OSU slappy Kevin Schwarzel part of officiating crew tomorrow?

Submitted by Hotel Putingrad on November 26th, 2021 at 6:45 PM

Unconfirmed reports flying around social media that the guy caught patting Mike Weber's butt in the 2016 hijacking is a part of tomorrow's crew.

So much for getting a fair shake if true.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MichiganWolverines/comments/r2xau6/in_baffling_news_the_infamous_kevin_schwartzel/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[Ed-Seth: I took down two threads already that shared unsourced rumors and then got the information wildly wrong. Leaving this up because it at least came with a link to where he heard it from. I'm surprised you guys think Schwarzel is the only Michigan-hating ref in the Big Ten.]

atticusb

November 26th, 2021 at 10:53 PM ^

She says B1G considers this their "best crew"...?!? What an AMAZING statement on how absolutely fucking atrocious ref'ing is in this conference.  How many signs with this fuckeye fanboi butt slapping Mike Webber on them can we get printed in time for gameday and the game tomorrow?

M Squared

November 27th, 2021 at 8:33 AM ^

Personally, I don't think the conference is rigging anything.  I just don't think the conference is sufficiently sophisticated to pull off that level of organizational conspiracy. 

I do think, however, that there is deep-seated animosity toward Michigan among various personnel, and it is leading to certain improper actions.  That 2016 game was among the most horrifically officiated games that I have ever seen, and it was not within the standard deviation of run of the mill incompetence. 

I see people commenting in other parts of the Web that Michigan can overcome bad officiating simply with willpower but it's near impossible to do so against a good team.  Offensive holding kills drives and defensive PI or defensive holding (and therefore automatic first downs) dramatically increase the probability of scoring drives.  It cannot be simply overcome.

Seth

November 27th, 2021 at 9:22 AM ^

It doesn't take much. The Big Ten isn't a massive organization. There've been a lot of stories about Kevin Warren in the last few years where Michigan people notice he seems to have a strong anti-Michigan bias or "has a deaf ear" when Michigan needs something. The negotiations to move the MSU home/away thing back were really difficult, where Michigan felt they were asking for things that are completely fair and reasonable and Warren seemed to only care about what MSU wanted "since we all know what Michigan wants." People in the box during this year's MSU game reported that he agreed with the overturn on Hutchinson's TD and showed other signs of having a personal preference for MSU winning.

That's not an "OMG CONSPIRACY" thing. Everyone who works in sports has biases, and every college football fan knows who they're rooting for in any game. No matter who's in charge of the Big Ten, they're going to be sports fans, and since most of the Big Ten hates Michigan, odds are high that a lot of people with unconscious biases against Michigan are going to be in important roles at the Big Ten.

Their bigger problem has been Sabau, who was Ohio State de facto AD (officially 2nd in command) during the Urban Meyer years and is now Kevin Warren's #2. The head of officials reports to her, and when you get a quote about how the Big Ten believes these are their best refs, 10 to 1 "The Big Ten" means Sabau. She's very open about her Ohio State biases and very involved in decisions like this one.

She and the two directors of officiating, Tony Buyinski and Brenda Hilton, are big "People need to be nice to refs!" folks who often reference Schembechler (but not Woody) as the case example of coaches who normalized ref-hating. Hilton founded "Officially Human" (or "OH" for short), which is not controversial--you should treat refs as human, and the kind of abuse that the organization focuses on is the kind of stuff that nobody should consider appropriate. Unfortunately for Michigan, I think that these people associate the thing they hate most with Michigan, that these are old and deeply embedded associations that we can't really undo, and that this creates a feedback loop where they are less receptive to Michigan's concerns about officiating, which then increases how often Michigan gets boned by the officiating, which reinforces the Big Ten's sense that Michigan is awful to officials, etc.

I don't think it's outlandish or weird or even surprising that unevil biases in a small organization can create a systemic issue for one class. I think Michigan is in a bad spot because they can't really do anything about how the fans react to the consistently bad whistle that Michigan sports teams receive, and these people are not going to be turned around on how they think. It's not a simple matter of "FIRE SABAU!" or whatever--that sort of thing would only exacerbate the problem. What we should do is be the program advocating for professionalizing officiating and working to change this perception of Michigan among a few key people as an extension of Bo (like removing the statue of him that is literally taken from a photo of him about berate a ref). A simple thing like having their coaches shoot a PSA for Officially Human and playing it in-stadium could go a long way towards breaking the feedback loop we're in.

thespacepope

November 27th, 2021 at 9:49 AM ^

I don’t know that professionalizing will solve the problem.

It would be rather expensive to make these people full time.

I believe there are 7 on field refs in a football game plus the replay plus a backup. So that is about 9 refs per game. There are 7 B1G games per weekend. Assume you pay each of these people $100,000  per year in base alone (which hardly seems like enough but I am being conservative) plus another 30% in benefits. The cost for just the cheapest full-time football refs is then $130,000 per ref x 9 refs x 7 games = $8.19M per season. Then add in the extra training, travel, etc. it won’t be cheap to have full time refs unless I misunderstand the full time ref proposal. Then do some similar math for the a few big dollar sports like MBB, hockey, and WBB.
 

Then consider that $100,000 is not really enough since most refs have pretty good paying jobs outside of reffing. So you probably have to pay closer to $200,000 each (closer to $16M per year) unless you want all of the good refs to leave for the SEC or ACC and then you get left with the people who are willing to ref on the cheap and might be even worse than what we have. I am also pretty sure that the powers that be don’t want to pay the refs a dollar more than they have to because it is taking money away from the schools and B1G.

