OT: What's Worse? 2007 Patriots (18-1) or GSW Losing This Year?
I'm kind of in awe of how well Billy Donovan got OKC playing right now. Also in shock at how poor GSW is playing. So much for the small ball line up.
I guess this would be worse. 73-9 in the regular season to not even make it to the Finals? Yikes.
On a side note, the NBA playoffs in both conferences have suddenly gotten super interesting given how many blowouts we've seen this year.
Kerr made a mistake by playing for the record. It gave the team an artificial finish line and they have not looked like the same team in the playoffs. What is crazy is that conventional thinking is that once they get back to California they will return with a fury and get back in the series, but at the current time my guess would be that they are going to return and get blasted by 20 to wrap up the series. It does not appear flukish, it appears as though they flat out can't matchup with OKC personnel and are overmatched in nearly every facet. It is also becomming clear that Draymond Green is not this combo pack of Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird (only faster) all rolled into one. Man, the hyperbole that is used to describe his game is something to behold.
Seattle had a record 116 wins and didn't get to play in the World Series. That was bad. If (IF!!) the GSW don't make it to the Final's, that would be worse than the Patriots loss in the Super Bowl.
Our 9/10U baseball team has won the regular season 3 out of the last 4 times. We've won the tournament only once. The tourney trophy trumps the three 1st place trophies. You only get on the park Facebook page for winning the tourney!!
Playoffs are not the best way to find the best team. The NBA's is the least bad but take baseball, you play 162 and then have a best of 5. Come on, it is entertaining but not a good way of finding a champion.
I don't think anyone thinks that the best team wins every year in any playoff format. The best teams generally make it, but then between luck and who's hot at the right time, anyone can win it.
The point of the playoffs is essentially entertainment. It gives you more games to watch, and at what's perceived to be higher stakes so the games or more interesting. You may not always get the best team winning it all the time, but you get more great games between the top teams and more of the sport, whichever one it may be.
Personally I'd rather it stay this way, and I think most people agree. Sure the best team might not always win, but that's kind of a draw for a lot of people. You don't have to be the best for an entire season, just get in and then anything can happen. That means a lot more teams have the hope of winning it all for a longer time, which increases interest in the league.
The playoffs also lead to high quality games between highly qualified teams. You have to be one of the X best teams to make the playoffs, so you have good teams playing the games which more often than not means an competitive game. Then add in the playoff drama factor, especially in elimination games, and the possibility for upsets, and you get something both the fans and leagues enjoy.
Also playoffs increase parity. The reason Leicester City was also incredible this year is because in the past 20 years, only 4/5 EPL teams won the title. It's a monopoly at the top. People already complain about the NBA having no parity since a LeBron led team has made the finals 6 straight years. Now imagine how boring it would be if the same 4/5 teams won the title every year in every sport.
you get to have your excitement and I can have my best team over a whole season not one-two weeks
Every game of baseball is pure randomness, the results at the end of the season are little different from flipping a coin. Stupid game. No need for 162 games of that crap dominating my airwaves and preempting my radio shows, switch it to 16 and give each team 1 pitcher a la footballs 1 qb.
That's my thought. Any given Sunday, the best team doesn't always win. The purpose of a 7 game series is to give the best team a better chance to advance.
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They'd be in the discussion, but those 96 bulls and the 11 in a row Celtics
Eleven in a row? The 1967 Sixers cry foul...
My buddy, a huge Giants fan, has one of my favorite t-shirts of all-time. It has the Patriots logo in the front with a tear running down its cheek and on the back it says 18 and OH NO!
Love it
wrong...
Also, Neville Longbottom killed the snake.
Can't believe that was 9 years ago..
GS can rattle off 3 straight if they re-learn to hit 3s. Curry is a liability when he doesn't hit his 3s.
OKC - Cavs would be nice. All the Cavs fans may wish they never said they'd rather play OKC than GS the way the Thunder are playing right now.
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I'm not sure the Cavs can even beat the Raptors right now lol.
I wonder how many people put money on Toronto - OKC.
