Ohio State's recruiting class isn't looking too strong this season...any reasons?
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2010&School=56
They have eight four stars committed, but only 13 players total (4 3-stars, 1 2-star). Currently ranked 20th on rivals (we are 14th, pre-christian).
The last few seasons its seemed like they've been a lock to bring in 20-25 4-stars. what's the deal down there?
November 26th, 2009 at 3:10 PM ^
They have fewer scholarships to give out. There is also 3 months until signing day, so they have plenty of time.
November 26th, 2009 at 3:22 PM ^
yeah they have limited numbers this year, also they're being very careful on who they offer. There are many highly rated players still considering them
November 26th, 2009 at 4:35 PM ^
Their class is small but solid. The per player star rating average is pretty high.
November 26th, 2009 at 3:14 PM ^
Looks like OP is looking to set record for most threads started in a day; hmm maybe I should play this game and try and beat him...
November 26th, 2009 at 3:20 PM ^
Looks like we are at three right now. I'll set the O/U at 6.5.
November 26th, 2009 at 9:30 PM ^
I'd take the under. He seems to be a posting madman as a few weeks ago he had 100 points and now approaches 500, but 6 threads is quite a bit of crap to spew at the board on one day.
November 26th, 2009 at 10:09 PM ^
I think he is trying to brake the record...a record he actually holds, and has broken several times the last few days.
November 26th, 2009 at 11:10 PM ^
He is not driving a car. *break
November 26th, 2009 at 3:20 PM ^
Last Year's BigTen Recruiting Numbers - 11/29
At this time last year, OSU had 24 commits
Star Ratings
| Stars | #Players |
|---|---|
| 5*s | 1 |
| 4*s | 15 |
| 3*s | 8 |
November 26th, 2009 at 3:25 PM ^
last year was a bit of a special case though, they're normally in better shape than they are currently but last year they were on an entirely different level than nearly every school
November 26th, 2009 at 3:27 PM ^
OSU likely won't have 25 scholarships to offer, so it makes sense they're going much slower this year.
November 26th, 2009 at 3:37 PM ^
yeah exactly
November 26th, 2009 at 3:23 PM ^
Sorry to nitpick, but I think we're 14 post-Christian. And it seems every few years tOSU has a smaller class because they don't have enough room for a full class.
November 26th, 2009 at 3:23 PM ^
Recruits don't feel inspired to play for a team that doesn't play to win but rather plays not to lose.
November 26th, 2009 at 3:29 PM ^
Only 8 4 stars? That's awful.
November 26th, 2009 at 3:30 PM ^
Right, we have like 17 4-stars, right?
November 26th, 2009 at 10:57 PM ^
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
November 27th, 2009 at 9:14 AM ^
I know he was being sarcastic. I was playing along with the joke. Now you had to go and ruin my carefully crafted humor.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:15 PM ^
Yeah, but usually you're sarcastic only towards those who are dumb, typically you don't just play along. Perhaps there's hope for you after all Chitown.
November 26th, 2009 at 3:53 PM ^
to pay off players. Sounds about right.
November 26th, 2009 at 4:14 PM ^
A cliched debut, but a debut nonetheless. Welcome to the Board. Happy Thanksgiving.
November 26th, 2009 at 5:09 PM ^
Good news, any way you look at it.
November 26th, 2009 at 5:40 PM ^
Seantrel Henderson, Sharrif Floyd, Lamarcus Joyner, Latwan Anderson, Christian Bryant.
November 26th, 2009 at 7:56 PM ^
Marlo Stanfield
November 26th, 2009 at 7:32 PM ^
They're gonna get Lamarcus Joyner (unanimous five star) and more than likely Latwan Anderson too (rivals.com five star). Sharrif Floyd's also giving them a good hard look. They can recruit however well they want, they still can't develop talent for shit (see TP)
November 26th, 2009 at 7:47 PM ^
Right, because, you know, Ohio State has put more players in the NFL than Michigan has this decade. OSU develops its talent well, but its conservative offense scheme doesn't allow it's players to truly showcase their talents (e.g. Pryor). OSU will be the king for at least another year in the Big Ten.
November 26th, 2009 at 7:52 PM ^
You are absolutely right that OSU has put out a ton of talent to the NFL. There is one area that OSU has been piss poor in developing and that's at the QB position. But other than that, it's been a hot bed of excellent talent with exception of bust Vernon Gholston.
November 26th, 2009 at 11:15 PM ^
didn't they have a quarterback that won some trophy or something the year we went into "The Game" undefeated and lost? (06 if my memory serves me correctly)
November 27th, 2009 at 8:09 AM ^
as to what Troy Smith has done in the NFL to this point? I think that is what is being discussed since they are talking about developing NFL talent, no?
