OT: Coastal Carolina-BYU: Game of the Year
For the past 3 1/2 hours we witnessed a football game which reminds us what college football is all about. I have not seen two teams compete at the level I saw these two teams compete today. You would have thought this was Michigan-OSU or The Iron Bowl with how chippy it was.
Absolute respect to both BYU and Coastal Carolina’s programs and Administration. These teams were pretty much guaranteed undefeated regular seasons. Instead of taking that, they agreed to play each other just 48 hours prior to kickoff.
It was great to watch these two teams compete. Zach Wilson is a baller, and the Chanticleers could possibly pave their way to being the new Boise St.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:04 PM ^
Very impressive drive by BYU to even have a shot at scoring at the end of the game. Michigan wouldn't have even made it to their own 30, but I digress.
I have no idea what Jamey Chadwell's life/coach story is but I would have to imagine he just put himself squarely in the coaching carousel this off-season.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:51 PM ^
Chadwell would not be a culture fit at Michigan, you can definitely eliminate him from any consideration. He'd be perfect in the SEC though.
His background check would pop red flags galore
December 5th, 2020 at 10:21 PM ^
Care to elaborate on that?
He's a two-time FCS National Coach of the Year finalist and three-time Big South Coach of the Year. He led the Charleston Southern to two conference titles, as well as the NCAA Division I FCS Championship Playoffs twice.
He's 43. A former quarterback and super cerebral. He slapped together a bunch of misfits and cast offs including a 5'9" center and a 3 star QB that could go in the second round, and just outplayed a legitimate 9-0 top 15 ranked team - mostly in the trenches.
The Chanticleers are for real.
Talk about a guy that is doing more with less. While he might be an SEC guy I'd love to hear the nature of these 'red flags galore'
December 5th, 2020 at 10:27 PM ^
Care to do a little research on the guy? A quick Google search of Charleston Southern will give people who ignorantly negged the comment a little background on the guy.
December 6th, 2020 at 5:24 PM ^
You can't throw out allegations about a guy having a negative background, the tell people to research it after they ask you to elaborate. Support what you're saying or don't say it at all.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:38 PM ^
Recruiting violations. He was suspended for them by the school. His team also had many players suspended for other impermissible benefits.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:45 PM ^
Based off some of the comments that seems like something people don't have a problem with. This board has become toxic af
December 6th, 2020 at 5:38 AM ^
I mean, they want Urban Meyer to come here. The coach that almost got fired from our biggest rival, remember?
December 5th, 2020 at 10:49 PM ^
I mean, you can just check out his Wikipedia page which highlights the key issues. Here's the relevant parts:
In 2018, the NCAA released a detailed report concerning numerous NCAA violations that occurred during Chadwell’s tenure as the CSU head football coach. The violations ranged from using multiple ineligible players to players using scholarship funds to purchase electronics and jewelry from the campus book store. Ultimately, the NCAA sanctions vacated 18 wins from the 2014 and 2015 seasons and the 2015 Big South Championship. Also vacated were three wins over crosstown rival The Citadel, games during which CSU used ineligible players.
Again, I'm all for giving people second chances but that happened 2 years ago and Michigan isn't going to touch a guy with such significant and recent sanctions. And honestly, I wouldn't blame them.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:40 AM ^
Maybe your math is different than mine but if the incidents occurred in 2015 wouldn't that make it 5 years ago, not 2?
And again if you peel back the layer of the onion the problem was much more of a Charleston Southern issue than poor Jamey Chadwell ethics.
They had incidents dating back to 2011 long before Chadwell got there. They had 55 athletes commit violations across 12 sports. They forfeited basketball and softball titles as well.
The football team also played in the 2016 championship game that wasn't vacated.
Also after the violations were made public a new AD was brought in to clean house and didn't remove Chadwell.
One prof. cost the school 1o mil on a ponzi scheme. The shenanigans at CSU are far more a systemic issue than on Chadwell.
December 6th, 2020 at 10:37 AM ^
The NCAA ruling came down in 2018, so that (to me at least) is the number people will remember. Yes, the violations occurred in 2014 and 2015, but I sorta doubt that distinction matters to a ton of people. My point is he didn't break some rules in 2005 and has had a spotless record since.
