Mock draft 2010 - Brandon Graham
Every Mock draft for the the NFL in 2010 has Brandon Graham going early 2nd round. He will increase his stock this year I believe.
But this mock draft has Brandon Graham going third overall!
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2009-06-30/nfl-mock-draft-2010-…
Yeah that is not going to happen. Late first or early second is the most likely scenario.
I saw that on the scout forums the other day...I dont think he will go anywhere that early and agree with tomkenic000 that he will be picked late first or early second
but to go top 5, he'd have to blow up this year and at the combines. for comparison, where did woodley go?
Second round.
Early in the 3rd round for BG in next year's NFL draft. His stats will likely take a hit this year as he will be double teamed pretty consistently. He might also be slightly downgraded because he may need to change positions in the NFL to OLB (especially in a 3-4) and teams will be "projecting" his ability at that position rather than going off of his college film at DE.
Then again, I ain't an NFL scout, so what the heck do I really know?
the definition of "Michigan man" according to "Bo's Lasting Lessons"...he stayed after a 3-9 year, with all of his linemates graduting, knowing he may get double teamed, lose stats, and suffer a draft day hit. I really respect him for staying around knowing we didn't have much experience left on the dline other than him! Hopefully, he can be rewarded with a nice NFL Draft Day. I look forward to following his career.
As a side note, a poster on this board, tricks574, was one win away from having to "block" Graham.
If a media outlet says a guy will be drafted high and that guy's own fans disagree, then it definitely won't happen. Graham might go toward the end of the first round - if a team has a need for an undersized DE - but he's not Dwight Freeney or Jevon Kearse. I think he'll be a solid NFL player, but I don't think he'll ever be a guy to gameplan around.
where the heck have you been, man?
I flew out to California and then drove back across the country.
you saying that now. how was your trip?
I didn't die on the plane trip, which was a nice surprise.
I also got to see the Grand Canyon. So now I'm special. Along with a billion other people.
It doesn't look like anything too exciting happened while I was gone. Well, not in the football world, anyway. Michael Jackson died when I was on my way to L.A., so I found out when I got there, and there were helicopters flying all over the place and the street where the Jackson family compound was had been blocked off. It was a wee bit nuts.
LaMarr Woodley did not get taken until the second round. That is where Graham should/will go.
if the demand for 3-4 OLB was high at the time, he'd be taken in the middle of the 1st round. He was a perfect 3-4 SAM for any 3-4 teams. The Steelers has a luxury of waiting til 2nd round to get Woodley in the 2nd round. Now? They no longer can wait for it to happen. Woodley would be a 1st rounder in '09 draft if he were to come out at that time.
Brandon Graham has an unique skills that would entice 3-4 teams who need 3-4 SAM. It's much easier to find 3-4 WILL because there are a bunch of 3-4 OLB, 4-3 DE tweeners in college level. Brandon Graham is Woodley v. 2.0.
If the demand for QBs were higher, he would have been taken in the first round.
Also, if more teams needed DTs, I bet Alan Branch would have gone in the first round.
Oh, and if every team starts playing 9 receivers at a time, I bet Greg Mathews is a first rounder, too.
because 3-4 OLBs weren't in demand a few years ago. Now, 3-4 OLB are in demand because more teams are running 3-4 scheme which makes Brandon Graham valuable.
Demand for QB, DT, WR makes no sense since that 3-4 and 4-3 scheme has changed in the past few years.
The title of your post was "Woodley was a 1st rounder" and you go on to say that if the game were completely different (i.e. if everyone ran a 3-4), then he'd be a 1st rounder.
He wasn't a 1st rounder.
But like I said, if every team suddenly had a two-quarterback system or if they allowed NFL teams to run the A-11 offense, Henne and Mathews would be 1st rounders, too. It's just a silly comparison to make.
I stated that the only reason why Woodley fell to 2nd round is there are 2 teams who runs 3-4 scheme so they can wait til later round to cherry pick tweeners because they don't fit the standard 4-3 scheme. Now, there are 6-8 teams who runs the 3-4 scheme so the demand for tweeners are higher than it was a few years ago. Compare the draft from few years ago to now. You'd see more 3-4 OLB being picked in the 1st round.
Woodley is a 1st rounder(graded) but fell due to the lack of demand of 3-4 OLB. Simple as that. The Steelers admitted that if there are more teams who runs 3-4 scheme at the time, Woodley would have never fall to 2nd round.
