiger of the 2000s again.

Yostbound and Down

January 30th, 2015 at 1:39 PM ^

He doesn't care anymore and hasn't for most of this decade. Yes he has injuries but he has overcome those in the past. He just doesn't give a shit anymore, he's made his money and legacy.

Yooper

January 30th, 2015 at 4:35 PM ^

He's older, broken down and lost his confidence.  But I don't think he doesn't care anymore.  If anything, it's just the opposite, which is why he keeps "tinkering" at this age.  I think caring too much, and not being able to deal with his decline, is making his attempts at a comeback even worse.

Maddogrdt

January 30th, 2015 at 1:39 PM ^

When he lost his Canadian prescriptions and South Florida "medications"...pretty sure a straight line can be drawn from his top 10 finishes to bottom ten finishes that intersects with his loss of performance enhancing drugs. 

Not being able to recover from his injuries and losing the mental edge they gave him, really seems to have destroyed his game.

Sad, as I used to think he was a masterful competitor and enjoyed watching him mentally destroy opponents. 

mgob-rad

January 30th, 2015 at 1:42 PM ^

Like some commenters above, it is very possible the decline of Tiger's golf game was because of the after affects of steriods and the damage done to his body. However, to suggest that steroids had a big part/nearly any part at all  in Wood's success is ridiculous for a game like golf. 

Yinka Double Dare

January 30th, 2015 at 2:26 PM ^

Eh, he wasn't super accurate off the tee even at his best. He was ridiculous though once you got a short iron or wedge in his hands, and he drained lots of putts, while his game around the greens was very good too. He doesn't have any of that right now, really. And the distance advantage he had over many of his competitors is gone. 

Bryan

January 30th, 2015 at 1:42 PM ^

We'll see how the year progresses for him. If he is still at the bottom of leaderboard in August then it's safe to assume he's done. 

WindyCityBlue

January 30th, 2015 at 1:43 PM ^

...is that we was seriously on the PEDs (as several have already mentioned on this board).  This was apparently the main driver for the over-inflated divorce settlement Elin got.  She was essesntially paid to keep her mouth shut about all the stuff she knows about Tiger, including an STD Tiger caught whilst intercoursing the state of Florida.  

 

NoVaWolverine

January 30th, 2015 at 1:56 PM ^

Doubtless a huge part of it is mental, and the mental side is such a huge factor at the level of PGA Tour pros. The hooker scandal definitely knocked him off stride.

Another part of it is physical. Tiger's always had a violent swing, and all that torque has clearly wrecked his left knee and his back; it's pretty hard to play great golf when those two key body parts are messed up. I kinda doubt Tiger ever did PEDs -- by all accounts he's just a workout nut who is a little obsessed with Navy SEAL workouts, etc. I seem to remember one of his swing coaches warned him to back off that stuff, fearing it was putting too much wear and tear on his joints.

Rick Reilly (who's not always my cup of tea) had a pretty good column last April contrasting Tiger with the man whose records he set out to chase from the beginning, Jack Nicklaus. Reilly said the big difference between the two was "balance":

>Woods has perfect balance in his golf swing. Nicklaus had it in his life.

 

Nicklaus had one coach, one swing, one woman. Woods has had three coaches, three swings and a Gold Club worth of women. One of each makes life simple. Multiples must be exhausting.

Woods had 18 majors lie down in his bassinet with him. It was his do-or-die, and he tracked it with a vengeance. But golf does not run well on vengeance. In golf, the harder you try, the worse you do. Nicklaus got to 18 majors without knowing he was going there. He didn't even know people were keeping track until he got to nine or 10.

Nicklaus loved golf, but it never seemed as if he loved it any more than his fishing, his hunting or his piano bars. [...] Woods' hobbies are as intense as he is. He spearfishes without a tank. Ski instructors in Colorado tell me he gets as mad at his own mistakes on the slopes as he does with them on the fairways. One of his most severe knee injuries apparently happened training with the Navy SEALs. [...]

Even their swings tell a story.

Nicklaus' swing was powerful, but it was softer, rounder, much like Nicklaus himself. [...] Woods' swing is a tower of torque -- like twisting a toy helicopter rubber band tighter and tighter. It's furious and fierce, like Woods himself. It tightens against unyielding hips, then uncoils against a stiff left knee. No wonder that knee has had four operations and now his back has had one[....] Nicklaus had three operations his entire career -- a knee at age 44, a hip at 59 and a back at 64. Tiger has already had five surgeries by 38.<

I don't think Tiger surpasses Jack's 18 majors now (he'd need 5 more); hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't win even one more. His body and his brain aren't in the right place, and there are too many other talented guys out there. Can you really see Tiger going toe-to-toe on Sunday at a major with Rory McIlroy anytime soon and coming out on top?

 

 

 

MGoManBall

January 30th, 2015 at 2:09 PM ^

This weekend he started the first 5 holes 3-4 over par.. that puts you 10 strokes behind the 8-ball and he hasn't even started his round yet.  Instead of Tiger doing what he used to do in tournaments which was play safe and get to Saturday and then make a move, he's playing poorly and putting himself out of it in the first day. Mentally it's difficult to grind knowing he's so far out of it already. 

smitty1983

January 30th, 2015 at 2:01 PM ^

Overheard this conversation before the tourney......

I'll take care of him. What you've got to do is cut the hamstring on the back of his leg right at the bottom. He'll never play golf again, because his weight displacement goes back, all his weight is on his right foot, and he'll push everything off to the right. He'll never come through on anything. He'll quit the game.



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Get Jim Harbaugh

January 30th, 2015 at 2:09 PM ^

Well, let's see. He missed most of 2014, so of course his first tournament this year, he will have a rough time. Secondly, don't forget that he won five times in 2013, which is very impressive, so if you take out 2014, which, again, he barely played due to injury, he isn't that far from winning.

Anonymosity

January 30th, 2015 at 2:15 PM ^

Because his body is breaking down and thus he's constantly injured? Because he's rusty after yet another long layoff due to injury? Because he won't stop screwing with his swing, he can't hit driver anymore, and for whatever reason his putting has also fallen off? Take your pick

leftrare

January 30th, 2015 at 2:18 PM ^

Just watched Notah Begay (i know, awesome name), a very close confidant of Tiger's back to their Stanford days, refer to Steve Sax disease, ie, second baseman who couldn't accurately throw to first. As a lifelong struggling golfer, I can totally relate to "the yips". That it is happening to the greatest golfer thats ever lived is... Humanizing? Terrifying? How can the human brain serve its master so cruelly?

markusr2007

January 30th, 2015 at 2:30 PM ^

He lost $750 million, major custody of his children, and years of accumulated market goodwill of his own brand.   He also recently got his teeth knocked out by a freaking camera.

A better question is how in world he shot as well as 44.