Knee, Timeout, Knee. On the 1.

Submitted by Steve Breaston… on January 2nd, 2024 at 9:17 PM

I was in the end zone seats where that series of events was taking place and I was apoplectic at what was transpiring. I honestly still can’t comprehend it. Did any of you glean anything different from watching the broadcast?

Im still basking in the glow of the victory and the feeling of being there in that moment, but FFS I almost Wayne Brady’d somebody in that moment.

umichfutball

January 2nd, 2024 at 9:23 PM ^

Word on twitter was the timeout was called pre-snap as the coaches had wanted a player on each side of JJ to guard against the possibility of a fumbled snap (would imagine their eyes were on the ball the whole time)

DelGriffith

January 2nd, 2024 at 9:25 PM ^

Believe this is correct. TO from the sideline but the play ran before they could stop it. Clock went all the way down to 1 sec( If I remember right?) Then they reset to 0:12 after the TO and ran the play for keeps.

EverybodyMurders

January 2nd, 2024 at 9:26 PM ^

I was confused as well and it wasn't explained during the broadcast. But the explanation I've read is that after the Corum 1 yard run, Alabama called their final timouet. Then when Michigan was about to take their knee, Michigan called a timeout because they noticed Corum was too far back in the endzone. But JJ snapped it and kneed anyway but technically the knee never occurred. So Michigan goes back out with 2 players immediately behind JJ and then do a normal kneel down and it was still 2nd and 9, confirming the 1st Michigan kneel down did not occur

The funny thing to me is that if you look in the 21 minute ESPN highlight package on youtube, the kneel that never happened is the one they show right before going to OT (not that it matters)

AWAS

January 2nd, 2024 at 9:30 PM ^

It wasn't very obvious on the regular ESPN broadcast, but I somehow DVR'd one of the auxiliary feeds that had much better field audio.  It was very clear from that alt. feed rewatch that the timeout was before the first kneel down.

The other way you can tell (no help from the announcing crew) was the down did not change after the first kneel down and timeout.  The play didn't happen.

I can't blame you for the reaction in the moment.  I know my heart had not recovered from the near disaster of mishandling the punt.

MaizeBlueA2

January 2nd, 2024 at 9:32 PM ^

Oooh, so it makes sense now.

The first kneel down never happened.

On the broadcast they made it look like Harbaugh just randomly called timeout with 5 seconds on the clock after it was about to expire.

Fowler was asking, "they wouldn't dare throw a Hail Mary, would they?"

LSAClassOf2000

January 2nd, 2024 at 9:33 PM ^

I was here in Michigan watching on television, but they called the timeout before the kneel, and the clock was reset several seconds later, so maybe the message was received a bit late, as it were. It seemed pretty clear that they didn't like what they saw even in the limited background available on our set. 

UofMedic

January 2nd, 2024 at 10:18 PM ^

Also curious watching it live, from somewhat behind them (Sec 23). Best I could come up with is maybe they called a timeout at the last second to let the play still run, but to gauge if JJ had enough room to take the knee with a “do over” still to come. 

MAN-AT-ARMS

January 2nd, 2024 at 10:28 PM ^

If you were at the game you should have heard the referee explain that Michigan called timeout before the snap. From TV it was not as clear to what had happened. 

BornInA2

January 2nd, 2024 at 10:51 PM ^

Another failure of the announcers to, you know, announce the game. They were too busy with quasi-flowery unrelated verbiage to actually tell the audience what was happening with the actual game.

maizedNblued

January 2nd, 2024 at 10:58 PM ^

I think I mentioned this earlier - I believe ESPN screwed up the timeouts on the screen and took one away from Bama - I cannot quite remember when it actually happened but you can tell Harbaugh looked confused as to who called a TO and even said something along the lines of "they call a TO?" to the official before looking at the scoreboard to see who had what remaining. I am fairly certain that is exactly how it all went down.

Definitely was a wild moment - even before that when Thaw fumbled the ball and it looked like the spin would carry it into the endzone then all of a sudden it spun differently and just twisted on its axis just before the goal-line - crazy sequence - que sera, sera. 

Hensons Mobile…

January 3rd, 2024 at 2:04 AM ^

This is completely incorrect. The correct answer was already posted in the first comment. Somebody else already made your incorrect claim above and received 2 negs and a correction.

Alabama's timeouts were correctly reflected on ESPN. Alabama had one left, called it. Then Michigan called one. The timeout was called before the first kneel down we saw. There was only one kneel down that actually counted.

Besides, you are no longer allowed to call back-to-back timeouts.

NCAA website:

  • Teams will be prohibited from calling consecutive team timeouts: This rule prohibits teams from calling back-to-back timeouts as a tactic sometimes used to "ice the kicker." In college football, teams get three timeouts per half each lasting about 90 seconds. 

Hensons Mobile…

January 3rd, 2024 at 10:31 AM ^

Sorry, you're right. I was not clearly reading your version of events. I assumed you were suggesting back-to-back TOs by Bama because both kneel downs happened on 2nd down with 12 seconds left.

But now I understand you were mistakenly thinking the second kneel down happened on third down with less than 12 seconds.

Anyway, happy to clear up that it was Harbaugh who called the TO (after Saban's TO) before the first kneel down even happened.

ndev.sports

January 3rd, 2024 at 8:46 AM ^

Yup, they weren't real clear with it on the commentary, but that sequence was a run for 1 yard, making it 2nd and 9. Timeout before the snap on what appeared to be the first kneel-down. Kneel down on 2nd and 9. Overtime.