OT Update: Fraternity SAM suspended by UofM

Submitted by StephenRKass on

Many of you have been following the story about the vandalism caused by Sigma Alpha Mu at Tree Tops Resort in Northern Michigan. The News (and Freep, for that matter) are reporting that UofM has suspended the fraternity in light of last weekend's actions.

LINK:  http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/01/22/university-michigan-fraternity-members-accused-resort-vandalism/22176615/

In addition, up to five other Greek organizations at UofM may possibly also be suspended. This story has legs, and I'm sure there is more to come.

Besides Sigma Alpha Mu, UM officials said Sigma Delta Tau sorority was involved in the vandalism that occurred at Treetops Resort in Gaylord the weekend of Jan. 16-17.

That same weekend, Pi Kappa Alpha and Chi Psi fraternities along with Alpha Phi and Delta Gamma sororities were involved in reported vandalism at Boyne Highlands, 50 miles northwest in Harbor Springs, UM officials said. The damage involved 12 rooms.

UM officials want all of those groups to be suspended as well, university spokesman Rick Fitzgerald said.

M Go Dead

January 23rd, 2015 at 12:29 AM ^

This might be taken the wrong way, but how did it set back your house a decade or more? Ok, it takes 10 years to get back to the same status, but it isn't like your research got destroyed and you had to start over.

I know, it is probably just syntax, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

vablue

January 23rd, 2015 at 6:47 AM ^

But it generally sets them back by the numbers, they can't rush. No alumni donations or events, which makes alumni lose contact sometimes forever. And loss of many traditions, which can be good and is usually the hope of the school. A one year suspension is light, when Sig Eps were booted in the mid 90s it was for four years to try and get all the actives off campus. Many times a lot of the active members can not be part of the fraternity when it is reestablished.

Sports

January 23rd, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^

As a current member, I can shed some light on it. Basically what happens is that there's a large disconnect between the past and present. Ergo, you lose the financial support network that keeps the house in good shape. You lose a lot of the more positive traditions, like guys coming back for reunions and such. You essentially have to reconstruct a culture. That can be good and bad. If things get so bad that the charter has to be revoked, it's probably good that the culture is getting purged. But you do also have to reconstruct everything else, from internal policies and governance mechanisms to philanthropy events that were once a tradition to social standing and events like that. It can be both good and bad. 

SAMgO

January 22nd, 2015 at 11:23 PM ^

Honestly, there's a big difference between what is officially allowed to go on in a suspension period and what actually goes on. Officially the chapter isn't supposed to operate in any fashion, socially or otherwise. In practice, big fraternities on campus are already prepared for scenarios where main activities are "officially" suspended. Big fraternities here all each have a network of satellite houses around Ann Arbor and are able to "slush" money to consistently rent out other venues to hold events in. At the end of the day, the right to assemble remains. Three huge fraternities are off campus and out of the ifc which means they're essentially permanently "suspended" from having functions with IFC and Panhel organizations, but it happens anyways, and easily. That's just how it is.



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FormAFarkingWall

January 22nd, 2015 at 9:59 PM ^

It's a start, but still hoping to see criminal charges brought by Treetops and individual punishments doled out by the University.  

Let the individuals involved face repercussions for their disrespectful actions beyond having their beer pong table taken away from them.

LSAClassOf2000

January 22nd, 2015 at 10:17 PM ^

As a minor note, the quadruple (indeed, the repeated posts of 15 or more) posts have been some pronounced lately, so I would like to remind people to not hit "Save" multiple times if indeed that is what is going on. After all, some of us have paid our water bill three times by accident - well, I have anyway. 

JamieH

January 23rd, 2015 at 12:12 AM ^

That websites still do crap like this. We solved problems like this in application development over 25 years ago yet due to lazy website development you see crap like paying your bill multiple times or the dreaded multi-post. People put up with so much s*** on the web that they never accepted in application software. EDIT: Not calling out MGoBlog specifically. TONS of sites operate like this and I just don't get it. It is such an easy problem to fix, but so many web developers are lazy.

Prince Lover

January 23rd, 2015 at 1:12 AM ^

Ronda Jones remembers the time fondly when the horses sat behind the buttermilk produced by angelic apple sauce prepared freshly for the kids. She'll always smile about that one. Thanks for Ronda MeanJoe!

befuggled

January 23rd, 2015 at 9:39 AM ^

A friend of mine was moving and rented a truck, which he parked in front of his apartment. After we had loaded the damn thing, it wouldn't start. If I remember correctly it turned out it had been filled with regular gasoline instead of diesel. So we had to scramble to find a pickup truck and various other cars to get him moved.

On Monday he calls up to try to get his money back. Initially they tried to blame him for the whole problem, of course, but eventually they grudgingly admit that he was in the right and that they'll give him his money back.

When he looks at his VISA statement the next month, he notices that they've credited him seven times. He never said a word.

MJ14

January 22nd, 2015 at 10:00 PM ^

Suspended for how long though? The two worst offenders at Indiana University in the last few years were suspended, but not for long. Once they came back they were basically doing the same stuff. It needs to be a worthwhile amount of time. Like 5+ years. 

