OT: NFL - Lions at Bears - Open thread - discussion

Submitted by Amazinblu on December 10th, 2023 at 12:56 PM

The Lions visit the Bears today….  What do you think?

Enjoy… Go Lions..

Michfan777

December 10th, 2023 at 1:47 PM ^

Despite being 9-3, the Lions have been pretty shit for a few weeks now. This feels like a late season swoon starting, when they should be peaking heading into the playoffs instead. 

WayOfTheRoad

December 10th, 2023 at 1:49 PM ^

Awful penalty call before the end of the 1st Q, Gibbs drops a TD off the swing on 3rd and then Goff throws a pick on 4th. A wild swing of events there that you can't afford with this defense.

Speaking of, defense is as bad as ever. Schematically and execution is worse than year one right now. At least that defense was absolutely void of talent. While the talent level is currently still bad, theyre playing far below their talent level. Anzalone had lost the Analzone moniker I had for him but he's slowly earning that back. He alone probably gave The Bears a few of those early 10pts. 

Any playoffs this team sees as they are the past few weeks will see them bounced immediately. In fact, at this rate the division itself isn't a sure bet even with the leas they have. The rest of the schedule are dome games but that goes both ways so Detroit will have to keep winning shootouts it seems.

A slight positive is they just now forced a turnover on downs so let's see how this plays out.

bronxblue

December 10th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^

I think people here are overreacting a bit in terms of the defense; they've struggled at times in the secondary but they've also been put in not-great spots but an offense that for 2 weeks gave up the ball 7 times.  That's tough for anyone to compensate for.

This isn't a title contender but they aren't any more fraudulent than that tier of teams below the true SB favorites.  They've got good pieces and an offense that can run you off the field when they're humming.  But Goff has a ceiling as a QB and if their defensive line can't get consistent pressure QBs have areas to throw the ball in the secondary.  I think they'll draft some secondary help soon and then we'll see if they take a flyer on a QB.  But they look light-years better than even some of those Stafford-era teams that would limp into the playoffs.

WayOfTheRoad

December 10th, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^

Gotta disagree regarding defense when it comes to overreacting. It's bad-bad. The execution is awful across the board (not all on Glenn) and schematically it often makes no sense at all (on Glenn). The talent level is currently poor due to injuries but it's better than the last two years. They're definitely underperforming their talent. 

I'm not too worried about the offense beyond OL health/stability and Goff seeming to regress a bit mechanically and in decision making. They just scored a TD as I'm typing this. I just don't think trying to win shootouts is going to work vs Minnesota, Dallas and literally anyone they may see in a playoff game be it home or away.

NewBlue7977

December 10th, 2023 at 2:16 PM ^

The turnovers are frustrating, but the defense is keeping the opponents in the game.  When you give up a number of 3rd and longs it's a worry at how bad the defense is.  Much of the other times opponents are in a 3rd and short situation which gives the other team's offense a high percentage of getting that 1st down.  I get this is football, but it's not like the Lions' defense has been playing against offensive world-beaters the last few games.  People say Aaron Glen doesn't have the talent, but he actually does.  He doesn't have elite talent, but on the DL he has good NFL talent, he has very good LBs and the secondary is not great by any means, but they are not horrible either.  This should add up to an average defense, but they are bad right now.  

bronxblue

December 10th, 2023 at 1:51 PM ^

I'm watching this game on a massive delay but for all of Detroit's struggles the Bears are still just dumb with their weapons.  Fields can get you a yard with a sneak while trying to pitch it to the short side with Moore, 1 blocker, and 3 tacklers is just dumb.