OT: US Women's Hockey team kicks Canada's butt in more ways than one

Submitted by iawolve on
Well, they sound like a feisty bunch winning 4-1 in a game with 10 (!) fighting penalties resulting in an end of game brawl. Here is the money quote from our coach "I'm not a proponent of fighting in hockey, but I am a proponent of standing up for yourself," U.S. coach Katey Stone said. "We will not be pushed around." I guess not. http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/10175137/tempers-flare…

MGoGrendel

December 21st, 2013 at 10:55 AM ^

they are more involved in sports? Or, does sports give them the outlet so it's noticed more?

Reference this fight, OSU hockey fight a few weeks ago, Brittney Griner's viscous on-court roundhouse punch, women in MMA, etc.

I asked because I've been on this planet awhile and notice the change over 30 years.

Just to be sure of my message, women playing is a sport is not the issue. I see a greater amount of fighting and it's social acceptance of it ("yawn") as the issue.

justingoblue

December 21st, 2013 at 12:33 PM ^

As far as not dropping the gloves and helmets, it wasn't an NHL style square shoulders, let's go type fight, it was an overblown version of the same thing that happens all the time in college with facemasks on. Looks a lot like the crease does after just about every high school/midget whistle, just down in the corner and a wrestling move or two mixed in.

meechiganman14

December 21st, 2013 at 4:30 PM ^

This attitude makes you guys really poor sports when you lose, especially to the Americans. This is a great example. I've played, coached and been around the game a long time, and have seen it at every level. It seems like there's an arrogance about Canadien hockey that they can't believe they could ever lose to an American team.

clarkiefromcanada

December 21st, 2013 at 6:44 PM ^

The last time our women lost a gold medal game to an American team at the Olympics was 1998. Those teams deal with national expectations and even the meaningless pre-event games like this one are nationally televised and dissected in the media. American women's hockey is miles off the mainstream radar.

It's not anyone being poor sports; it's about Canadian identify, national expectation and a history of excellence. FWIW, three olympic gold in a row entitles team members to a little bit of arrogance.

It's the same deal up here for the men's teams.

meechiganman14

December 22nd, 2013 at 12:08 AM ^

"It's the same deal up here for the men's teams"

Since 1960 the US and Canada have the same amount of gold medals: 2

Let's be honest, the men is what people care about and Canadiens aren't arrogant because their women's teams are dominant. I'm talking about nationwide Canadiens feeling superior to American teams and subsequently losing their cool when they lose. I've played and coached in SE Michigan and have seen it at multiple levels. They can't stand losing to Americans and resort to cheap shots when they do.

clarkiefromcanada

December 22nd, 2013 at 5:43 PM ^

Canada has won eight gold medals in mens competition at the Olympics (including two gold since the turn of the century). I'm amused that Squaw Valley and the "Miracle on Ice" (the most recent of these being more than 30 years ago) equate in your view. So the comparison is when you can find an example of Canada and the US being tied in gold? Ridiculous.

We can look at it another way if you want; since the fall of the Soviet Union, in six Olympics Canada has 2 gold and 2 silver where the US has two silver (in six olympics). You're comparing apples and grapefruits. The Canadian pedigree in the games is just stronger. Historically and Today. Fact. This completely informs our national consciousness. That's not nationwide *feeling* superior in hockey. Canadian results dictate those feelings. We are the first nationl of hockey, put the most guys into the pros, support the most elite Junior leagues, won 4 of 5 World Juniors etc. etc. oh...and our women are good and lose pre-tourney games and won the last 3 olympic golds. I'm sure you get this; the US is the first nation of Basketball (except the inventing part), baseball, football etc. You dominate and these inform your national narrative. All we have is hockey and curling (and some winter sports and once in a while somebody like Mike Weir wins a Masters or something) and we will (perhaps violently at times) keep that torch burning.

FWIW, it's not you in SE Michigan, Canadians can't much stand to lose to anybody in hockey.