JLong looked god awful, worst busts in recent history?

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JLong looks god awful, worst busts in recent history?

Not an appropriate diary topic, but I think points are preventing me from comments so spinning it into one.

I. Jake Long Observations

Watching M alum(s) makes any NFL viewing that much more enjoyable. Due to Jake Long, the Fins have supplanted the Pats as my favorite non-Lions NFL game. Like Brady you can watch him on every offensive play. He’s obv nowhere near as accomplished as Brady. But I still marvel more, esp in pro football, over consistent physical domination. Acceleration, speed, quickness, hand-eye Q, leaping, striking, plowing, etc.

Jake squished opponents like grapes in college. Orlando Pace was the gold standard and better college player IMO due to his inhuman (I guess they all are) level of flexibility and athleticism. He moved like an NBA small forward +100 lbs, was as powerful as anyone, and unlike many other gifted LT’s brought his athleticism to pass pro and run-blocking balance/leverage in equal measure. Pace carried it all over to the NFL and was a top 3 tackle (Tra Thomas, Walter Jones) during his era and has a goofy bronze caricature somewhere in his future.

The question for me going into Jake’s rookie season was whether his raw power would transfer to the pros. I had confidence in his consistency, discipline, leverage, technique, awareness in picking up stunts/blitzes, ability to run-block in space, and ability to be an effective pass blocker. In other words a fine LT. But what if you had an LT that could pass block like Joe Thomas and run block like Jon Runyn?

The media consensus was that Jake’s ceiling was a average-at-best pass blocking LT if he managed to stave off the move to RT. I never thought Jake would look as smooth as Thomas but could match the pass blocking effectiveness, and that if that brute strength carried over you’d have back-to-back rookie pro bowlers at LT in the AFC provided that #1 overall pick notoriety could counterbalance veteran bias and lazy voting.

And so it nearly went (Jake was an alternate despite playing the 2nd half last year on a bad wheel). Jake blew ends 10 yards off the ball and caved in half the DL with regularity. It all snapped into focus during his nationally televised match-up with Mario Williams where the Fins left him largely to his own devises on pass plays, and Williams came out of halftime rushing from the left side of the line.

This season I was hoping to watching Jake put another bullet on an HOF resume and continue beasting defenders in a manor which palpably shortened life spans.

My second boy was born this Sunday, week one, so I wasn’t paying that close attention. I was perturbed to here Greeny squawking Monday about John Abrams owning Jake. But I didn’t think much more of it other than making the Fins-Colts week 2 Freeny match-up that much more interesting.

End prelude commence observations.

A. As far as homer announcers go, Mike Tirico must make Herbie blush. Odd considering

he isn’t an alum. I know Tirico lives in AA now. And as a ‘Cuse alum there’s nothing inherently preventing him from drifting toward an M allegiance. Tirico’s gal may even be an M alum. But those factors alone can’t account for more than 5 inches of the 9" hard on he has for the Blue. Don’t know what gives but not complaining.

B. Tuned into the MNF game as Jaws was inrowing a Jake/Freeny montage during a

TO right before the half, and he was talking about JAKE LONG. Yes!

Tirico must have written the script for that clip bf the game. There were maybe 5-6 iso clips of their ‘battle’, and Long had double-team help from Smiley (not a chip, pure double team blocking) on all but one. Jake still wound up getting pushed into the QB and/or on his ass in over ½ the clips. Jaws kept right on talking about what a phenomenal job Long was doing. It was so embarrassing I had to change the channel for a few plays to gather myself. When I came back Jake was still on the ground in pass-pro, even with assistance.

C. Did Long get hurt in camp? Did he have offseason surgery? Was he held out of a lot of

preseason shit for some reason and maybe lost his conditioning?

Did he go out on South Beach 1 or 2 nights per week too many? And when he did, was he passing the sure thing, C+, HJ from a Kardashian look alike at 10:30 and trying to wait out the Brook Burke-esque gal who started off dancing on the bar, but by midnight is still only on her 3rd drink deep and surrounded by an ever tightening ring of gay friends who are needlessly "looking out" for her?

Wha-happened?

He doesn’t look like a fat NFL OL by any stretch, but he looks noticeably heavier than last year. He also looked slow and tired. The Fins had more TOP than any losing team in NFL history, and the storyline was about how the Colts D (esp DL) would be folding any minute.

Every time the announcers brought that up a familiar thought floated to me. Why do we assume that offensive players won’t tire before defenders? This game was the perfect example and Long was a microcosm. The Fins set sail on these long grinding drives, but the Colts hung together as they were slowly dragged down the field. Miami executed for long stretches but more often than not ran out of gas first.

D. Freeny is more than a handful for any LT, but Long had more help than all of his ‘08

snaps I watched combined and x 2.

