New NCAA Proposal regarding Compensation for Athletes

Submitted by The Mayor on December 5th, 2023 at 10:11 AM

The title speaks for itself. It seems maybe Jim has rattled enough cafes to get the conversation started.

it appears Baker is trying to be proactive here in starting a new Division of Schools that can rewrite rules regarding compensation and also staff, scholarships, etc.


 

https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-proposing-new-college-athletics-subdivision-rooted-in-direct-athlete-compensation-145051537.html

DaftPunk

December 5th, 2023 at 10:24 AM ^

Since taking over as president in March, Baker has noted the variance of his schools and conferences, describing traditional, education-driven universities as the “95 percent” while the other 5 percent (those in FBS and/or Power Five) as revenue-producing, football-geared giants.

 

BlueinKyiv

December 5th, 2023 at 10:47 AM ^

Yet to see an actual proposal that would work for even the wealthiest power 5 school.  

The football team is a small share of scholar-athletes on campus and even paying minimum wage plus typical student costs per student with administrative oversight would run more $100 million dollars for the 1,000 student athletes at a typical power 5 school.  

But how happy would a 5-star football recruit be with getting the same $15 and hour job as the field hockey walk-on?

You can't keep opening new Pandora's boxes and expect its a solution.

softshoes

December 5th, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^

Jesus Christ, we have a rule that forbids advanced scouting because the little guy couldn't afford it.

Now, let's have a rule that will most certainly exclude the little guys. This is not even a stopgap. 

Vasav

December 5th, 2023 at 12:35 PM ^

At michigan, there are 1150 scholarship athletes. So $30k/athlete would come to ~$34.5M. 1/2 would go to female athletics.

I'm guessing you will see a reduction in scholarship athletes at some of these schools away from basketball and football and an effort to get more of the championship rounds onto TV. This is still a good thing, but I wonder if some sort of football/basketball carve out wouldn't be more amenable to the majority of athletes on campus.

MichiganiaMan

December 5th, 2023 at 12:44 PM ^

Imo, this exacerbates the appalling “modern day slavery” issue. Predominantly Black football and basketball players carry these ADs on their back, generating all the revenue. So now honoring that truth requires creating trust funds for predominantly white women’s soccer and tennis athletes? This is sick.

mblue1221

December 5th, 2023 at 12:46 PM ^

This is NCAA looking to gain power back that they lost. Would be hesitant to join anything NCAA is in charge of. As eventually they will want more control/regulation.

Matte Kudasai

December 5th, 2023 at 1:04 PM ^

So it essentially would pave the way to legalize what NIL has become - Fake guaranteed NIL deals and enticements if I am understanding it correctly.

Basically pay to play but legal.

As many have stated in the past, it will probably lead to 1 30 team super conference.

 

Amazinblu

December 5th, 2023 at 1:22 PM ^

Could some of the solution be -

1. A "base" for all student athletes - male and female - equal, 

2. With an additional amount - based on a given sports contribution (a formula / amount to be determined), and

3. NIL monies which would be additional to the above.

JSK23

December 5th, 2023 at 2:17 PM ^

This is going to happen eventually someday with the top two conferences and maybe a few other schools, I don't see any positive with it happening under the NCAA's umbrella. 

AMazinBlue

December 5th, 2023 at 2:29 PM ^

NIL is pay for play, let's be honest. Somehow this needs to be regulated. There has to be a cap so there is some parity and the handful of schools with the wealthiest billionaire boosters don't get all the talent. Once NIL came into being you saw how Clemson didn't have the biggest advantage any longer, Georgia caught Bama.  If there's a cap that the top 20-30 programs can work with then it won't be the same 4-5 schools winning every year.  The SEC have the best funded programs in the country.  If this doesn't get capped then we'll be right back were we were 5-10 years ago.

Amazinblu

December 5th, 2023 at 5:48 PM ^

Brown bagging isn't going to end.   There will still be "off the record" contributions to specific parties.   It's beyond "out of control" - the NCAA is just trying to limit their losses.

This paragraph caught my eye - and, the figure - $3B in retroactive recovery.   That's what's motivating the NCAA.

"The model is introduced as the NCAA and major conference schools are in the midst of settlement negotiations over what could be one of the most costly and impactful antitrust cases in college sports history. House v. NCAA, seeking as much as $3 billion in retroactive NIL and broadcasting revenue payments, is the latest lawsuit expected to chip away at the NCAA’s bedrock of amateurism."

ca_prophet

December 5th, 2023 at 6:28 PM ^

The current NIL world does not run afoul of Title IX because it is not a university benefit.  Neither is it administered by an organization run by the universities (e.g. B1G, NCAA).  The "Wild West" aspect is actually a benefit here.

UofM's goals are also not the NCAA's goals.  They want to remain relevant and in control so they can continue to syphon money off football (and basketball).  The UofM's goal should be to redirect the TV money and athletic revenue to the student-athletes (and away from any bloat/corruption in the athletic department).

Towards that end, I think Michigan should establish a fund to provide free lifetime medical care for all graduated student-athletes.  It would not impact Title IX, and probably doesn't require anybody else to sign off (as it's not a benefit to anyone under the NCAA's jurisdiction).  And it would address the more unsightly aspects of sacrificing the students health to make the University (and everyone except a minority of the athletes) rich.