OT: New Cut of Godfather Part III to be Released
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/5709762002
HUGE fan of GF and GF Part II here so this news caught my eye. GF III was obviously nowhere close to the first two. In fact I would say it was a disappointment. It had a few moments but the problem with the movie is Sofia Coppola’s acting and the ludicrous love interest between her and Vincent. No alternate ending or rearranging of scenes is going to cure those problems. Maybe Francis just needs the money.
September 3rd, 2020 at 9:02 PM ^
What if we got a Snyder cut of Godfather III instead?
September 3rd, 2020 at 9:04 PM ^
But is this one good?
September 4th, 2020 at 1:52 PM ^
Confirmed, God Father III: Good Version.
September 3rd, 2020 at 9:35 PM ^
Just when you thought 2020 couldn't get any more sadistic.
September 3rd, 2020 at 9:38 PM ^
Just when I thought I was out, they keep pulling me back in.
September 3rd, 2020 at 9:54 PM ^
Probably just need the money.
September 3rd, 2020 at 9:57 PM ^
Unless they put Robert Duvall in and took out George Hamilton, it won't be any better . . .
September 3rd, 2020 at 10:01 PM ^
Huge Godfather fan. Saw III on opening day. Was disappointed but over the years the movie has grown on me. Looking forward to a revamped version to see what it’s like.
Robert Duvall apparently wanted too much money that’s why George Hamilton was in it.
September 3rd, 2020 at 10:19 PM ^
Duvall is one of my favorite actors. Truly entertaining in all his roles.
September 6th, 2020 at 9:22 PM ^
"The Great Santini" is a vastly underrated movie IMO
Great book too
September 3rd, 2020 at 11:52 PM ^
I haven't watched it in years, but aside from the love scene in the kitchen, I didn't think it was as bad as people claim.
Maybe I'll give it another go this weekend.
September 4th, 2020 at 1:21 AM ^
The film suffers from comparisons more than from any actual mistakes/missed opportunities.
Interesting to hear the criticisms of this particular sequel in an age where we will never find out how many stories end due to endless sequels and reboots.
September 3rd, 2020 at 10:23 PM ^
The acting in the movie wasn't great, nor was the writing - but the story very intriguing. There have been rumors circulating for decades about Pope John Paul I's sudden passing, and the corruption in the Vatican that he was threatening to expose. Many of the church officials in the story are barely-fictionalized versions of real people. In some cases, literally the only changes were the names, and perhaps an official title.
September 3rd, 2020 at 10:29 PM ^
Liked that part of the story a lot - and not really a “story” at all as you point out. The opera shit, not so much.
September 4th, 2020 at 6:29 AM ^
Yeah, the opera was obviously supposed to be a metaphor for the drama in the Church and Mafia. But, good grief, there was nothing subtle about it.
September 3rd, 2020 at 10:51 PM ^
Maybe they will redo the Game of Thrones next amirite?
September 3rd, 2020 at 11:08 PM ^
If I get to see Emilia Clarke some more I’m down
September 3rd, 2020 at 11:12 PM ^
At least the last season. Maybe the last two.
September 3rd, 2020 at 10:51 PM ^
The movie, while unable to hold a candle to I or II, definitely had its moments, and the ending (outside of Sofia Coppola’s completely unconvincing portrayal of death, god that was awful) was actually beautiful. Everything came full circle, the tragedy and anguish that Vito never wanted for Michael was finally complete. I thought that moment of Michael crying out in completely silent agony was actually an amazing moment.
Put in a vacuum, the movie was decent to good. But it’s remembered as being “bad” because it followed two movies that are considered to be the greatest of all time.
September 4th, 2020 at 8:21 AM ^
I thought Santino was a bad Don.
September 3rd, 2020 at 11:48 PM ^
taken them thirty years to figure out how to make it watchable . . .
September 3rd, 2020 at 11:57 PM ^
GF III at least gave us the lesson of the stone in the water, the line “maybe they should be afraid of you” which was a great homage to Connie being taken back into the family, and the more famous “ every time I think I’m out they pull me back in”.
Of course none of those moments comes even close to “leave the gun, grab the cannoli”.
September 4th, 2020 at 8:49 AM ^
As if 2020 wasn’t bad enough.
September 4th, 2020 at 9:02 AM ^
I saw it again recently, and yeah, the acting is pretty lacking across the board, especially Sofia Coppola. I read somewhere that FFC wanted Winona Ryder for that part and for some reason, it didn't work out, so Sofia stepped in.
