Hawaii Coach Talks Michigan
Michigan declined to give them a scrimmage tape.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1120699121355377&id=103874279704538
August 31st, 2016 at 8:56 AM ^
What the fuck kind of request is that?
August 31st, 2016 at 8:59 AM ^
Colorado probably didn't ask that 1997.
That was the last time we played a team to open the season who had already played a game.
August 31st, 2016 at 9:09 AM ^
Michigan's first opponent (ND & Miami University) had played a game prior.
Miami University had a VERY late cancellation in 2004, and could only find a game in "week zero" (USC vs. Virginia Tech was the only other game that day). Benefitted Michigan a little bit, as U-M got to begin their own practice earlier than most other teams in 2004 because of such.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-08-05/sports/0408050310_1_john-…
August 31st, 2016 at 9:10 AM ^
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August 31st, 2016 at 9:11 AM ^
Thanks for the find. So we still had good to great seasons when opening with a team that already played a game.
August 31st, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^
haha, so this week thus far we've found out that WD doesn't like beer AND has his facts wrong.
shaping up to be one helluva week....
August 31st, 2016 at 10:52 AM ^
So what you learn about WD is a major variable in how your week turns out?
August 31st, 2016 at 3:24 PM ^
August 31st, 2016 at 9:16 AM ^
I remember when we used to open the season against Notre Dame, when they had already played a game. We often underperformed in that scenario, so I guess we learned that lesson. In the case of Hawaii, I guess it probably won't turn out too bad.
August 31st, 2016 at 10:01 AM ^
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August 31st, 2016 at 10:51 AM ^
I think I remember one year ND changed their schedule to add a game before the Michigan game when it was previously going to be the opener for both teams. I believe Bo blew a gasket on that one.
August 31st, 2016 at 10:13 AM ^
Notra Shame always has to have their way in little advantages like that. Just like the most recent bullshit. End series at home so the cry babies can have the upper hand ending the series. Now they get to have the next game at home again. Too bad for them the candy asses won't have a warm up game this time and Michigan is going to be ready to smack em. Thrown straight to the wolves first game of the year. Hope them arrogant wanna be best program flakes are ready for it. Man, nothing I can stand worse than someone who thinks they are the best but cant live up to it over and over again. Brian Kelly is such a tool. I'd never play for that clown.
August 31st, 2016 at 11:00 AM ^
Seems like they pulled that bullshit a couple times under Holtz, where UM-ND was supposed to be the first game for both teams, but then ND would sneak one in.
I really do hate ND. More even than OSU and hope we curb stomp them in their own stadium to re-start the series.
August 31st, 2016 at 11:24 AM ^
August 31st, 2016 at 12:17 PM ^
August 31st, 2016 at 12:52 PM ^
CMU beat MSU earier in the afternoon.
/It Was a Good Day
August 31st, 2016 at 1:55 PM ^
My FIRST day of grad school. I remember going like 90 on Hines Park drive to get back home and watch the 4th quarter.
CMU grad, probably the best pair of games I've seen back to back- CMU beating MSU, Michigan beating ND.
August 31st, 2016 at 1:58 PM ^
And we got to see it happen again in '09.
August 31st, 2016 at 3:33 PM ^
Wasn't that the Pruitt era at RB in Mt Pleasant?
August 31st, 2016 at 8:59 AM ^
I did laugh at that one too.
August 31st, 2016 at 9:03 AM ^
This seems to be the appropriate response... think Jimmy said the same thing?
August 31st, 2016 at 9:46 AM ^
August 31st, 2016 at 9:09 AM ^
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August 31st, 2016 at 9:09 AM ^
I should've known.
August 31st, 2016 at 9:22 AM ^
You want what?? sorry i cant hear you must have a bad connection.
August 31st, 2016 at 10:47 AM ^
Most teams share tape of the all 22 view with opponents because it's mutually beneficial to get tape on the other team where you can see the whole field and not just the narrow TV angles.
