Michigan announces plan to reopen facilities
CAN'T WAIT
Student-athletes will return to campus in four phases, with each group of student-athletes progressing through a detailed process to ensure the well-being, safety and ongoing health of student-athletes and staff.
— Michigan Athletics (@UMichAthletics) June 15, 2020
The detailed process for reopening the athletic campus for student-athletes includes a 14-day pre-report risk assessment, a six-day resocialization period to campus, and daily risk assessments, including temperature checks.
— Michigan Athletics (@UMichAthletics) June 15, 2020
"Our protocols and plans have been developed by medical experts from across U-M’s campus … I appreciate the contributions and comprehensive efforts across so many groups and in coordination with the #B1G and peers across the NCAA.” - Warde Manuel
— Michigan Athletics (@UMichAthletics) June 15, 2020
For those that need reminders...no player who tests positive will be in any danger. If they socially distance from an at risk person and if an elderly/at-risk coach wears a hearty mask..
NOBODY ASSOCIATED WITH THE UM FOOTBALL PROGRAM WILL DIE FROM COVID-19 THIS YEAR.
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IT’S ALL SO SIMPLE!!!
Thanks Doc. If only we’d had you in charge from the start then this whole pandemic would never have happened and we could all be looking forward to riding to the Big House on our nuclear powered unicorns with rainbow exhaust fumes shooting out their asses.
What was wrong about what I said? Three months of data don't mean shit?
This dude thought the fatality rate for this was 5% earlier today.
He also made fun of a dead musician and lied about it.
I wouldn't pay him much attention.
From the guy who made an account 3 weeks ago with an obviously racist name......Go away JPC.
My username is racist now? Lol wtf
Did you think the fatality rate was 5% yesterday, and now youre trying to speak to the science of this?
Jeez you’re really butthurt about this 5% fatality thing.
Well to humor you, here’s a site that has the number of cases and deaths. As you can clearly see from the numbers the US and world fatality rate with diagnosed cases is 5.5%
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en
So now go ahead and tell me why this isn’t correct based on whatever study you want to pull out of your ass that estimates the numbers are lower, but has no hard numbers to back up that assertion.
Also l, in the future, could you please let her know which multiple accounts are yours, since you’ve clearly been here more than 3 weeks. Which means you either had to create a new account because you got banned on your old one, or you use multiple accounts to make you seem more popular than you are. TIA.
If your numbers are a complete summary of every person who's had Covid-19, it must not be very contagious. Only 8 million out of almost 8 billion people in the world have had it. 0.1% contracted the disease over 6 months. Nothing to worry about.
OR
Maybe, just maybe, it's slightly possible that the number of positive cases is dramatically understated due to lack of testing and the death rate is well under 5%
Yeah there go those pesky medical numbers again getting in the way. Funny how that repeatedly happens.
Wut numbers are you looking at that say young/healthy/quarantined people are at risk? How about numbers that say masks don't work?(I'd personally love those). Link plz.
Btw spare me the anecdotal Kawasaki cases or magical premonitions of "permanent lung damage" from the future.
BB this yahoo puts the special in agent...he's been a flaming nancy since the start, you'd swear this was the freaking zombie apocalypse if you paid half attention to a single post it's made...serious disease? yes. Virus? yes. Killing millions? not even close.
It is a good thing CDC takes children’s health more seriously than you.
“Cases of a rare, potentially deadly syndrome in children have been identified in nearly half the nation's states, just days after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed the link between the coronavirus and the new illness.
New York City's health department has found 147 cases of children sickened by what was previously referred to as pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome (PIMS-TS), Mayor Bill de Blasio said Tuesday‘
Yes, it appears to be rare, that doesn’t make it not real.
The numbers and statistics have been quoted as nauseam by doctors, scientists and countless other people around the world who are far smarter and more informed about this than you or I ever will be, and they are easily available by going to a site called “Google” and typing in a few keywords. The whole process would literally take 30-60 seconds.
Telling me I’m responsible for giving you info you’re too lazy to look up isn’t really a strong defense for your position.
Google seems to have chaz-washed any "masks don't work" searches. I'm sure blueindc has some answers for my claims above.
The thing about smarter and more informed people than we are, is that they have an obligation and knack to covey complex information to the masses in a way they we can all understand. Don't get me wrong, this pandemic stuff is complicated, but not beyond the cognitive ability of the general public. You should be ashamed to think that everyone in this country cannot understand what is going on.
Go back to posting more watermelon jokes. That seems to be your strong suit.
What jokes? Watermelon is a delicious and healthy fruit.
If you could manage to be a little less emphatic, like drop the caps and say, it is extremely unlikely that anyone involved in Michigan football will die, or, it is much more likely that a football player would die in a car accident than from covid (this article suggests about 33 times more likely (https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-05-07/comparing-coronavirus-deaths-by-age-with-flu-driving-fatalities), you might get a little less resistance.
If you’ve made the decision to reopen the university, I would agree that Covid is probably much less of a health risk than playing football itself. There are about 3 deaths per year in college and high school football (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/65/wr/mm6552a2.htm) and many more injuries.
The questions are much less about health of players than they are about logistics and chance to exacerbate community spread (and this is much more related to fans in the stands, than players on the field).
Judging from Bloomberg, cdc,and most importantly blueindc, ATHLETES ARE 33x MORE LIKELY TO DIE IN A CAR WRECK THAN FROM COVID-19. IF FANS DO NOT SNEEZE COUGH OR BREATHE ON THE PLAYERS, COMMUNITY SPREAD TO AT-RISK INDIVIDUALS WILL BE MITIGATED. (secret is out)
Broken Brilliance is an ass. No need to shout. It’s never been a secret. FYI - Everything I posted had ZERO to do with fans and community spread. (I included the caps just for you, because apparently you think they are super important to reading comprehension and you apparently have a challenge with that).
