OT: The SEC Perception
My daughter chose to write a research paper on if, as assumed by most fans, the SEC is committing NCAA rule violations (besides minor ones that get reported) in football recruiting. As a part of the paper, she needs to get the opinions of 10-15 college football fans on the topic. I told her there would be no better place to get better educated responses than MGoBlog. So if you guys could please share your opinions, you'd really be helping her out.
Also, having all girls, I never thought one of my daughters would take an interest in this. So it means a lot to me for her to take an interest in, well, my interests.
The two questions:
1. Do you think the SEC is committing serious NCAA rule infractions?
2. If you think so, or don't think so, what is your reasoning?
Thanks in advance!
January 29th, 2013 at 12:17 AM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 3:45 PM ^
Red Brick and Sweetwater are located here in Atlanta...I'll put those up against most.
February 8th, 2013 at 1:10 AM ^
Beer advocate is your friend.
January 28th, 2013 at 7:47 PM ^
January 28th, 2013 at 7:55 PM ^
You don't win 3 titles in 4 years without breaking a few rules.
January 28th, 2013 at 8:55 PM ^
I've won 8 straight national titles on NCAA '05 and I always bench my players for the 5 stars riding the pine behind them when they dont go to class. It can be done
January 28th, 2013 at 7:59 PM ^
2. having spoken with more than one college coach, they go into high schools of kids who they know would never be eligible in a million years and try to get them on an IEP. This helps a boatload with the clearinghouse and away they go.... Then they Over sign..... Etc.
3. Hate those guys
January 28th, 2013 at 8:41 PM ^
I think it's a combination of illegal recruiting and getting lucky that some of their teams have gotten the best coaches of all time in the last 20 years.
Florida was nothing until Spurrier got there and he completely changed the culture there. Now everyone looks at Florida as big time.
LSU was nothing until Saban got there. He has managed to change the culture there the same way.
Auburn got the luckiest national championship ever bought.
Then there is Alabama and they do what they do plus have Nick Saban.
January 28th, 2013 at 8:51 PM ^
1. No
2. Too hard to keep it quiet. Of course there are isolated problems in many situations, but I can't believe there are widespread conference wide schemes.
January 28th, 2013 at 8:56 PM ^
You guys sound like your all butthurt. Michigan cheats just like all other major BCS teams in one way or another.
January 28th, 2013 at 9:04 PM ^
January 28th, 2013 at 10:14 PM ^
January 28th, 2013 at 9:01 PM ^
1. Yes
2. I think it's a cultural thing in the South and similarly, to a slightly lesser extent, at OSU. The fans, as an observation from afar, seem to base their senses of identity and self-worth on the success of their football program. The pressure this places on school and football administration forces them, if they want to keep their jobs, into the "win at all costs" mentality. Success breeds more insanity from the fan base which adds even more pressure to the schools. An endless circle with increasing intensity. Or something.
January 28th, 2013 at 9:31 PM ^
I'm confused. I thought a post called "The SEC Perception" was going to be about how lame that conference is in Basketball.
January 28th, 2013 at 9:36 PM ^
1. Yes.
2. Cam Newton, oversigning, St. Saban Memorial Hospital, hostesses, etc. If these things are common knowledge, surely there's more/worse going on that we don't know about.
January 28th, 2013 at 9:53 PM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 9:36 AM ^
January 28th, 2013 at 9:56 PM ^
January 28th, 2013 at 10:00 PM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 12:46 AM ^
1. Yes
2: http://www.footballgeography.com/?p=1159 - kind of explains it all.
Alabama who has had a total of NINE seasons, since 1989, they have not committed a violation that has put thier program on probation, led to bowl bans and/or vacated seasons. Of those 9 seasons, 5 of them are the last 5 years, history very clearly shows that those 5 are most likely going to lead to a violation of some kind.
January 29th, 2013 at 4:08 AM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 6:05 AM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 8:52 AM ^
Quality first post.
Obvious obvious is obvious
January 29th, 2013 at 3:54 PM ^
Your girlfriend is in kindergarten?
January 29th, 2013 at 9:19 AM ^
I'll play devil's advocate. You could make the argument that the rise of the SEC is the culmination of decades of social progress in the south. 50-60 years ago, black players had no choice but to seek places on football rosters in places outside of the south. When the SEC, SWC, ACC began to integrate in the mid-to-late 60s, the first minority players to appear on rosters weren't treated very well by their teammates or their fanbase, so you still saw a large amount of migration of talent to the north and west.
Now the present-day African-American athlete is 2-3 generations removed from the strife of the civil rights era. The racial prejudice that was so prevalent in the 50's and 60's is seen as archaic by the students in college these days. so a higher percentage of players in the talent-rich south are just choosing to stay close to home, because lots of college students don't want to move too far away from home.
Understand, I'm not making this argument as a counter to the arguments already made. I think many SEC schools play pretty fast and loose with the rules, but adopting a position of, "The SEC is full of cheaters" is overly simplistic.