OT: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
New teaser. Looks amazing. $10 says I have a good guess who is laughing at the end.
Here's to new beginnings since you know, TLJ was absolute crap.
https://nypost.com/2019/04/12/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-trailer-recap-and-analysis/
LOL AWESOME
Good ole' Sheev back in action!
SPACE, BITCHES. SPACE.
Trying to get my head around how the END of the Skywalker saga can have "the RISE of Skywalker" as its title.
But agreed, this looks promising, considering how bad TLJ was.
"Rise" doesn't mean what you think it means. Rumor is this one will have an NC17 rating, if you know what I mean.
I've seen Daisy Ridley naked. And I fully support this idea.
Really!!! I need to go look, any suggestions???
/asking for a friend
LANDO!!!!!
He's probably in a space old folks home and Chewie takes him out for a day.
He's a little long in the tooth to still be kicking back the Colt 45 malt liquor on the Falcon.
i never figured you to be one who was an age discriminator. disappointed. colt 45 is not held down by simple human borders. its even smoother at light speed.
Anyone born prior to 1980 must have an esophagus made of steel. The new generations just can't handle that sweet poison.
April 12th, 2019 at 10:21 PM ^
Works every time.
Colt 45, mickeys wide mouth, and I had several bad evenings together in my youth.
Colt 45 is only smooth going down.
Amen brother
The laugh at the end is the dude from Thriller by Michael Jackson right? /s
The laugh was the best part, IMO!
April 12th, 2019 at 10:22 PM ^
Vincent Price is in this?
April 13th, 2019 at 10:50 AM ^
It’s Drax from Guardians of the Galaxy. This introduces him so Disney can launch his backstory movie prior to GG 3.
VADER is blue, so Star Wars is not OT in my opinion
Kylo Ren sucks as a villain.
That is all.
My opinion is many people think this only because they massively erred and had him get his ass kicked by someone who'd only had a lightsaber for like 3 days.
Him holding that laser blast with his mind for his opening scene was incredible. I like that he's immature, unsure, petty, angry, manipulative and maybe genuinely intent on doing things differently. I should be able to add unbelievably powerful to that list but they robbed us all of that... maybe intentionally.
He manipulated Snoke brilliantly, and Rey too, because he couldn't have done it without her. Then he tries to convince Rey to join him by killing the whole idea of good guys and bad guys. Was he just trying to turn her? She and Luke dealt with exactly the same thing (blowing up the idea of jedi, the tree, but saving the texts). Did he know that from their connection and that was just the first step of turning her to the dark side? Or does he really want to end all of the good guy / bad guy back and forth?
They made Vader the ultimate in fear and kept him that way for nearly all of 3 films. They neutered Ren in his debut. In the same way though, were the filmmakers trying to blow up the whole idea of of the original series by intentionally having him beat up (by a girl!)? They essentially created a parallel but nearly identical universe to the first set of films and have been slowly deconstructing it. Ren being beaten by Rey is often seen as showing her power, breaking that stereotype (girl power!). But it could be going the other way.
Someone can pull this out of the fire and it could be really interesting.
You have obviously thought about this way more than I have. My issues boil down to not liking the actor playing him and the fact that he seems like a whiny little bitch compared to Vader.
Luke was whiny too.
Adam Driver is the most talented staring actor in the history of Star Wars. The guy is great. Only one close is his father, Harrison. I though Hatter was a smart guy, but this take really discouraged me. :(
Driver and Isaac are both very good actors. Isaac feels somewhat wasted in these films. Watched Ex Machina the other day again and damn he's talented.
John Boyega who plays Finn should be shot into the sun. I have seen him in the Star Wars films, Pacific Rim 2 and that wildly mediocre Tom Hanks film the Circle...and he's just blah.
Whatever. He's a spoiled rotten brat who looks and acts exactly like a spoiled rotten brat. I'm almost certain he simpers. Vader at least had a reason to be bad, messed up as it was.
The only redeeming actor/character of the new movies is Rey. That cat would tear your heart out and cheerfully eat in front of your children.
I watched Solo out of obligation to the character, which was OK except for the addition of the cast from Glee, but I'll be skipping the rest of these. Mutineers don't get a pat on the head and a lecture, they get hanged.
Doing Vader all over again would be a re-tread. Isn't Ren more of what we'd identify with today, as uncomfortable as that might make us, isn't more like who we are? We all thought we wanted another kick-ass light saberin' Star Wars movie. But in the 70's the idea of good and bad was real and simplistic and believable. Just like the hive of scum and villainy was an alien biker bar in a New Hope, and it's the 1%ers in the reboot. The world has changed. It's not as easy to look at anyone and say bad guy and good guy. Cops were the ultimate good guys in back then, maybe not in actuality, but in public perception. Now a lot of people see them as harmful (or have learned that African-Americans have thought that for decades, and now seeing it too). This is the environment that the reboot is exploring. Maybe. I could be wrong.
