well that's just, like, your opinion, man
MBB ranked 13th in new ESPN Poll 10th in AP
in the top fifteen. Nicely done, B1G, nicely done.
Thats five right? MSU, OSU Wiscy, UofM, Indiana.
Missed Wisconsin, my mistake. Most likely because they shouldn't be where they are in the first place.
Hate having Wiscy right above us.
Can't we get some respect?! They put Wisky above us ... Funny how we won the conf championship and all while they didn't. Plus we won head to head. Plus we had similar records. It's not like they have any edges over us. Maybe JB can turn this into a motivational thing.
I know wisconsin has been ranked ahead of us for a few weeks. But it still bothers me. Michigan won head to head decisively. Michigan won share of Big Ten championship. Michigan has better RPI and SOS. Rabble Rabble Rabble
This sounds like me referring to Wisconsin after the 2010 football season.......
In any case, I see no reason why they are ranked ahead of Michigan. They probably pulled ahead at some point and both teams kept winning (they lost @iowa; M lost to Purdue) which became a wash and the rankings were never adjusted. Rankings are MEANINGLESS in CBB.
Have a better resume than Murray St, Baylor and Wisconsin right now. Have proved they can play with OSU, MSU. I don't understand how MSU didn't drop more by losing twice. Marquette stayed top 10 even after getting crushed by Cincy.
- Wisconsin: yeah
- Baylor: maybe
- Murray State: not so much
any top 10 teams?
is if you think all wins are created equal.
I really hope you're kidding.
Memphis = Murray State's 2nd best victory (St Marys the 1st)
Memphis = our 5th best victory (MSU, OSU, Wisky, Indiana)
I actually think both Northwestern victories and Iowa State might be better as well.
It is very satisfying to know that March madness is coming up, so we can sort all this out. Unlike football, where we are left to wonder every year... Boise..cough..
Badgers must beat Indiana then MSU in order to get to the Big Ten Championship game. We will end up passing them in the polls.
Aren't we done with polls? I was pretty sure this was the last poll of the basketball season since on Sunday afternoon rankings don't matter at all.
Also, this is just a pet peeve of mine but, it's the Coaches Poll - not the ESPN Poll. I suppose if you have to call it ESPN call it the ESPN/USA Today Coaches Poll. There are 2 polls - Coaches and AP.
but no one calls it the coaches poll anymore. It is the USA Today/ ESPN Poll now. But yes it is the coaches poll
All my friends that I talk to about football or basketball still call them the Coaches and AP polls but maybe we're just old school.
the websites, or the homepages of ESPN, or Yahoo, and CBS Sportsline is what I meant. No I am 31 I still remember the AP and Coaches Poll were the only names they went by.
puts them at 24 and Michigan is at 12. A quick look at their resumes, tells me that Michigan has a much better resume than Murray St. Sure, Murray St has only 1 loss. What's their SoS again? Oh yeah...
Tired of this idea that Murray St is so much better than certain other teams.
It is getting old thta they are ahead of us- but rankings means much less than seeding- and we have a three seed looking pretty safe so I don't worry too much being behind Wisonsin even though it is stupid
I think part of the reason that Michigan gets no respect in the polls is their grind-it-out style of play and lack of a real superstar (sorry Trey...). Also, thhe chance of an off night of shooting makes Michigan beatable by anyone.
Is this fair? Probably not. But the lack of an exciting style of play and personel has to weigh heavy on some voters minds.
And Wisconsin has an exciting style of play and exciting personel?
Other than Jordan Taylor, they are a much more boring team than we are. And are still ranked above us.
It doesn't matter, I know. But seeing big disparities between rankings and seeding in the tournament just shows you how bad some of the voters are at evaluating the best teams.
Other than the weirdness of being behind Wisconsin in the Coaches Poll, we're basically ranked as high as possible considering our overall record. And it isn't like Wisconsin is fun to watch or has any players people know outside of Jordan Taylor (again, not exactly a highlight reel guy).
Frankly I think we've been ranked a little higher than expected all year for a team with some of the perceived weaknesses you mention (reliance on the 3, not very big, etc.)
This is silly. There's a more logical reason why we're ranked where we are: we have eight losses, more than everyone ranked ahead of us.
I know Michigan is a good basketball squad, we all do. It's almost tough to remember sometimes because it doesn't seem like they have, but they do have EIGHT losses. I probably say switch us with Wisconsin, because of the whole Conf. Champion and head-to-head thing, but otherwise they're where they belong. Anywhere within 10-13 range is a good spot and quite honestly, like many have said, it doesn't mean sh*t.
|Associated Press Top 25|
|4. North Carolina|
|7. Ohio State|
|8. Michigan State|
|11. Murray State|
|16. Wichita State|
|17. Florida State|
|18. San Diego State|
|23. Notre Dame|
|25. Iowa State|
That looks more like it. Top 10 ranking.
win looks pretty dang good as of now doesn't it?
too bad that senior night loss to Purdue really, really stings. Could have had an undefeated home record AND an outright conference title.
Oh well, still an amazing and fun season nonetheless. Excited for the Big 10 and NCAA tourneys!
I think we remember the Purdue loss more because it was recent and it was at home. But Purdue is not a bad basketball team (depends on which night you play them it seems) so my head scratcher this year was the Iowa game. Iowa sucks and we got killed. I can understand every other loss to some extent but that one still makes zero sense to me.
Iowa was actually pretty decent in B1G play, especially at home.
That's Michigan highest AP ranking--and first time back in the AP top 10--since early January 1997 (when they were ranked 8th).
EDIT: Or if you want to skip any vacated seasons, you'd have to go back to the second week of March 1994, when they were also ranked 8th.
Or, if you want to also ignore the entire Fab Five era--vacated or not--the last time would be early March 1990, and another 8th ranking.
When does Michigan raise their Big Ten Champs banner? Selection Sunday?
Since Crisler is currently an outdoor arena (due to the walls being ripped out and such), I am guessing it is something that happens early next season.
Hopefully all of this years seniors can come back for the event, but it will be a special night in Crisler for sure.
Thanks. I completely forgot about that. I wanted to be sure not to miss it but yeah, sounds like next year.
All the decorations are out of the building, not to mention Crisler might not even have a floor at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised to not see a 2012 banner until early 2013, when apparently we're going to have a big OOC opponent and rededication of Crisler.
Speaking of Selection Sunday, are they doing a thing like they did last year? Doesn't really affect me, as I'm not a local, but definitely a nice thing for the students/fans.
AP poll I agree with. ESPN not so much. Wisconsin ranked ahead of us is stupid for many reasons.