McQuery Placed On Administrative Leave By PSU

Submitted by mGrowOld on

I believe our mod overlords have stated tthat starting a thread on something such as this is legal but time will shortly tell.  

Multiple media outlets are reporting that Penn State Assistant Coach Mike McQuery has been placed on paid administrative leave by the university.  ESPN is also reporting that McQuery notifiied the team tonight that he "is no longer their coach" with no further comment at this time.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7221182/penn-state-nittany-lions-mike-mcqueary-placed-administrative-leave-interim-president-says

mGrowOld

November 11th, 2011 at 10:35 PM ^

Look at the responses to my post "What about McQuery?" I made a couple of days ago.  You'll see a LOT of people on the board claim they wouldn't know what to do either and defind McQuery's inaction or at the very least, excuse it.

And a lot of people got real pissed at me for suggesting that anybody with a pair of balls and half a brain would've stopped Sandusky that night and not called their daddy.

lexus larry

November 11th, 2011 at 11:37 PM ^

Mgrow, you've aged this week. I call your brass cojones, and raise my cast iron ones. There's a reason for the quote 'there, but for the grace of God, go I.' No one definitively knows what they would do in such circumstances, you included. Now, think about this...how you were raised, and your life experiences, how they shape you and your responses. Imagine being raised by elder McQueary. As an unpaid working young adult, you see something awful and go to your dad. His advice? Talk to the guy at the top. WTF!!! Is it a wonder MM is a mess? He was raised in a mess of a home. (NOT a justification...anyone can learn from being raised the 'wrong' way, and do better.) As an earlier reply stated, my 28 y/o kid comes to me with this, I too, am kicking his ass all the way down the street to the PD. Of course, my kid won't get to adulthood with that kind of worship for a mere football coach, or a coordinator... Asides: (1) Do JoePa's porch quotes not match the written press releases? Porch = concern for PSU and football and ignore his firing. Release(s) = concern and prayers for victims. Lame comments about hindsight. (2) Much like the annoyance of Dantonio calling Tressel a 'tragic figure,' look at Hoke's (or most every coach) lack of definitive condemnation. The football culture drives a weird 'omerta' where there are few coaches who stand and say 'that's wrong' or 'he broke rules.' Why, John Galt? Why?

mGrowOld

November 12th, 2011 at 10:43 AM ^

LOL...no.  My reading comprehension skills work just fine thank you.  Perhaps because they are not clouded by the moral ambiguity that many seem to face on this issue they seem that way to you.  

That's ok though.  Everytime I turn on the radio, watch TV or go to virtually any other site outside of PSU I see and hear the world  much more aligned with my line of thinking on the issue than those who say McQuery's inaction was understandable.

 I have a feeling a LOT more will be coming out soon that will either support my position on McQuery or will explain his lack of action.  As I said earlier this morning - I had not considered until today that he may have already known that the authorities were engaged earlier and chose to do nothing.  It would not explain his running and hiding that night but it would account for his lack of notification to the police afterwards.

Either way I will be here to take my shots from the rest of the community or write a "We were RIGHT" post a-la Section One.

 

gbdub

November 12th, 2011 at 11:43 AM ^

Look at what's happening to him now. He's getting death threats. People are rioting over Paterno's firing. He's been driven to drinking and his career is probably ruined. If you think the right thing to do was easy, you're fooling yourself. Doesn't make what he did "right" but it's not totally outside the realm of understanding.

Ovr

November 11th, 2011 at 10:33 PM ^

Several months, right?  I wouldn't be surprised if that's how long JoePa, Sandusky, and McQueary last.  JoePa, like the Bear, by natural causes.

thisisme08

November 11th, 2011 at 11:14 PM ^

This had to to happen.

IMO I dont see the difference between him and JoePa so if one went, so does the other.

They both relayed what happened to a superior and chose to not call the police yet the furor of the media has come down on both of them.