You said "Woodley is a 1st rounder."
The history books disagree.
End of story.
It doesn't matter what he was rated or what would have happened if more teams ran the 3-4. My point is, you can come up with a bunch of "what if" scenarios to make things look better for lots of players. But facts are facts.
If BG performs well enough in 2009 to go higher than Woodley in the draft, I'll
1) eat my hat
2) mmmmmmmm nom nom nommy nommy BG 1st rounder hat.
if you didn't need work ethic, durable bones, and a clean drug test Charles Rogers would be a great NFL WR.
BG was a 5 star recruit out of HS right? I cannot remember and I can't find it on rivals.
Yes, he was a 5-star.
He was graded as a middle linebacker coming out of high school. Coaches made a good choice using him as a DE.
TomVH, I am not a troll. Don't let the point total fool you.
It's always tough to project drafts this early. I remember around this time last year Mel Kiper had C.J. Spiller going top 5. He ended up having a below average year and staying in school. A lot can change over the course of the season.
I'm hoping that people saw what Woodley did as a Steeler and therefore peg BG as the next Woodley.
However, I do feel that Graham might not be as fast as Woodley is (although he is very close) and maybe more suited for a 4-3 defensive end rather than the 3-4 outside backer?
I tend to agree with your opinion of Graham. I'm not sure that he is as fast or explosive as Woodley. I think Graham might compare more favorably to James Hall.
the 2009 Michigan Wolverines win football games, you guys can compare to anybody and it'll be just fine with me.
Well, yeah, I'm not gonna disagree with ya there.
I think Graham has better straight-line speed than Woodley. Check out Graham chasing down Javon Ringer on Ringer's 64-yard TD last year; he didn't quite catch him, but he was damn close.
I also think Graham has a better bull rush than Woodley.
However, I think Woodley is more agile and has a quicker first step.
Was anyone else surprised that in this mock draft they had Tebow at 13 to Washington? I understand he is not your typical NFL QB and his style of play may or may not transfer to success in the NFL but 13. His leadership and college career should at least get him drafted in the top 10.
As for BG I really think he will end up going in the mid to late first round. He will not put up huge numbers, but he will put up good enough stats and will have an outstanding draft. Two years with Barwis, I can not wait to see his results on the bench press.
God of the Known Universe improves his throwing technique and puts up good completion %, most teams will pass on him for a more prototypical pocket passer like Bradford. Having Loefler should help him a great deal in that area though. You take into account that it will be a pretty good QB draft as well and he could drop to late first/early 2nd.
That being said, if I was a team that needed a QB, I would take him mid 1st round because he will give everything he has and is someone that can lead a franchise.
13 seems pretty good to me
I'm also in the camp that believes that he will be successful in the NFL and being picked 13 wouldn't mean that the NFL scouts disagree.
Yeah, 13 would put him higher than either Aaron Rodgers or Brady Quinn went and each were the second quarterbacks taken in their drafts. Also, each were "typical" drop back passers, so 13 for Tebow is not low at all.
...then again, would Jesus have gone 13th overall?
After the 12 disciples? Doubtful.
Haha, nice. Although I could see Al Davis liking Peter's speed at wideout because he was so quick to follow Jesus
Dan Snyder likes shiny things. Washington's picks never have anything to do with the best player for the team.
Tebow will fall to the Pats, and Belichick will make him a superstar after Brady retires in about five years. Book it.
a shot out in the dark. I say Minnesota misses out on the playoffs and ends up with a pick in the late teens. They then take Tebow with said pick.
That would put Tebow and Harvin together again.
I think Graham's sack and TFL totals are going to take a hit (ha) this year under Robinson's defense. I'm no expert, but doesn't the 3-4 mean someone will be facing a double-team on every play that a linebacker/deathbacker does not blitz? If so, he's the likeliest target.
I think it's safe to say that BG will be seeing a lot of double teams regardless of the defensive front.
lol "double teams"
Unless you're running a 5-2 or a 5-3, someone's going to be double-teamed. If there are four DL against 5 OL, there's going to be a double-team. If there are 3 DL and a blitzing LB against 5 OL, someone's going to get double-teamed.
Also, it's probably going to be rare that Robinson is going to send only 3 DL and keep all the linebackers and the Deathbacker back in coverage. Even if the Deathbacker drops off, they would probably send the MIKE or the WILL.
...in our hearts.