ThadMattasagoblin

June 6th, 2012 at 10:04 PM ^

MSU fans say that it doesn't matter to them who our biggest rival is yet they are always fretting over being second rate to Ohio.

P.S. you already told us that ur an MSU fan like 5 times.

dearbornpeds

June 6th, 2012 at 10:11 PM ^

     those on the board who live outside of Michigan rarely encounter spartinas and can dismiss them as one would a mosquito.  those of us who are local are subject to the idiotic ravings of alum, casual fans, and certain media types-we tend to place a victory over little brother higher on our list of priorities.

beachbum69

June 6th, 2012 at 11:13 PM ^

  I seriously hope it wasn't me and you haven't been the one marking everything I do as "trolling".  I have posted legitimate, helpful things here over the last week and I've been getting harrassed by SOMEONE for absolutely no reason. 

 

And I also hope it wasn't me because I have never said anything like that.  I actually just came off this past week of hearing that and challenging anyone to prove it and no one has.  I want people to get off my case.  So to say something like "you've said it like 5 times" is completely, absolutely false.  I never have, not one single time, because I'm not.  Just because you go off and say something like that doesn't mean it's true. 

 

*posted before it could get knocked down as "trolling".  =|

Sten Carlson

June 7th, 2012 at 12:56 AM ^

I think the new Big 10 structure is the worst thing that ever happened to the Michigan v. OSU rivalry, and perhaps the best thing that ever happened to the Michigan v. MSU rivalry.  Especially considering the fact that there is a distinct possibility that Michigan and OSU will play each other in back to back games.

Although I agree with Coach Hoke that the rivalry with Ohio is the #1 priority of the Michigan program, I would move MSU up from #2 to #1.5 given the new Big 10 structure. 

Make no bones about it, unless Sparty suddenly has a horrible multi-year collapse, beating MSU is 100% essential to even having a chance to win the Big 10 Conference.

I've never questioned Coach Hoke, but he needs to find a way to get team 133 (and future teams) to match the intensity that MSU brings to the Michigan game.  In the past, Michigan has pretty much just out talented MSU.  But, now Dantonio plays the "disrespect" game masterfully, and his teams come out and play like their absolute hardest agaisnt Michigan -- even to the point of basically keeping Michigan in the game by committing repeated stupid personal fouls.  Strange to me that knowing this Hoke would make comments like the ones in this article.  He didn't out right disrespect MSU, but we all know how they are -- they're going to take this as a slight, and it will be used to fuel their anti-Michigan fire.  Again, I don't like questioning Hoke, but maybe just admitting that they've now moved up to an equal footing with OSU might be more appropriate under the circumstances -- even if it was just to defuse Sparty a bit and give them less ammunition.

 

blacknblue

June 7th, 2012 at 10:08 AM ^

Five years from now Nebraska will be a bigger rival to Michigan than State, and honestly it probably won't take that long. State is benefitting from the new divisions Michigan stumbling, and Nebraska under estimating the B1G. Eventually both Michigan and Nebraska will be the two dominate programs in the division and State will go back to being more of a speedbump than a constant threat. I may be wrong but I really doubt it.

ChicagoB1GRed

June 8th, 2012 at 10:09 PM ^

especially the ND rivalry seems it would become less important as divisional play determines the B1G. You are also spot on that long term the Nebraska-Michigan game will probably  determine the Legends division. 

As a conference newcomer, I'm still surprised how in threads like this Michigan fans prioritize non-con (AL, ND) and out of division (OSU) games at the expense of winning the division. I appreciate the visceral rivlary with OSU but even that game isn't a must win for the division. 

Well, maybe several years in the XII gives me a leg up on the realties of divisional play: No division title---no CCG---no Rose Bowl or National Title---no fun. But that's just me.

 

 

 

 

M-Wolverine

June 9th, 2012 at 12:10 AM ^

Weren't smart enough to make Nebraska-Oklahoma a protected rivalry. You gave away the biggest tradition the school had. For big match-ups with Colorado. See, all the stuff you mention, you can't do that every year. But the years you don't, if you can still beat Ohio, you've done something. There's something to play for. That last game. Likewise, you can have all that in your grasp...and the other team can come in and ruin it. But it's hard to understand if you're not a part of the greatest rivalry in all of sports.

Willis Ward

June 7th, 2012 at 1:29 AM ^

The answer to the question of "which team is the biggest rival?" turns, I think, on what happened in the three big rivalries (OSU, MSU, and ND) during your formative years as a fan.  For me, we dominated MSU so completely during the 80s and 90s (not to mention Lloyd's 6 straight from 2002 - 2007) it will take a lot more than 4 years for me to care about them.  By contrast, even counting the Cooper years, OSU played us more evenly when I was cutting my teeth on the rivalries.  ND matters to me because they owned us in the 80s (when they were better than us) and split with us in the 90s (when we were better than them. (Note - I haven't checked the records on any of what I said above but this is how it felt and that probably matters more than what actually happened for purposes of this conversation). As such, I just can't get as excited/concerned/pissed off about MSU as I do OSU and ND.  But having said that, if your football memories don't go back that far I can understand why the 4 straight skid to MSU makes you care deeply about that game.  I just think in the long view, OSU is definitely a program on par with us and ND, while doing their best to become irrelevant, is pretty close...while MSU is Illinois.

Smash Lampjaw

June 7th, 2012 at 8:32 AM ^

Michigan could beat MSU or Ohio. Chances to beat Alabama in Dallas with most of the country watching are rare. If I could make a deal with the devil I would trade a win here for a loss in any of the other games. After the win I would try to get out of the deal so we could win the national championship.

beachbum69

June 7th, 2012 at 1:37 PM ^

Thad, you didn't run away did you? I have been a member here for about two YEARS longer than you and like I already said, your ridiculous claim never happened. If you could find any single example, let alone five, you would have posted it. What happened? Ya, now it is personal because if you're talking to me you're 1) lying and 2) disabling me from being able to converse here because of your lies.

beachbum69

June 9th, 2012 at 1:42 AM ^

Where?  What comments? 

What about Georgia?  Are you seriously holding on to something you thought you read, by one person, six months ago?  Is it the one example of me telling someone to "enjoy your ACC opponent" which I have already explained ad nauseum as me telling THEM, not all UM fans/posters here?  

Even if you're going to dredge up some thread from six months ago that's one single example.  You claimed five.  So what else?  Or are you just a liar? 

 

If you can't back it up then get out of my way. 

M-Wolverine

June 9th, 2012 at 3:02 PM ^

No one believes you. Every post you have gets negged to be hiddened. No one cares what you have to say. You can cry "prove it!!!, but you're not convincing anyone. You're a joke. Give it up and stop embarrassing yourself. The trolling has played it's course. Congrats; you showed us. But it's just kinda sad now.

beachbum69

June 9th, 2012 at 3:42 PM ^

lol, so you prove it either.  Got it.  

 


Oh ya, because saying that MSU's new QB hasn't proven anything yet and saying that some of our games this year will come down to battles in the trenches is REALLY trolling.  Wow.  Nothing riles up this fanbase like... planning... what we have to do to win... I guess. 

M-Wolverine

June 9th, 2012 at 9:11 PM ^

Already proven, no matter how you twist and spin. Trolling is whatever game you're playing. No one can figure how it gets you your jollies when you're not fooling anybody. It just comes off as pathetic. And no one cares to argue it with you anymore. Just telling you you're getting negged because the act is old, and there's no reason to cling to it anymore. Move along.