E. Jake played with appalling leverage. This was the most alarming aspect of his

performance. It started with his sets where his back was 6"+ raised above the rest of the line in non-passing situations. Many running plays were draws where he wasn’t asked to do anything other than shove a rushing DE upfield (which he did well). When asked to drive block he usually stood up and leaned on his assignment. Last year when Jake’s assignment was to get to the second level he did so with gusto, regardless of whether the run was designed to his side. When that happened tonight he looked like a WR blocking, just watching the play. When he was blocking playside he often couldn’t decide who to block and didn’t get a piece of anyone.

F. This was a horrid performance. Somewhere between apathetic and tepid. Its difficult

for me to believe that one offseason of cash, acclaim, suntan lotion, and raw foreskin could derail a Jake Long’s passion for football. But there is something physically, mentally, or

conditionally wrong with Jake at this point.

Whatever it is I hope it gets straightened out because the disappointment of watching that far outpaced the joy of watching last season. I’m not saying he’s a bust or will be, but this was a bust-worthy performance.

II. Bigger UM Draft Busts in Recent History

This topic actually came into my head and wouldn’t leave before I realized just how bad Jake was stinking out the joint, because Justin Smiley plays LG next to him.

I don’t see Smiley without thinking of David Baas. Baas was drafted in the 2nd by the 49ers and promptly got hurt and missed his rookie year, then couldn’t beat out Smiley for the starting guard spot (even after Smiley left for Miami last year).

Early 2nd round is an honor for a guard, but I still thought Baas was worthy of a 1st round pick. He was even projected at the bottom of round 1 by some media experts. No matter how ruthless I try to make my judgment of M players going into the draft, my homerism almost always creeps in to some degree. But I wasn’t alone here.

Baas was I guy I watched every run play, then rewound the watch again in slowmo. IMO he was a whisker behind Hutchinson as a college player, and I nearly cried when Seattle took Hutch with the 16th overall pick with the Roar on the clock at #17. In other words, he was a sure MF’ing thing as a pro prospect.

Did I mention my M homerism is irrepressible in evaluating pro prospects?

A. I still shake my head over Baas. I would love to see the stats on the average length of pro

careers, number of starts, etc for guys who miss their whole rookie season with injury. Or otherwise. Thats why someone needs to ring Crabtree’s neck. Uncanny what that does to players.

But Baas missed his first starting year at M and bounced back. He was a flat-out ass kicker. More accolades as a center but that was typical media bullshit. He was a great guard, moved to center in a pinch, that became fluffy, lazy lolmsm story line, and the next thing you know he’s getting post season awards at center. Guards are expected to be strong and he had to be in the 99 percentile in guard strength. A brute. Mauler. Mean streak. But what set him apart even from that was his ability to pull (best I’ve ever seen at M) and block in the screen game.

B. Alan Branch. I was actually advocating the Roar take him with the (I

think) 10th overall pick to play next to Rogers in the 4-3. I know Branch has battled some injuries, but we’re not talking about ACLs and torn triceps here.

Wha-happened?

Knock on Branch coming out was his potential weight problems (legit in my mind at the time) and work ethic (not legit in my mind at the time).

At M Branch wasn’t always at the right weight. But Carr never called out his work ethic. And following Branch’s Fr year he got leaner/meaner every season, which to me indicated good work ethic. And a work ethic with that ability? To me it he’d be a borderline pro-bowl player minimum with good heath.

Show of hands for those who thought Branch was a better pro prospect that Woodley.

C. Marquis Walker. This one is only about 25% on Marquise. He was a hell of a WR at M.

The #1 ranked recruit at the position even though that call was a misfire. But can’t blame Quise for that. Big, velcro hands, knew how to play the position. Ultimately just not that fast. Hey, not all WRs are.

And he squeezed 99.9% out of what he had to work with his sr. season at M. Sure I’d want to punch him in the face right now over the OSU drop, but that was about the only blemish. That team saddled him up like an RB. And Iowa. Side-by-side it was more impressive than Woodson at MSU.

Yea, I said it.

All that don’t make a second round pick. But that was Chuckie’s fault, not Walker’s. Still, I had him pegged for 6th or 7th and NFL career similar to Avant’s now. Walker flamed right out of the NFL even with his 2nd round pick status.

D. Chris Perry. This one really sucked. Would have been shocked if he ever made a pro

bowl, but how was he not 1,000 rusher 300 yard receiver for 4-6 seasons?

Injuries, sure. But he never got on track even when healthy. Too much tread on the tire perhaps. 50 carries sparty?

