OT: John Geddert Commits Suicide
February 25th, 2021 at 4:48 PM ^
Note: I am referring to how his suicide was announced just a couple hours after his charges..
February 25th, 2021 at 4:49 PM ^
Since you didn’t make a link, we’ll never know.
February 25th, 2021 at 4:58 PM ^
Justin Feagin commits suicide.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:18 PM ^
Pedophile. Child abuser. Now an ultimate coward too.
February 25th, 2021 at 8:27 PM ^
Rather than coward I think he did humanity a service... not to mention the taxpayers which don't have to foot the bill to keep the scumbag behind bars.
February 25th, 2021 at 4:50 PM ^
Fuck him.
February 25th, 2021 at 4:51 PM ^
Took the easy way out, I guess.
February 25th, 2021 at 6:48 PM ^
Lots of people would want him dead anyway. He just saved a lot of people a lot of time, money, and energy. Self-inflicted Justice. I think people who are mad that he kill himself are mad because they couldn't get their Vengeance on him
February 25th, 2021 at 6:58 PM ^
I don’t speak for anyone but I know a lot of Epstein’s victims feel that they didn’t get justice when he killed himself
February 25th, 2021 at 7:33 PM ^
Killed himself or was murdered. A lot of powerful people did not want him talking.
I am the absolute furthest from a conspiracy theorist in general, but with this one?
February 26th, 2021 at 1:43 AM ^
Well you sound a lot like a conspiracy theorist
February 25th, 2021 at 7:59 PM ^
3 Things that don’t hang themselves:
1) Drywall
2) Christmas decorations
3) Jeffery Epstein
February 26th, 2021 at 1:55 AM ^
Yeah there’s no way that a guy who had previously tried to kill himself, knew he was in for a lifetime of abuse and coercion in prison (and was already experiencing that in pretrial lockup) and who reorganized his estate right before his death actually killed himself. Of course it’s possible that he was murders but the likelihood is extremely small
I have news for you about the criminal justice system and it may make you sad. BOP, state prisons and local jails don’t give a fuck if their inmates live or die. This shit is normal
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/596029/
Yes, and guards magically disappear at the exact same time the cameras are shut off. Jesus christ, some of you people really do exist. Then again you linked an article from the atlantic, so i shouldn't be surprised.
February 25th, 2021 at 4:53 PM ^
Enjoy hell
February 25th, 2021 at 5:00 PM ^
Although closure can be cathartic sometimes we just don't get it and those who deserve to face justice take the cowardly way out. His victims have been through enough so hopefully Nasser in jail for life suffices for what these men took from them.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:00 PM ^
Good. Too bad he waited so long. Like maybe 40 years.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:03 PM ^
...and our tax dollars don't have to pay for his incarceration.
February 25th, 2021 at 6:39 PM ^
Just the incineration. Is that too dark? It is? Excellent.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:01 PM ^
The whole thing is tragic for all the lives that he ruined or that he helped Nassar ruin. I feel for the victims not just for what they endured, but also for the fact that they will never have the closure of seeing Geddert brought to justice for his crimes.
(Though if you believe in a hell, perhaps it's of some comfort that there must be a special place there for people like this guy)
February 25th, 2021 at 5:16 PM ^
never have the closure of seeing Geddert brought to justice for his crimes
This particular mode of thought is absolute bullshit. Unless you know one of the victims and have talked to her since receiving news of Geddert's death, you have absolutely no clue what does and what does not bring closure to any of them. For some victims, there may be "closure" in seeing a conviction and knowing that some humanly punishment has been imposed. For others, even relatives of murder victims in death penalty jurisdictions have expressed frustration over a lack of closure even after an execution. "Closure" is little more than a victim's ability to fully grieve whatever wound they've received. Perhaps seeing some justice meted out helps, perhaps not. Perhaps hearing about an abuser committing suicide helps, perhaps not. But good on you for sanctimoniously dancing on the grave of a reviled person before the body's cold on behalf of the victims.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:49 PM ^
The thing that's seemed to work best was what Aquilina did in the Nassar case. Just let all the victims speaking for as long as they feel like they need to, confront him, and express whatever needs to be expressed.
February 25th, 2021 at 6:55 PM ^
Well said.
Everyone process grief and trauma on their own terms, in their own way, and on their own time frame. As a lawyer who has represented people on all types of cases (including defending against horrible criminal charges and representing victims of horrible criminal acts seeking justice both criminally and civilly), I can safely say that verdicts (long sentences and lots of money, respectively) do not necessarily bring people closer to healing or a sense of justice.
I counsel my clients to not expect justice or healing from court, but feel blessed if it in any way helps. Money does help as it provides access to quality therapy and the freedom to address the issues head on, but even the best therapy doesn't necessarily resolve trauma, certainly not on any predictable schedule. Some clients have expressed experiencing further trauma re-living the events, some feel empowered. There is really no way to predict, and some clients have expressed deep dissatisfaction with verdicts in their favor, great disappointment that they did not help in the way they had hoped.
We are just now beginning to scratch the surface on understanding trauma and its effects, and what we thought we used to "know" really has not played out in the literature and practical experience.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:11 PM ^
Attached is a link that describes the charges against him in more detail. After an initial skim, it appears that the AG was advancing a novel legal theory with respect to the human trafficking charges. The first image that comes to mind when we hear human trafficking is child prostitution. That wasn't the theory being offered here. Instead, the AG was apparently alleging that he was forcing his gymnasts to compete out of state, sometimes while injured, and then taking pocketing the cash prizes through his business. Regardless what you think of him, Nassar, their connection, and the viability of the other charges, this is a fascinating theory.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:26 PM ^
In these situations, where cowards take their own lives before the victims can have their day in court, I've always been an advocate of allowing said victims (or their families) to take a big fat shit on the corpse of said coward before the casket is closed.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:28 PM ^
Peace out, you POS.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:39 PM ^
Fucking coward.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:44 PM ^
Hopefully it was slow and he suffered.
February 25th, 2021 at 5:45 PM ^
I hope he dies...
February 25th, 2021 at 6:14 PM ^
This seems to be the common escape route for these guys, and it's disgusting. They spent years ignoring abuses of others, watching these young men and women suffer, and when even the inkling of real punishment starts to pick up they can't handle it and commit suicide. There's a special place in hell for people like that.
February 25th, 2021 at 6:31 PM ^
At Thursday’s news conference, Nessel accused Michigan State University of “stonewalling” her investigation by refusing to release 6,000 pages of documents the school’s lawyers have said are covered by attorney-client privilege.
“I find it unconscionable that the university would stonewall an investigation that it requested,” said Nessel, who implored the university’s board of trustees to release the documents during her news conference.
In a brief statement, Michigan State board chair Dianne Byrum said trustees would “discuss the issue further in the coming weeks.”
wow. what a piece of shit school. i hate sparty even more now
February 25th, 2021 at 8:20 PM ^
What a pussy. I hope he has fun burning in hell.
February 25th, 2021 at 9:35 PM ^
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