Also, yes, it would be sweet for the Cavs to lose to the Raptors.
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That's not happening anytime soon.
Jerry West went 1-8 in Finals... one series in which he was the only player in NBA history to win MVP on the losing team, something Lebron almost came close to last year.
I don't see 4 more losses in Finals for Lebron either.
I think people were fine with Lebron until he made a monkey rodeo out of his decision to leave Cleveland. His nationwide tour and then ESPN special for The Decision on where he was taking his talents. After that, he opened his yap to proclaim just how many NBA Titles he would win. THAT'S where he lost me.
The Decision is really why people don't like him? Really? I mean I get why people from Cleveland were upset by that (prior to his return) but why would anyone else still have an issue with that? One of the greatest basketball players of all time took some bad advice, came off as arrogant in announcing his plans to win multiple championships when he was at the ripe age of 25, oh, and raised a couple million for charity in doing so... Makes zero sense to me.
As for my guess as to why he gets a lot of hate? A) he is still probably the best basketball player on Earth. B) he is dramatic- on the court and off. I personally think some of his on the court antics are justified as I think he is fouled more than almost anyone in the league but because of his size and athleticism a lot of the calls aren't made. Off the court, he acts like a high school girl at times. All of the drama with his coaches, with Kevin Love, etc.gets really annoying. And finally, C) he isn't afraid to let people know that he considers himself the best player on Earth.
I'm not sure if you're making my point or yours!
You specifically said that he lost you after The Decision and his Miami party where he announced his plans to win multiple championships. If that is truly the reason why you don't like him, and it has nothing to do with the other factors that I listed, it seems awfully petty to me. In a world where most celebrities and high profile athletes seem to be awful human beings, I don't think Lebron has done a bad job considering he has been on cover of magazines since he was 16.
Of people who still whine like little MgoBitches because a basketball player did something kind of dramatic a decade ago--it's MgoPriceless!!
No. I am arguing that disliking him solely because of The Decision is a lame reason to dislike him. I then offered up reasons that I consider are legitimate reasons as to why someone would not like Lebron. Also, I mentioned his on the court antics as being over the top. That would include his flopping. I also mentioned his drama with coaches...
Read the thread. Another poster stated that he/she didn't like Lebron because of The Decision. I was responding to him/her. If that is part of the reason why you don't like him, coupled with the other things that I have mentioned, I think that is reasonable. Even as a Cavs fan, Lebron gets on my nerves at times. But he is one of the most disliked athletes today and I don't think it is all that fair. By nearly all accounts, he seems to be a pretty damn decent human being all things considered. It is easy for us to say that he is arrogant but how could he not be? He has been compared to Michael Jordan since he was 16. He is worth nearly a billion dollars. But he stays out of trouble with the law, he is still with the mother of his children, and seems to be a great father. That is saying a lot for most big time celebrities and athletes nowadays.
Lol ok, man. You and millions of other people don't like the guy. I think he doesn't seem to be such a bad guy given his life path. Agree to disagree.
Lol sorry, I've never thought that The Decision was a big deal. There are far worse things that people in power do than being a little arrogant.
I understand, though. Jealousy often times turns to hate.
You make a good point -- LeBron's no Hitler, so disliking him must be based on jealousy.
The Decision showed quite a lot about his character, or lack thereof. Some people value that sort of thing.
I have mixed feelings about LeBron, and none of them are too strong.
I'm just posting to point out that using age as an excuse for a 25-year-old is an insult to 25-year-olds (and younger). 25-year-olds are at the peak of their intellectual powers: Einstein, Byron, Godel, etc.
Sports players have no excuse in peaking at an early age. Genius-level talent does that in almost every field. Even if you're not a genius in your field, you're more than capable - years and years and years more than capable - of functioning on your own at age 25, but that's verging into off-topic territory.
I wasn't attacking Lebron's intelligence. I was saying he was immature. I don't think anyone hits peak maturity at 25. We all do things when we are young that we regret later in life. I am sure Einstein, Byron, and Godel are no different.