E. David Terrell. DT? Ugh. A step-slow Michael Westbrook. When Westbrook was

healthy and on his meds he was a force not unlike a Calvin Johnson who would drive you crazy with some drops. So how does he fail to stick on an NFL roster, despite what (to his credit) seemed to be a solid work ethic and commitment to football?

F. Braylon? Stopping now.

III. Fins-Colts Observations

Anyone talking recently on this site about TOP being overrated? Yeah.

This game will be an interesting test case for the those who would argue that leaving your defense out to dry like that will carry over to future games.

NoNon

September 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 AM ^

First off, nothing personal and congrats on the kid but - I'm gonna go ahead and say the reason Mike Tirico was praising Long was because he might know a little bit more football than you...and because he saw the same thing I did: Holding Freeney (1 sack) in check when it mattered and P'wning LBs in that Wildcat package that racked up almost 10 ypc. He's a big part of why they kept the ball 3/4 of the game - but maybe you're right...maybe he is a bust after 1 season of professional football. But if he's a bust then Ginn is a clown for dropping what I thought were two very catchable balls in the endzone, two separate occasions. Maybe if he'd gone to school all four years like Long he'd understand stuff like "trajectory" - oh wait, they don't teach that at tOSU? p.s. - I don't really post that much but a good way to lose points fast is to title a diary that reads that one of the most revered alumni in recent memory is a bust

wishitwas97

September 22nd, 2009 at 11:19 AM ^

2 sacks all season last season? He was stellar in his rookie season. Please stop smoking crack and put it down asap. For some reason, OT who plays well in their 1st year tends to regress in their 2nd season. Happens all the time in the NFL. Marcus McNeil, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Joe Thomas and to name a few have done it.

jokenjin

September 22nd, 2009 at 11:36 AM ^

While reading the NFL Blog on ESPN.com, here are some observations that were made during the game: - "Dolphins tackle Jake Long has done well against pass-rush specialist Dwight Freeney" - Graham And... - "I’ve been struck by how Jake Long, the Dolphins’ giant left tackle, has neutralized Dwight Freeney on so many snaps. Freeney last week influenced the win over the Jaguars in a big way working against rookie Eugene Monroe." - Kuharsky FWIW, Graham is ESPN.com's AFC East main cover guy and Kuharsky is ESPN.com's AFC South main cover guy. They both had equally good impressions of Jake.

Real Tackles Wear 77

September 22nd, 2009 at 11:59 AM ^

...as one of few with a Jake Long avatar, I feel the need to pile on. Jake Long made the Pro Bowl as a rookie last year (extremely difficult, as Pro Bowl voting for OL is often based on reputation and longevity, look at all the OL who make the Pro Bowl every single year). Last night, he looked very impressive against THE top defensive end in the league, and the MNF commentators pointed this out on several occasions. Please, undies22, don't ever post again.

swarwick33

September 22nd, 2009 at 12:11 PM ^

From- http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/miami-dolphins/story/1232258… This is all about the first game against Atlanta. Some quotes to help you out, and maybe make you see things more clearly. From the author (who covers the team everyday)- "Why did he look out of character in the opener? One reason is that he's working with two new linemates, center Jake Grove and right guard Donald Thomas" "It was a rare moment of vulnerability for the Dolphins' star left tackle, already one of the NFL's premier bodyguards at age 24." Dolphins' LG Justin Smiley- "We were also using the silent count a lot because of the noise in the Dome. That puts the left tackle at a disadvantage. He's looking at the [quarterback's] head and back at his guy. It's tough, but everyone has to do it." From Long- "Two sacks -- that's unacceptable,'' Long said. ``We had some screwups. We can't let Chad get hit like that. Their defensive ends got good jumps, and I was late off the ball. I panicked a little, gave them my chest and they bulled me. Abraham is herky-jerky. He can take your inside, your outside." Sounds like a guy who was just beaten twice by one of the best DEs in the NFL, not some one who is a bust.

octal9

September 22nd, 2009 at 1:46 PM ^

I can see this becoming a new euphemism for bad diaries (former or otherwise). "Hey, did you see the new undies22?" "You totally undies22'd that one up" "YO THE_KNOWLEDGE, I'm really happy for you, I'ma let you finish, but undies22 had one of the best (former) diary posts of all time! OF ALL TIME!!"

tomhagan

September 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 PM ^

OP is a fking Dumbass....did you watch the game last night? Long played well...very well. The entire Dolphin OL actually played well. Conclusion: You are a fucking idiot with no idea what you are looking at in a football game. Go away.

Tacopants

September 22nd, 2009 at 6:42 PM ^

Listen, I'm really happy that you learned how to string incoherent thoughts together, and Imma let you finish, but JAKE LONG HAD ONE OF THE BEST SEASONS OF ALL TIME LAST YEAR. /kanye