How many of you have failed to live up to your standards?

Submitted by wolverine1987 on

How many of you believe in fidelity but once cheated? Or believe in not stealing but have stolen? Believe in honestly but have lied? I could go on with a list of sins that would eventually encompass everyone on this blog and on earth. We have all failed at one point to live up to the standards we champion and would wish to communicate to others. 
When we fail to live up to our standards and are caught violating them, does that invalidate the standards themselves? Does that mean our lives have been a lie? Does that mean, as Six Zero wrote today:

"Learning that the ethical standards that went hand in hand with Joe Paterno were not only inaccurate, but has also cost him his immortal job status?  Well, it's like waking up one day and finding that the United States is secretly run by a Communist dictator."

Or, as Brian wrote: "Should we forget all the good Paterno has done in our "rush to judgment"? Yes, and yes. This is a failure so massive it wipes out every positive thing about JoePa, of which there were many."

I don't think so. When honorable people fail to live up to the standards they have set for themselves and for others, they don't reveal themselves to be hypocrites. They reveal themselves to be human. And I don't believe they lose the ability to be called a good person. Nor does that invalidate the standards that they tried to live by, despite a massive failure.

Joe should lose his job. He should have this as part of his legacy. He will suffer in private and public, and that is as it should be. His non-action should be condemned.

I can see how many of you are willing to disagree. To say that this wipes out all the good he has done. To condemn him as a person. To say that the standards were a lie. I just hope you have more understanding friends and famiily around you when you fail.

EDIT: After carefully reading every reply, none of which agreed with me, they seemed to all add up to two points. 1- that not reporting this to the police is worse than any other moral failing, and 2- That we should judge Patero harshly for what he didn't do. I had already made the second point explicitly in my OP above. The point is I'm willing to say that reporting it to his superiors but not the police deserves universal condemnation--but that it doesn't erase all of the good he did for literally thousands. But I'm clearly in a group of one there. As to the first point-I agree. But I stand by my greater point.

Newk

November 10th, 2011 at 12:28 AM ^

While some of the flak you're getting is deserved, I think you have a reasonable point: there is something recognizably human in the colossal, protracted, catastrophic "mistake" Paterno made. Perhaps he found it difficult to believe such terrrible things of a man he knew and trusted. He may have deceived himself into thinking that he had done his duty, that it was up to the University to go further, that he was too closely involved. He may have been afraid for himself and the institutions he had built up.

Point is, Paterno is and remains human, that is, his actions are intelligible, and I think most of us can imagine making mistakes of a similar type.

However, the particulars matter. In this case, the consequences are among the most heinous imaginable. And the power and respect Paterno enjoyed mean he could have easily averted much of it. Life is a "results-based charting service," so to speak. The punishment, in the form of lost admiration and respect if nothing else, have to match the gravity of the specifics of Paterno's offenses. I myself am not prepared, though, to say that Paterno is now or ever was a  monster. I know he has done and still has the capacity to do good, which makes what has transpired all the more tragic and baffling.

HokeHogan

November 10th, 2011 at 1:15 AM ^

who rapes children and you write a response like that? He allowed more children to be molested. What the hell is wrong with you? What else is swept under the rug at psu?

SamIam

November 10th, 2011 at 7:35 AM ^

He he;ped to provide a safe haven for a serial rapist and child molester.  Far worse than any of the things you listed.  He also chose this not once but to let it slide for 10 years!  I may feel a little different if at some point he would have stepped forward shortly after and reported it or something.  The fact is he didnt and was prepared to go to his grave with it.   Selfish and cowardice and not exceptable especially from a life long leader of young men.

Aequitas

November 10th, 2011 at 8:14 AM ^

This thread, the apologetics, the Joe Pa rallies ... wtf is wrong with these people?  How can the real issue be swept aside so easily?  How is the focus of the conversations not on how we protect our kids from monsters?

VSS

November 10th, 2011 at 9:50 AM ^

Sure, I have made mistakes, but I don't ask "Why?" if there are consequences associated with those mistakes. JoePa has done a lot of great things and has had a great run, but made a mistake, and he has to pay the consequences as did the other high-level people who knew and didn't do much. I don't understand the controversy. 

umumum

November 10th, 2011 at 11:17 AM ^

I believe the false moral equivilency aspect has been adequately addressed above.  While implicit throughout, it's not what JoPa "knew" occurred, rather it's what he knew "may have occurred".  And that was enough to do more--much more.

You're at the lake when your child (let alone your wife) comes to you and says that there is another child drowning in the lake.  You go to the lifeguard and report it.  You then leave.  The child drowns.  Begging the answer, did you fulfill your moral duty as a human being?

thereverend

November 10th, 2011 at 11:22 AM ^

This is a horrific tragedy, especially when one considers how much of this could have been avoided. We live in a society where being a sex offender does not carry harsh penalties; imagine how many of these occurences would be reduced if...

 

dmac24

November 10th, 2011 at 12:13 PM ^

     The OP makes a good point reminding us that we are all human and have all made a mistake here or there that violates our own standard of conduct.  There are moments of failure and weakness in our own lives.  It is how we respond and react to those moments that makes the difference in what type of person we are.  Do we cover it up continually, or do we deal with it, correct our mistakes, take the consequences we deserve and do everything we can to make up for it and fix any more problems. 

   In the case of Paterno the problem is not that he made ONE mistake, corrected it, took his consequences and did everything he could to make up for it and fix the problem.  He made MANY.   To report this to his superiors was the correct move.  But after that he made MANY mistakes:

1.  Not reporting the incidents to the police when he first realized his superiors had not

2.  Allowing Sandusky to CONTINUE to access Penn State facilities with his victims

3.  Allowing his own football players that he was responsible for to participate in Sandusky's charity event with the knowledge of what type of person Sandusky was.

4.  Withholding this information for nearly ten years without taking action.

     I'm sure there are more things that could be added but this was not just a one-time event where Paterno made ONE mistake or even a few in a row.  How many times over the last 10 years has he been reminded of these incidents?  Every time he remembered he made a nother choice to cover it up.  Every time he saw Sandusky or was reminded of his charity event he made another choice to do NOTHING. 

  This was NOT A ONE-TIME MISTAKE.  THIS WAS A TEN YEAR COVER-UP AND CONDONING OF A HEINOUS AND HIDEOUS CRIME.  WITH THE RESULT BEING A DESTRUCTION OF HIS OWN MORALS!!

 

GO BLUE!!  :)

bighouseinmate

November 10th, 2011 at 12:16 PM ^

......from the standpoint of JoePa knowing about it, for only a few months or so, and his only action was to report it to PSU admin, before it finally blew up like it did, then the OP has a valid point. However, to let it go on for as long as it did, without any further action on his part, is unacceptable in a moral society.

Solar Bob

November 10th, 2011 at 1:19 PM ^

But mistakes have consequences. Paint a happy face on his actions, ignore the conflict of interest. Say it was denial; being unable to believe that a colleague was capable of doing something so terrible. The consequence of being in a position of power and doing the legal minimum were unspeakable. He failed those kids, he disgraced the university. Failure had consequences, losing his job is one of them.