Michigan may or may not have a top 5 class ever. with richrod....
I feel we won't have many top 5 classes with RichRod as head coach. Now I could very well be wrong. I just don't see it. Yes we pulled a top 10 class with the 2009 class despite us going 3-9. I just don't see us doing much better than that even if we start going 10-2 every year. The reason you may ask? Well I think it is mostly with the type of players RichRod recruits. Players that fit our system have different skill sets then players that fit traditional systems. We may have a top 5 class due to the size of the class. I don't see us having a top 5 class due to the star ratings. Now like I said I could be wrong. We could start winning a lot and attract top defensive recruits. It's hard to say, but RichRod seems like he doesn't mind taking players that are considered by some as risky. I think a big reason why this is, is because of Barwis. Now if we do land a top 5 class sometime in the future, I will be the first to say I was wrong.
THE WHOLE POINT OF MY POST WAS TO SHOW THAT MICHIGAN RARELY GETS TOP 5 CLASSES. WE ALWAYS HAVE SOLID CLASSES, BUT WE DONT GET TOP TOP CLASSES TOO OFTEN AND I DON'T SEE THAT TREND CHANGING WITH RICHROD.
McFarlin?
McFarlin? Isn't he that one 15 year old kid who pretended to be a troll a while back? I think I remember reading some posts a while back about him. Anyways I can assure you I am not McFarlin. But I could care less if someone thought I was.
I've said it before.
If it looks like a duck,
and quacks like a duck,
there's a pretty good chance,
it is a duck
or a McFarlin.
is a retarded post
How is this post retarded? You mind giving me reasons?
would fly over your head anyways. RR's first class was ranked 6th on rivals yet you don't think we could ever move up that one spot? ever? retarded post.
It was ranked 8th. And 13th on Scout. And I should change ever. I should put as RihcRod as the coach.
it was 6th on scout, not rivals.
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=9&c=14&yr=2008
what were you saying?
Dude, this is for 2008! I said 2009!
OWNED!
his first recruiting class finished 6th, 2008 was his first recruiting class. please tell me you can read.
That wasn't his first class. His first real class was in 2009. Half those kids were Lloyds. Nice try.
it was his first class, he had to re-recruit every one of those kids. most of the time when a new coach comes in during the recruiting season he loses the majority of the class. RR "lost" one. you wanna keep going?
Honestly, I'm not going to argue with you. It would be too pointless. Any half way smart person would realize that it wasn't his first TRUE class. Those were Lloyd's recruits. RichRod even said himself that he only had about a month to recruit. He couldn't of just dropped the whole class because he wouldn't of had enough time to sign anyone. Do you wanna keep going? You sound stupid right now.
And honestly, who did RichRod really sign in 2008 that Lloyd didn't recruit first? Like a 2 star O-linemen?
Obes knows what he's talking about.
Don't bite off more than you can chew.
Perhaps you are right, I probably am getting into more then I can handle. But i don't agree that 2008 was RichRod's class. I should just stop while I'm ahead.
Players had a chance to jump ship. Ask John Wienke and Christian Wilson. And it's not like the guys we had committed were unwelcome elsewhere.
They SIGNED to play for Rich Rodriguez. They only orally committed to Lloyd Carr.
True, but I think a lot of them stayed because of Lloyd. Half those kids wouldn't be here if Lloyd didn't recruit them.
"Yeah...uhh...Mr. Rodriguez. I know you'll be coaching me seven hours a day, and I just want to say that I don't really like you as a coach. But there's a guy named Mr. Carr who might be watching me from the press box on Saturday afternoons that I'll have no interactions with, and I'm coming to play for him."
lol you're being an ass, but I see where you are coming from. I'm not trying to say a recruit stayed ONLY because of Lloyd, but I think he did have a factor in it. McGuffie even said himself that part of the reason he stayed was because of Lloyd and the fact that he thought he owed it to Michigan because he already said he would sign. RichRod didn't really make McGuffie stay. Same with a lot of players.
Still, nobody would have blamed those kids for leaving. There was practically zero backlash against Wienke and Wilson for heading elsewhere.
Officially, Rich Rodriguez had been the coach for about two months when they signed. Therefore, that was his first class.
Regardless, in YOUR version of his first class, he got a #8 class, so the difference is negligible.
I never said it was impossible. But when was the last time Michigan had a top 5 on both sites?
Maybe 2004... I don't know. Considering those sites have only been around for a handful of years, I'd say the sample size for top five classes is pretty small.
Regardless, if that's your argument, then it seems like you're challenging MICHIGAN'S ability to get a top five class, not Rodriguez's. The type of athlete Rodriguez recruits is, as I've stated, not any different from what most big-time programs recruit. So perhaps your conclusion is correct, but the avenue you took to reach that conclusion might be somewhat convoluted.
Is an ass clown.
Doesn't like turtles.
Eats babies.
Additionally, people like Shaw and Barnum and Odoms and Roundtree and Hill signed on after Rodriguez came here. So it's not like he just stole Carr's crop of kids. He added some integral pieces.
True, that he did. You are a smart guy Magnus, I'm not going to lie. You know what you are talking about.
Gracias. I am going to bed. Good night.
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That it'll shrink infinitely. Not sure though. I just hope this is really really hard to read for whoever managed to get this far. If you did...well then...nice work!
Do you think if it gets small enough it will just disappear?
Let me out of here, I can't breath in here and I am claustrophobic!!!
to suffocate you. This looks so weird to read, don't you think?
This is getting ridiculous! but I am very interested to see how small it with get.
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We're completely outside of the thread box. Pretty soon we're going to expand the perimeters of MGoBlog's territory!
Wow I set myself up for that one! LOL
you're not ahead
if you don't know the difference between couldn't of/ wouldn't of and couldn't have and wouldn't have
Couldn't of, wouldn't of ????
Grow some English, dude.
3 of those guys are gone. I don't see why you're arguing about. You think he's getting a top 5 class soon? On what basis?
The title of your post is enough to make this post retarded
all the bases. "May or may not."
Hey, the sun may or may not rise tomorrow.
Actually he may live in Alaska where the sun don't rise everyday or Iceland where the sun doesn't rise everyday!(well because 2 months outa the year it don't set, kinda hard to rise when it doesn't set)
Can someone please wake me up in September when there's something real to discuss?
Can we all agree that Rich Rodriguez and his staff know more about recruiting and have watched far more real tape (not YouTube highlights) of these kids than any of us have?
Can we reserve all panic attacks on recruiting until February?
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I've required 5 interventions by my friends and family, and I only started playing it today.
I hate that cat!!!!!!
Finally after 8 tries!
But I just beat it on my 4th try. Really. It is 8:45 and I may be fired before noon for doing nothing but trying to circle this cat again.