You seem to know more about the inner workings of Coastal Carolina than I do, so if it's truly the case that he was a victim of circumstance so be it. I'd argue that if you're the HC at a program and violations go on for a couple of years while you're there, that's on you, even if they started before you showed up. And an AD keeping around a winning football coach while "cleaning house" of other, less-important people isn't uncommon.
Regardless, a jump from CSU to UM isn't in the cards, and the fact we're trying to parse out the culpability of someone when there are dozens of equal or better-qualified individuals without this baggage is why it won't happen.
December 6th, 2020 at 10:37 AM ^
Charleston Southern's team name is the Buccaneers, which appears to be totally on brand.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:52 AM ^
Can't control his own team. He is disqualified from any distinguished job.
December 6th, 2020 at 9:25 AM ^
If I may say this as both a fan and alumnus, I think that part of the problem in the past - when we've been faced with having to make changes - is this idea of it being a "distinguished job" that demands people of some requisite character very difficult to find in the most competitive circles of Division I Football. Ours is a great job, and it is still potentially a destination job for someone, but we have to be careful with words like "distinguished" because the implied stuffiness is perhaps going to impose limits on the thinking of some and unnecessarily at that.
Now, I wouldn't have even thought Chadwell for a lot of other reasons, but what I am trying to get away from here is the tired old train of thought that could be problematic if we do in fact find ourselves looking for a new coach at some point.
December 5th, 2020 at 11:02 PM ^
I'm in a bad place with Michigan football when this piqued my curiosity.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:54 PM ^
Enough ignorant negging of BigMeech. I mentioned Chadwell awhile back as a potential candidate BECAUSE of his widely known ability to run a dirty program (Dirty program vastly superior to clean program). My parents are Coastal baseball season ticket holders and have been for years (World Series was a fun year) and live a few minutes from campus, so I tend to follow the school. The guy is an interesting coach if you want to go football factory.
I agree it is a 0% chance he is the new M coach, but lay off Meech as he is correct.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:06 PM ^
Great game. Props to Coastal Carolina.
Game of the year?.... No.
December 6th, 2020 at 6:29 AM ^
But Espn said it was the "game of the year".
It was a great game to watch and hats off to both schools for getting it on the schedule just a few days ago. Two undefeated teams, 2200 miles apart. Just really cool all the way around.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:27 PM ^
Both teams well coaches, I’m confused? Oh that’s right I’ve watched too much of Michigan football lately.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:59 PM ^
"I have not seen two teams compete at the level I saw these two teams compete today."
Hyperbole much? It was a good game. But game of the year? Iron Bowl/The Game level chippiness?
Man. Talk about a prisoner of the moment. I think a good amount of fans present, bringing energy, also has a lot to do with the perception of that particular game.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:21 PM ^
The way CCU was pushing and shoving after every play, you would think Zach Wilson broke the BYU honor code with all of their moms.
And I meant to reference that I haven’t seen two teams compete at that level this season.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:57 PM ^
It was! And coastal would kick the living shit out of Michigan
December 5th, 2020 at 11:59 PM ^
Haven’t seen the highlights yet. Was busy watching Cal upset Oregon.
ROLL ON YOU BEARS!!!!
edit: Tightwad Hill is relatively unknown. But is one of the best places in the United States to watch a football game for free.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:53 AM ^
We want to win but we don't want an asshole coach who clearly can't control his players.
December 6th, 2020 at 8:05 AM ^
December 6th, 2020 at 2:54 AM ^
Hire the Carolina coach ASAP!
December 6th, 2020 at 8:45 AM ^
It would be nice if they could schedule each other next year and beyond. College football could use a fresh new rivalry game.
December 6th, 2020 at 11:03 AM ^
December 6th, 2020 at 2:16 PM ^
Yeah - saw the two Coastal Carolina guys pounding on the BYU QB. The ref had to break it - yet did not throw a flag. They should have been tossed.
December 6th, 2020 at 2:23 PM ^
That last play. Just friggin wow.. What an ending to an unbelievable game
December 6th, 2020 at 4:57 PM ^
Like clock work. As soon as mid level teams starts whining about getting in the playoffs, they lose?