Eng1980

November 26th, 2021 at 6:49 PM ^

If the athletic department had its act together that man would never be allowed in the stadium.  That requirement should have been filed with the Big 10 years ago.  I was under the assumption that such a motion had already been filed.

Edit: To upvote Seth's comment.  Reasonable moderating with a plus comment.

mGrowOld

November 26th, 2021 at 7:14 PM ^

If true Harbaugh should tell the B1G tonight that unless the OSU fan boy is replaced we're not taking the field tomorrow.  Then go on TV tomorrow and tell the world why we aren't taking the field if they refuse.

You want a shitstorm B1G officials?  We'll be happy to oblige.

UMForLife

November 26th, 2021 at 9:30 PM ^

The audacity of this conference to screw us over and over again with us doing squat is unbelievable. It is like 2016 didn't happen. What the fuck is our AD and people alike doing? If they can't protect our product what is he there for? Reduce Harbaugh's salary? I blame us for not having the guts to go after B1G.

mGrowOld

November 26th, 2021 at 10:14 PM ^

And by "us" you mean Warde.  Harbaugh DID go after the B1G back in 16 but our brave AD sided with the league and left Jimmy out to dry.

Can you imagine if the tables were turned and OSU lost in 16 thanks in no small part to the efforts of a pro-Michigan official and he was assigned to the game tomorrow?  I guarantee you Gene Smith would've already held a press conference blasting the league, blasting the league officiating department and would be DEMANDING he be removed immediately.

Don

November 27th, 2021 at 9:16 AM ^

I've said previously that the conference's decision to let Capron and Schwarzel officiate in 2016 in the first place was suggestive of the BIG's desire to put its thumb on the officiating scale in favor of Ohio State. Some have derided this as conspiratorial thinking.

At the minimum, the fact that Senior Director of Officiating Brenda Hilton doesn't care about how bad the optics are with this decision is clear evidence of the Big Ten's open contempt for Michigan. 

Hail to the Vi…

November 26th, 2021 at 10:33 PM ^

I literally don't understand it. The league told him he is not permitted to work the Ohio State game's given that he is from Ohio and is a self proclaimed Ohio State fan!!

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2016/11/29/official-under-scrutiny-also-worked-um-osu-2008-2015/94604246/

If this shit dick even remotely shows any questionable calls in Ohio State's favor he's going to need a security detail to get out of Ann Arbor. The B1G office is either actively issuing the fix themselves, or they are so incompetent they don't even understand just how terrible and tone deaf the optics of this look.

 

Golden section

November 26th, 2021 at 7:23 PM ^

In 2016, OSU was the was penalized team in the Big Ten averaging 70 yards and 8 penalties a game. In The Game they were penalized twice - once when an Olineman jumped so egregiously it couldn't not be called and a defensive hold that cost  them a yard. 

The Big Ten admitted to 3 blown calls all in OSU's favour. One was a mugging of a receiver at the line which followed an OSU drive that was extended by a lame PI call against Michigan. A second was another defensive hold and a 3rd was when Weber flatted Hudson 5 seconds after the play was blown dead. That happened tight in front of Schwarzel.

Those were the ones they admitted. There were a host of other calls that should have been called they just didn't fess up. One was a hold on Butt all the way into the endzone that would have led to a touchdown instead of a field-goal. 

For Michigan, Harbaugh gets tagged for 15, 2.5 x the total number of yards the most undisciplined team in the Big Ten was assessed the entire game, for tossing his clipboard.

They just looked really biased.

I really hope it's just a rumour.

Hail to the Vi…

November 26th, 2021 at 11:18 PM ^

This is just basic, common sense best practices. If you have any affiliation or publicly known vested interest towards a certain school there is no way in hell you should be permitted to officiate a game in which that program is a participant. This is just basic fraud mitigation procedure. I have a hard time believing the B1G is actively fixing a game against their largest revenue producing athletic department, but I also have a hard time believing they are so aloof and incompetent that it did not occur to them assigning this clown to The Game is egregiously inappropriate. It's really perplexing.

This ass clown was honored at halftime of an Ohio State game for being inducted into the Ohio football hall of fame! How in the world can the B1G office say to Warde Manuel with a straight face "this is the best crew available" for this game? I'm not sure if Warde needs to grow a pair of nuts, but it almost seems like a dereliction of duty to simply accept the league's response on this. I'll wait to see how it pans out, but simply accepting an inadequate answer on this would be an incredibly weak exhibit of leadership. Warde needs to support his coach and his program, and he needs to be vocal about this until he gets some answers from the league that make sense. 

ILL_Legel

November 26th, 2021 at 11:30 PM ^

It is super basic conflict of interest stuff.  On one hand, it is baffling that the Big 10 doesn’t seem to have a basic conflict of interest.  On the other hand, there is so much corruption in sports it is not a surprise.

My teenage kids tell me not to worry about it because football is a dinosaur that probably won’t survive much longer than I live.  They are real little rays of light my kids.  I counter that e-sports is even more corrupt.  I guess corruption makes the world go round.  It all makes me a little sick.

Fuck Ohio State!

DetroitBlue

November 26th, 2021 at 8:07 PM ^

How reliable is Chris Balas?I know he’s broken some (correct) news in the past, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s right more often than wrong. So, how worried should we be (beyond the standard anxiety/worry/terror that comes with having to square up with the great satan)?

Quailman

November 26th, 2021 at 8:08 PM ^

Seth, I get locking and leaving this one up because it has a source, but that "source" is a Reddit post that has also been locked by its moderators.