So, you aren't concerned with players, you aren't concerned with fans. If coaches, inactive players, and staff mask up,what is your personal concern with having football while staying safe from COVID-19? (At least more safe from CAR WRECKS, as previously stated)
You really do struggle with reading comprehension don’t you. I’ll try to make it simpler for you (even though I have little confidence that you actually care to consider an opinion other than your own).
1. Players - low health risk, slightly increased risk of community spread because certainly they are partaking in a higher risk of transmission activity than many, but given what hey support in terms of overall athletic budget understand the logic behind the risk.
2. Coaches - adults who are in financially secure enough position that they can make own choices.
3. Other support staff - no different than millions of others who need to make a living. Given frequency of testing that is likely to exist around program, probably actually better off.
4. In-person crowds - depends lots on numbers and how it is handled, but certainly if it started to exceed 25,000, would be concerned that it could exacerbate community spread. Question whether we really want to risk return to more stringent more mandatory social distancing just so people can go and watch a football game. Think trying to keep people working and kids in school should be the higher priority.
5. Biggest concern - people who need the medical system and may get substandard care because it is overwhelmed. If it gets overwhelmed, will itt be crowds at football games alone that cause that, no. But it is certainly a means of transmission that could be minimized with less imposition than keeping kids home from school or blanket stay at home orders.
We weren't overwhelmed the last few months, so...
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Yes, and now as Michigan relaxes it’s stay at home measures, hopefully people in Michigan will be wiser about being careful to prevent increases than in other states like Arizona.
Here's one bit of news, genius: Masks don't prevent you from catching the virus; they only help prevent you from spreading it.
So if players are constantly tested/quarantined, and coaches/staff wear magic masks, what is your concern?
I was really hoping for more talk about how the AD is going to “leverage their synergies during this paradigm shift across multiple dynamic spectrums.”
Warde Manual has the student-athlete's best interest in mind. Both from a health and cultural standpoint.
as a former MICHIGAN student-athlete...Warde cares more about them than many want to believe. He's a genuine dude. I had the fortune of spending two seasons with him, and have talked with him repeatedly since he became AD. Warde is the same guy I knew in college, he will stand behind his beliefs and wants to see success but not at the cost of safety. He walked that mile himself he understands what is at stake across the spectrum.
Glad to hear it from a primary source. He's a breath of fresh air after the tyrant AD before him. Thank goodness for President Schlissel.
Here's Warde's perspective then and now. He was a DT with the football program came up from Louisiana. He had a career-ending neck injury and his scholarship was honored as a medical waiver. He had thrown javelin in high school, Louisiana one of the few states that did so. He asked if he was medically clear to throw, he felt he needed to earn his scholarship, he didn't want charity. He was cleared to compete, just no lifting that could risk further injury. He set the school record in the javelin his first year out. Unfortunately, a young punk (actually a great guy as well...) came in from Kansas the next season and eclipsed it.
Warde cared about the block M, he cared about the program and wanted to give back. It's one of the reasons he took the job at UM. He had a good thing going at Uconn. Will he always make the 'best' choice? that's impossible. Too many other influences, and information most of us will never see. We spent half an hour at a UM baseball game the summer before last, and he blew my mind with the stuff that goes on behind the scenes for what most of us see as simple no brainer things. It's politics, it's money, it's coaching desires, it's public perception...it's a deep and busy job. I give him all the respect in the world. His perspective. he's a parent to 10,000 children at once. That summed it up for me
Wait a second. Men's and women's basketball are allowed back before the other Fall sports' teams? I mean, I don't know the normal practice schedules for non-revenue Fall sports but I'd imagine they start up before the basketball teams considering their seasons start at the same time as football.
You know an organization is taking their Covid-19 reopening seriously when they do things in "phases." Here are a list of things ONLY to be done in PHASES:
-Withdrawal of troops from a country;
-Gender reassignment surgery;
-Construction of a skyscraper;
-Covid-19 reopening.
I love you.
And your descent into mediocrity...
Took them long enough.
Did it? Pandemics are so common these days, institutions should automatically know how to deal them them.
Is the risk assessment going to include a medical check for pre-existing conditions that have shown to be much higher risk factors for negative health outcomes for covd patients? The only way I see danger here is if a player has undiagnosed heart disease or diabetes or other risk factor. All players (and staff) should be examined and checked for these.
well said and in the end this isn't a terrible thing. It has happened at the high school, college, and NFL level with undetected heart issues causing death or other complications. If nothing else, more thorough testing is a win win.
There was a huge push for athletic depts to search for any/all heart conditions for every athlete in the aftermath of Rashidi Wheeler’s terrible and shocking death at NU. I hope that level of testing is still happening regardless of covid-19.
I like it how at OSU they are having the student athletes sign away their rights, all for the DUB-YA!
Curious as to the plan come September. Are they planning to keep the athletes away from the general student body? I doubt that they're going to test students with the same regularity as they will the athletes.
What’s the protocol when someone is diagnosed with C-19 and passes it to a student or students with underlying heath issues?
How can you prove it? Are contact tracers best guesses legally damning?
Same protocol as if the student got it at the grocery store, or from another student, or a cafeteria worker, or the multitude of other places a student may get C-19; they'll seek the best medical care possible.
Probably the same protocol as when they would otherwise get it.
If you have severe underlying health issues and don't want to catch coronavirus, going to a college campus seems like a terrible idea in the midst of a pandemic.
If only you lived in Tasmania and were more interesting. Sydney is the most boring place to live in all Australia.
Some schools such as Michigan State are banning corporate recruiting activities from campus all the while preparing their football team to compete in front of fans.
It is a sad day when a school puts winning football games above enabling their student body to become gainfully employed.