Hawaii has this from game 1(0) and is willing to share. I'm guessing they're asking in return to get the scrimmage video.
The request is fine, as is Harbaugh's decline.
It ain't gonna matter either way.
August 31st, 2016 at 11:42 AM ^
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August 31st, 2016 at 8:59 AM ^
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August 31st, 2016 at 11:27 AM ^
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August 31st, 2016 at 8:59 AM ^
That QB battle is actually going to happen. Awesome.
August 31st, 2016 at 11:23 AM ^
He sounded like he was already kind of walking back the offer a bit when the reporter told him Harbaugh accepted. It was like he was thinking, "crazy asshole, I wasn't actually expecting you to take my offer seriously."
August 31st, 2016 at 9:11 AM ^
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August 31st, 2016 at 9:00 AM ^
August 31st, 2016 at 9:00 AM ^
That's like going to war and offering to share your bullets with the opposing side.
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August 31st, 2016 at 9:38 AM ^
I think the ask is fine; scrimmage tape would probably amount to early practice position battles where players are working out weaknesses they expect to fix, many guys getting reps won't start, and squads are running vanilla formations to work on fundamentals. The game prep stuff won't be in there.
But as others have pointed out, experience is a particular characteristic of this Michigan team. There are veterans all over the defense and along the O-line. If they want to know what Michigan's gonna look like, they can just look at last season, with some BC footage to get a read on Doc Brown's tendencies.
Long story short, I don't expect anything compromising to be in a scrimmage tape, but hasn't the coach heard of YouTube??
August 31st, 2016 at 9:52 AM ^
And what does it have to do with sports? /s
August 31st, 2016 at 9:56 AM ^
August 31st, 2016 at 9:02 AM ^
Wait.... We have weaknesses?
/s
August 31st, 2016 at 9:03 AM ^
Nope
August 31st, 2016 at 9:41 AM ^
glaring ones!
Sometimes Deveon Smith's left sock is a quarter inch lower than his right (might affect his balance).
Sometimes Ryan Glasgow blinks before mecilessly sacking the QB
Jehu Chesson tends to take deep breaths before outracing everyone to the endzone.
Mason Cole can only block 2-3 defensive lineman at a time.
If Harbaugh's left elbow bends a certain way, you know he's going for 2.
We are an open book of shortcomings.
August 31st, 2016 at 9:49 AM ^
August 31st, 2016 at 9:54 AM ^
whose skepticism is factory installed? Sounds like you're climbinb aboard the hype train just like the rest of us.
August 31st, 2016 at 10:35 AM ^
against cupcakes that is.
Against rivals? Nope.
I see every non-rival conference & non conference game as a win (some easier than others).
But OSU is a machine, at every level.
& while MSU may be down on paper, Dantonio has drunk enough unicorn blood that I never underestimate them.
August 31st, 2016 at 9:48 AM ^
LT, LG, LB, FB, backup WDE and backup safety are question marks. Not all will be weaknesses since this is as of the Spring Game (pre-submarine), but odds are at least one of them will be. None of this is a surprise, though, and honestly this doesn't give an opponent much to work with. Harbaugh won't even have to use a FB if they're not ready -- we can do just fine with a single-back look, with our D-line the linebackers may not even be relevant, and backups won't play more than 30% of snaps IF they are serious liabilities. That leaves the left side of our O-line but surely every opponent has decided by now they're going to attack that and see what they get.
And that's the best-case scenario for Hawaii.
August 31st, 2016 at 11:46 PM ^
I for one would love to see Michigan go to a 2-TE Double Flanker look (something like Colorado ran in the mid-90s) much of the season as their base.
August 31st, 2016 at 9:03 AM ^
Seems like a strange request, and it makes sense we said no. And Michigan is probably showing more in its scrimmages right now than it's going to against Hawaii on Saturday.
August 31st, 2016 at 9:09 AM ^
August 31st, 2016 at 9:15 AM ^
Fair is for communists. This is college football.
We'll be playing on the same field with the same ball. That's fair enough.