November 27th, 2009 at 9:17 AM ^
If Troy Smith wasn't 5'10" standing on a phonebook, he probably would have been much more highly regarded by the NFL. And to claim that turning a kid into a Heisman winner doesn't count as "developing him" seems like a stretch.
November 27th, 2009 at 10:21 AM ^
The fact is, he is 5'10" and the discussion is developing NFL talent, not Heisman talent. Two very different things IME (how many Heisman winners never turn out to be superstars in the NFL).
November 27th, 2009 at 11:38 AM ^
Oh christ. They said that Pryor wouldn't be a good player because "OSU couldn't develop talent at QB." They developed a three-star "athlete" into a Heisman Winner. They can develop QB talent. You can split hairs about NFL or NCAA all your want.
November 27th, 2009 at 11:40 AM ^
He realized his misunderstanding a little further down the thread.
November 27th, 2009 at 11:41 AM ^
Whoooops. Sorry.
November 27th, 2009 at 1:23 AM ^
enamored with ted ginn jr either at the dolphins. he might not be a "bust" yet but he's not looking like a top10 pick.
November 27th, 2009 at 2:35 PM ^
It's not Ohio State's fault that Ginn wears invisible oversized oven mitts during games. Ginn was drafted for his speed. He's still fast. If the Dolphins had spent ten minutes watching game tape, they would have realized that Ginn was a kick returner who moonlighted as a receiver. His inability to catch is not based on Ohio State's poor development.
If you're looking for good OSU receivers in the NFL, see Santonio Holmes, Anthony Gonzalez, and Brian Hartline.
November 26th, 2009 at 8:32 PM ^
What I mean is they got a player with an extraordinary amount of talent dropped in their lap in Pryor and he has difficulty doing the simplest of things now. Whether he fits the offense or not has no effect on whether or not he can get a 10 yard pass on the money. What I'm saying is his passing ability has probably regressed since high school.
November 26th, 2009 at 7:48 PM ^
Yeah, it's not like Troy Smith developed under Tressel.
November 26th, 2009 at 11:05 PM ^
BUT, does "developed" = collegiate success only? Or does it = collegiate and NFL success? If it's the latter, then M has developed substantially more QB's than OSU. If the former, then OSU looks better, but still not quite as good as M in regards purely to QB's.
I'd probably give OSU the nod for over-all talent development based solely on my memory and perspective; though it'd be interesting to see some solid and thorough research to either confirm or refute that notion. Unfortunately I don't have to time, anyone else up for the task?
November 27th, 2009 at 9:22 AM ^
Troy Smith's low draft position has NOTHING to do with his ability - it's no secret that the NFL, for good reason, has a large bias against small QB's - it's why the Chargers just let Brees walk for an unproven QB after he had even proven he could play. Smith, at OSU, was listed at 5'11" (shorter than the NFL lists him) and that was even likely a lie.
Further, Smith, as a 5th round pick, was actually supposed to be the Ravens' starting QB last year before he got a bizarre case of tonsilitis that actually kept him out for 7 weeks.
November 28th, 2009 at 5:42 PM ^
I don't care about draft position, fact is he hasn't done jack in the NFL. Flacco is good, but better than Smith? I guess the coaches think so. Is that bias against being short? Perhaps, I can't be certain. Perhaps there's some politics in there as well being that Flacco was their 1st round pick (if I remember right). Whatever it is, at this point Smith hasn't even been an average NFL QB, the reasons are irrelevant because I think truly great players will be on the field when all is said and done.
November 27th, 2009 at 8:13 AM ^
with a statement regarding the number of NFLers that OSU "develops". Then switched to specifically the QB position. They are talking about the way each school develops NFL talent at the QB position. Troy Smith does not factor into this discussion as a positive for OSU, rather a good example of how they can't develop NFL talent at QB.
November 27th, 2009 at 10:01 AM ^
They can recruit however well they want, they still can't develop talent for shit (see TP)This is where this discussion started, and that obviously has NOTHING to do with the NFL as his example is Pryor.
November 27th, 2009 at 10:23 AM ^
There are so many posts talking about similar things that I guess I followed the wrong line of progression. I thought we had moved on to QB NFL talent with "Big Pussy's" post.
November 26th, 2009 at 7:50 PM ^
because with out a solid QB that can throw, OSU is going to have problems as they don't have any other highly rated QB coming in and hardly any depth at the position. Now, that's not to mean that the other not as highly rated QBs can't end up becoming a weapon but they have put all their eggs in one basket with TP
November 26th, 2009 at 8:42 PM ^
I don't know,
I think SEC defenses are
already trembling
at the name "Bauserman"
November 26th, 2009 at 9:45 PM ^
well played there
November 26th, 2009 at 8:36 PM ^
I wouldn't really bet on all that if I was you
November 26th, 2009 at 8:57 PM ^
#14 is post-cullen
we were #17 pre-cullen