FormAFarkingWall

January 22nd, 2015 at 10:00 PM ^

It's a start, but still hoping to see criminal charges brought by Treetops and individual punishments doled out by the University.  

Let the individuals involved face repercussions for their disrespectful actions beyond having their beer pong table taken away from them.

Trolling

January 22nd, 2015 at 10:08 PM ^

As someone in the greek system who took pride in the his involvement and the general comportment of fellow members, I want to see more than just suspension. While people joke about college not being "the real world", there should still be real consequences. This type of action isn't what being greek is about, though all too often people seem to forget it.

StephenRKass

January 22nd, 2015 at 10:17 PM ^

It'd be interesting to hear from fraternity members from Sigma Alpha Mu, Pi Kappa Alpha and Chi Psi who are also here at MGoBlog. I'm sure there are some who are on this blog who are in one of those houses. I wonder if any are willing to share what they were thinking, and what they think the repercussions and sanctions should be in light of what happened.

I just went to the Sammie site for UofM (LINK:  http://www.michigansammy.com/) and there still is nothing posted whatsoever about the weekend.

Particularly damning is a statement from Tree Tops commenting on the public apology from Chapter President Joshua Kaplan. Barry Owens, general manager of the resort, was quoted saying this about Kaplan:

“I thought it was a joke because it was the president who was quoted and he was actually one of the ringleaders here,” Owens said. “He was one of the people who assured us they would behave themselves.”

OccaM

January 22nd, 2015 at 10:55 PM ^

Wanna contribute something useful? If the poster is in one of the houses, just maybe he knows a little bit more about the fiasco than you do. 

I can easily see 1 frat doing obscenely dumb shit worth up to 50k in damages and then the other ones dragged into the mess cuz of publicity. 

Do we have the damage figures for the other 2 frats? If say those damages are 1k each in a couple of rooms, are we still going to publicly lynch them too? 

Lets relax. 

OccaM

January 22nd, 2015 at 11:41 PM ^

Let me introduce you to labor costs. A door that costs 200 bucks tops ends up costing upwards to 800 or more. Considering this is a ski resort, they prolly use high end contractors which boosts the costs even more. 

OccaM

January 22nd, 2015 at 11:33 PM ^

1k is easy to rack up anywhere when you got 200+ people. If you don't clean up after yourselves (ie stains garbage) and add in some drunken bs like punching a wall, I'm sure you can get 1k easily due to labor costs. 

Smart people would clean up after themselves, assess the damage (if anything permanent) pay up. 

1k was just an arbitrary number, but when this thread was made a few days ago this is the kind of debauchery I was thinking of at first.

50k is way out of what I was thinking. 

MaizeNBlu628

January 22nd, 2015 at 11:37 PM ^

While I agree it is bad to damage property, things do happen, and $1k of hotel damage is not too hard. I was in Vegas for a Bachelors party, and one of the guys basically passed out when he was trying to piss at 4 am, fell on the toilet, and broke the back portion. He got a bill for about a grand for that.

Just saying, when there are 100+ kids, it is not outlandish to get $1k of damages.

StephenRKass

January 23rd, 2015 at 1:08 PM ^

WolvinLA2, here's the thing. When Sigma Alpha Mu's "prior" (chapter president?) Joshua Kaplan is quoted saying this was an isolated incident, very few were involved, maybe a couple guys, you have two possibilities, neither of which are good:

  1. One possibility is that Kaplan is correct:  there were two or three guys doing all the damage. In which case, how in the world can 115 or so other people (Sammies and SDTs) ignore the vandalism and destruction? Which covered 45 rooms? Hallways? It really is ironic that Sigma Alpha Mu, of all fraternities, would believe that it is ok to ignore and turn a blind eye to the criminal actions of others.
  2. The other possibility is that Kaplan is trying to do damage control, and the reality is that a significant number of fraternity bros (20? 30? 40?) were involved in the systematic trashing of Treetops resort. The problem with this scenario is twofold. First, it means that Kaplan is blatantly lying and covering up. (The implication of Treetop General Manager Owens, quoted in the Detroit News.) The other problem is that you have a huge portion of this fraternity thinking this kind of destruction is completely ok. Did they reall think no one is going to hold them responsible? That they could act this way with impunity?

One other observation. Thus far, I have heard literally nothing from anyone in a sorority, not Sigma Delta Tau, Delta Gamma, or Alpha Phi. Back in the day, it would be more typical for guys in a fraternity to do stupid destructive stuff. Is that still the case, or does the equality of the sexes mean that the sorority sisters were just as destructive as the fraternity brothers?

WolvinLA2

January 23rd, 2015 at 12:36 PM ^

Normal damage doesn't mean it happens all the time. He means it's the type of damage that happens sometimes, the customer gets the bill, pays it, and moves on. The fraternity may have even budgeted for that. Point is, if you bring 100 college guys anywhere for a weekend, do a thousand (or even a few thousand) worth of damage and pay it, that's not news-worthy.