But Ren grew up and was a sweet boy, then rejected his parents. Then he went to train and wanted to be like Luke, before rejecting him (and the idea of the good side). Then he literally changed himself into his grandfather, donning "that ridiculous mask" in Snoke's words. He doesn't have any idea who he is. He doesn't know who to follow. Some of that is his fault, some of that is the world he lives in. It angers him and he's powerful, so he blows it up (killing his father, and his father figure Snoke, removing the mask). He doesn't know what he wants but he knows his sick of whatever is now.
It could be a really interesting journey ahead. Vader slaughtered hundreds/thousands/whoknows, and we accepted his ultimate redemption. Ren is on another road, and that's good - it should be a different one.
I know it's cool to think it was "more believable" for there to be just good/evil in the 70s. It wasn't. What it is is a movie, where things can be different than reality. Science fiction above all else can imagine away most of the dumber parts of humanity, and just do a good vs evil theme. Hell, isn't that basically the whole concept of Star Trek taken to the extreme?
Darth Wannabe just seems like a spoiled rotten child who grew to an adult and wants someone to notice how special he is by being an a**hole. He's evil by conscious decision. How is that ever identifiable with? Again, at least Vader did something unforgivably stupid in his youth that gave him no real choice but to be evil. Kylo is just doing it for attention.
What's really irritating about all that is Leia and Solo were not cast originally as the kind of people who would raise such a stupid spoiled kid. Original Leia was no-nonsense and Solo would have had the kid smuggling by 10 years old.
You should change your username to Lestat
I bet his parents also paid for a consultant to get him admitted to the University of Southern Empire.
Maybe she kicked his ass because she's a skywalker about to rise?
Cheers.
I think they just made extremely poor choices for reasons they might have felt interesting, and your speculation is as good/better as any, but to audiences, and especially audiences who bought into that world, came close to ruining it. I mean, beyond the terrible choices Johnson made in TLJ, just as a film trilogy, killing Snoke in the second film, leaving us with a chief villain who was already soundly beaten by Rey (another poor choice IMO) in the first film, when you look to film 3 there was no suspense because there was no intimidating villain left. That's why it was the only choice they could have made to bring back the Emperor-though of course he's already been beaten as well.
Did they get a different director? If it's the same guy who did TLJ, I hold out zero hope of it being decent.
It's back to JJ Abrams. Rian Johnson was banned from making another movie.
The whole sequel trilogy just looks like a mess. TLJ ruined any cohesive story and it looks like Abrams is try to put the pieces back together after Johnson ruined it.
I’m reading that Rian Johnson’s Star Wars trilogy is still happening after this one. Unfortunately.
I don't think Rian Johnson was bad. I think it was mainly Kathleen Kennedy forcing that Marie Tran character into the script. The storyline of Finn and Rose going to that gambling world was awful. I personally loved the scenes involving force sensitive characters.
That was my only complaint with TLJ. The Canto Bight subplot bogged the movie down, and came across as a little preachy.
Some people think he’s reinventing Star Wars. Some think destroying it. Guess we disagree there.
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I tried, but it just didn't do anything for me.
I almost wish I had never seen the original trilogy, because the offerings over the last 20 years have been nothing but disappointing.
I suppose there's a lesson in there somewhere.
Comrade, I completely agree with you. Hopefully the actual film is better as this little sneak peak left me underwhelmed.
Empire Strikes Back is a masterpiece, and a New Hope was great for what it was, but the original trilogy is overrated relative to the other movies. This movie has tons of potential, hopefully Mr. Abrams can keep Kathleen Kennedy far enough away from the script to make it great.
April 12th, 2019 at 11:19 PM ^
Surely you jest. The original trilogy is overrated? The crap that has been recently produced by Disney is a complete insult to new and old Star Wars fans.
Slight disagreement about how bad TLJ was.
I think it was a potentially great, but flawed movie, that ultimately got in its own way too damn much. To me, its main flaw was that it was both a) trying to subvert and question a lot of the tropes surrounding Star Wars movies and b) trying to be a Star Wars movie itself. As a result, I can't say it really succeeds at either, but I can look at it and appreciate what it was trying to say.
While I can't really place it over any of the original trilogy and probably flip-flop it between Solo and R1, I would definitely place it over TFA which was far too derivative and it's galaxies better than the insipid prequel trilogy.
Prequel trilogy is grossly underrated. Maul vs Kenobi and Jin was amazing. I do agree with you point that TLJ struggled between two different directions and failed to achieve one totally. I LOVE the Kylo Ren character.
Maul is awesome ill give you that but i have rewarched recently and i just cant get over Anakin. The little Anni was fine but the boy band model guy... yeesh. The whole thing is bright and shiny and pretty... and not good. Star wars needs some dirt, its needs some grim. Young Darth Vader needs more than 17 minutes lead up to evil. He shouldve had a slow burn and an unpleasent feel the whole time. He was cute then pretty. You just cant do that to the focus of 2 entire trilogies. My 2 cents.
TLJ was a good movie. Fight me.
Not without its flaws, but it was not trash in my opinion.