I also felt the same way about the kid in "Almost Famous." I would consider that an almost perfect movie if it wasn't for the actor who played the lead. I know he was supposed to be this young, naive kid, younger than he says, but he just completely missed the mark for me.
September 4th, 2020 at 11:33 AM ^
Winona Ryder would've been a great throwback to Talia Shire's role.
September 4th, 2020 at 5:56 PM ^
I agree wholeheartedly about the boy in Almost Famous. I wouldn’t have called it almost perfect with a better actor but he was a tough watch, like Anikan in Episode I. (Nerd!)
September 4th, 2020 at 9:26 AM ^
I didn't think Sofias acting was a problem at all, except in that final shot when shot.
III wasn't as good because it didn't involve any old time characters, but all new Italian ones. I and II had most of the same characters and was why was most appealing. And the one new mobster Joey zazza alpearedy a weakling who'd have gotten eaten alive by the old mob, and the rivalry wasn't developed properly, seemed forced.
September 4th, 2020 at 9:45 AM ^
By definition, wouldn't Godfather I have had all new Italian characters when it first came out?
September 4th, 2020 at 11:14 AM ^
Unless they can cut Sophia out of the movie, I can’t see how the new cut would improve it. She may be a fine director, but lord did she suck as an actress. They had about half of a good movie there, but the other half just stunk.
September 4th, 2020 at 11:56 AM ^
GFIII had its flaws, but the performance of Al Pacino saved the movie, IMHO. In tracking the evolution of Michael Corleone's character--from being young and idealistic to cold and machiavellian by the end of GFI and throughout GFII to deeply remorseful and desperate for redemption in GFIII--the movie fits well with the first two.
There's quite a backstory on the casting of Sofia Coppola as Mary Corleone. Francis Ford Coppola had great difficulty filling that role; every actress he approached turned him down or backed out due to scheduling conflicts or other issues. One actress, Rebecca Schaeffer, was tragically murdered a few hours before she was scheduled to audition for the role. Coppola was finally able to convince Winona Ryder to take the role after she initially turned it down because it would have been her third consecutive movie with no break. But he couldn't line up an understudy and was simply hoping that nothing would happen with Ryder. When Ryder finished filming Mermaids and arrived in Rome to begin filming her scenes for GFIII, she was exhausted. The night before she was scheduled to film her first scenes, she became seriously ill and summoned a doctor to her room. After examining her, the doctor urged her to drop out and told her point blank "If you do this movie, you will die."
When Ryder dropped out, Coppola was in a huge bind with no understudy ready to step in. Paramount wasn't going to let him suspend shooting since the movie was already behind schedule and over budget. There was simply no way to find a qualified replacement on such short notice. Sofia just happened to be visiting her dad on spring break, having no idea about what was about to happen, and was literally thrust into the role by her dad with no notice whatsoever. She found out she was going to play the role the day before she shot her first scenes. Her performance was predictably awful, and poor Winona Ryder's career suffered as a result as people blamed her for Sofia's performance. I don't think there's another instance of an actor's name being so closely associated with a movie that they never appeared in.
September 4th, 2020 at 2:35 PM ^
I love all stories about movie roles that almost went another way. I don't know if such a book exists, but I would read the crap out of it.
I think the most famous one is Tom Selleck as Indiana Jones, but the one that most blew me away when I heard it is that Beverly Hills Cop was originally written for Sylvester Stallone.
September 6th, 2020 at 11:50 AM ^
Eric Stoltz as Marty McFly in Back to the Future is another famous one. Zemeckis wanted Michael J Fox all along, but he was committed to Family Ties and the show's producers refused to let him take time off or film a movie on the side. So Zemeckis cast Stoltz and filmed half the movie with him before deciding he wasn't working out. He then went back to the Family Ties producers and literally begged them to let Michael J Fox do the movie.
Universal has released bits and pieces of the Stoltz footage to the public, but most of it still sits in a vault somewhere.
September 4th, 2020 at 2:15 PM ^
So they're cutting George Hamilton...and Sofia Coppola...and Andy Garcia...
And cutting the stupid Vatican plot...
So basically I'm going to take a three hour nap titled Godfather Part III
September 4th, 2020 at 2:36 PM ^
Username!
September 4th, 2020 at 3:40 PM ^
It’s like having a terrible meal at a favorite restaurant and deciding or order the same thing the next month in hope the recipe changed.
September 6th, 2020 at 9:30 PM ^
As in the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result