George Patton

November 11th, 2011 at 11:36 PM ^

Just speculation on my part . . . but my hunch is that when the facts come out, they'll show that McQuery pushed Paterno and the administration to call the police, but they decided not to and directed McQuery that this was the final decision.  If this is what happened, it wouldn't leave McQuery free of any moral blame.  There is a case to be made, as many have done here, that he should have acted immediately.  Still, if this is what happened, it would put him in a very different category than Paterno and others.  It would also be a better explanation of why the University won't fire him, but can't talk about why.  Let's wait and see what comes out before we condemn the guy.

Muttley

November 12th, 2011 at 12:07 AM ^

against McQueary.

Yes, McQueary failed miserably and shamefully in his own moral decisions.

But how can the institution, which from the legend to the university president--its very core--take action against then-GA McQueary?  It's like Jeffrey Dahmer firing someone who witnessed one of his acts for only telling his superiors.

Of course, to begin the healing process, MM should not coach another game.  For MM's own sake as well.  But it seems to me that PSU does not have ANY standing to terminate MM.  Put him on "administrative leave", MM should negotiate an appropriate severance, and then all parties can try to go forward.

2plankr

November 12th, 2011 at 12:03 AM ^

People saying they know for certain what they or others would have done should read up on the milgram experiments, the stanford prison experiments, or a host of other psychological research that shows a) we dont always do the right thing in these types of situations and b) we are HORRENDOUS at PREDICTING how we will respond in these situations

How wwe would like to believe we are wired is a lot different from the actual brains evolution has given us

M-Wolverine

November 12th, 2011 at 12:33 AM ^

Are that the weak willed are willing to go along with others in the face of bad things, and the strong stand up for what's right.
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<br>There are far more of the former, but it doesn't mean everyone will do it. Or can't know what they'd do.

2plankr

November 12th, 2011 at 12:39 AM ^

but everyone thinks THEY are the latter.

And I disagree about knowing what you'll do.  The evidence just doesnt support it.  There are better examples of that then the ones I gave, but I'm no psychologist so I dont know them offhand

Muttley

November 12th, 2011 at 12:41 AM ^

How do you know the local police would have acted? JoePa, the University President, and the AD are a hell of a lot more influential than a Graduate Assistant. Former Penn State Coach Prosecutor Center of Missing Man Mystery
The prosecutor who decided not to pursue sex abuse charges against former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky, despite an alleged confession, is at the center of a missing persons mistery that has enraptured middle Pennsylvania for years.

YaBoyBlue

November 12th, 2011 at 4:18 AM ^

and I've felt a stain on my soul and a hole in my heart since I read the whole accidentally released grand jury report on Saturday night. The victims are first. I can't begin to fathom the horrors they have endured. In this clusterf*ck of ineptitude, NO ONE is clean until we can all move on. So man the fuck up, or ladies stand up, and learn from this, so it never, ever happens again. It's just now beginning. And as we learn more, maybe we will comprehend more. But it is far far from resolved. WE are not the victims. So quit turning on each other. We will all know the facts, unfortunately not soon enough. I'm personally worried what might happen Sat in happy valley. A lot of attitude. A lot of mixed emotions. A lot of uninformed opinion. Sounds volatile. None of us know. *ed. I'm 6'6 280 father of 5. I woulda killed that's just me. Why didn't they riot on Sanduskys street. He was home.

hennesbe

November 12th, 2011 at 10:41 AM ^

McQueary was in a position he couldn't win from what I can see.  He had to have know Sandusky was a pervert. and that the university was covering it up.  First  reported in 1998 and sort of banned from the campus.  McQueary witnesses episode in 2002 so what does he do.  Doesn't go to police because he knows Penn St doesn't want to make light of the situation.  But he tells the AD so he can handle it like he did before.  After all McQueary wanted a full time coaching pos at PSU and going to the police with something PSU officials didn't want to do was going to ban him.  Granted there are some people that would have done the right thing but just how many?

Sopwith

November 12th, 2011 at 12:39 PM ^

says that he claimed, in the same call to the receivers, to be in "protective custody" and is no longer in State College.

Bear in mind, as much as everyone wants to burn him at the stake (I'm probably on that list), this guy is the only eyewitness who can testify against Sandusky.  The only other one is a janitor with dementia.  Without McQueary, how do you even establish that the 10-year old boy existed?