matt1114

June 23rd, 2021 at 1:44 PM ^

That'd be great. He has a decent offer sheet too. Just seems like many of the schools that offered have other QB commits that they seemingly chose over him. 

Utah took Nate Johnson

Georgia took Gunner Stockton

Auburn has another 4 star. 

 

When I looked through the qb rankings and saw this guy had MSU crystal balls and no UM offer I always wondered why. I'm hoping we can land him, 

matt1114

June 23rd, 2021 at 1:58 PM ^

UPDATE:
Has since picked up 2 more CB's. 

So now we have:

Justin Thind of Michigan State Insider with a 6 confidence

Sam Webb of Michigan Insider with a 7 confidence

Greg Biggins National Recruiting Analyst with a 7

-Update-

Brice Marich with The Michigan Insider in with a 6

Blue In NC

June 23rd, 2021 at 2:41 PM ^

I didn't see any shaming in that post.  Usually there is a little extra bit of good when you take a recruit from a rival.  I know OSU likes it when they manage to take a recruit that was ticketed for Michigan.

As for the scoreboard comment, I don't think many are saying Michigan is on top of the world right now, but it never hurts to laugh at the expense of a rival.  Illinois basketball (they will argue they are a rival) has scoreboard on us but that didn't prevent us from laughing at some of their missteps.  

Broken Brilliance

June 23rd, 2021 at 2:44 PM ^

How long do those who are still fixated on that game (and there are an ass load of them on this board) hold onto that disappointment? Til the next time we win Paul Bunyan? If that's the case, then it won't be long before a Jim Harbaugh coached Michigan team changes that, if history is any indication. I look forward to that excruciating pain ending for you all. Some of us lived through 2008-11 and 2013-15, believe it or not.

NeverPunt

June 23rd, 2021 at 1:57 PM ^

Watching a little of his film I like his arm strength better than Nate Johnson. He seems to be a patient qb who makes throws all over the field. Looks like he has some work to do with mechanics just to get more consistent on his throwing motion but for the 2022 class he looks like he’s be a good get 

JoeMama11

June 23rd, 2021 at 2:02 PM ^

Take this with a grain of salt but I know MSU was all over Denegal at the start of the cycle. Then I heard a few MSU 247 guys saying he was there 3rd QB on there board behind Justyn Martin and Katin Houser. Both are committed elsewhere so I doubt MSU flips either. Also MSU insiders consist of guys like Sean Scherer so I wouldn’t read into it too much. 

MadGatter

June 23rd, 2021 at 5:03 PM ^

Honestly the msu 247 guys are the worst in the business by a mile. They consistently put in crystal ball picks based on the slightest of positive messaging (presumably to generate clicks), flips their crystal ball at the last second when they are proven wrong to artificially keep their prediction high, and then pump out articles where "x 4-5 star recruit has msu in their top 7" as if there is any significance to those lists. 

I understand most of these "recruiting analysts" jobs is injecting hopium in the veins of the fans for money, but the extent that the msu insiders do it is just sad

AZBlue

June 23rd, 2021 at 5:19 PM ^

I think this is true about his order in the QB priority list at MSU.  After their #1 guy went to FSU they were after Nico Marchiol (FSU decommit just committed to WVU) and Katin Houser (BSU commit).  Justin Martyn (sp?) was probably next but they were even slow-playing him a bit....then maybe Denegal.

That is not to say he is a bad pickup.  MSU is searching for potential 3 or 4 year starter given their current roster and M is hoping to find a decent backup option with the potential to become something special........who is also OK being sandwiched between (hopefully) 2 5-star recruits on the roster. 

Denegal fits nicely for what M needs given the available options - (he must have some great measurables given the early high ratings) - and I look forward to what he can do if he chooses to come and work to earn PT wearing the winged helmet.

 

Magnus

June 23rd, 2021 at 2:59 PM ^

I was afraid this would happen.

Michigan put the full-court press on a guy who could run (Nate Johnson), and when they couldn't get him, they offered Denegal. 

It doesn't make much sense to me to bring in Matt Weiss because of his familiarity with Lamar Jackson and the Ravens' running game, but then recruit a QB like Denegal. I was hoping Michigan might go after Zion Turner or Beau Pribula instead.

Magnus

June 23rd, 2021 at 3:13 PM ^

No, he's not much of a runner. That's what I was saying. If you bring in a guy because of his knowledge of the QB run game, it doesn't make much sense to offer a guy like Denegal, who can't run the stuff Lamar Jackson is running. It's like hiring Mike Leach's QB coach and then recruiting Denard Robinson.

Denegal is also a huge project, IMO, with all kinds of issues with mechanics, footwork, etc.

Don

June 23rd, 2021 at 3:26 PM ^

If you bring in a guy because of his knowledge of the QB run game,

Did Harbaugh or anybody else on the staff state this is why Weiss was hired? I can see why it would be a logical assumption, but is that the only QB expertise he brings?

ldevon1

June 23rd, 2021 at 3:55 PM ^

Magnus, don't you think they are in a precarious situation at QB, in that if they go all in for a running QB, you could hurt your wr recruiting? They still haven't shown the ability to pass effectively and spread the ball around for more than 3 games. If all Matt Weiss is good for, is scheming for a running QB, what in the hell are they gonna do with McCarthy?