FYI: CFP Seeding Announcement 12:15pm Sunday on ESPN
Not news but since I had to look up the actual time, I thought I’d pass it along. Show starts at noon, top 4 announced at 12:15.
December 4th, 2022 at 2:31 AM ^
There may well be a surprise. Saban made the case as succinctly as it could possibly be made during his halftime interview. Basic essence/paraphrase: if Ohio State and Alabama played, who would be favored - that is the team that should be in. That answer would be Alabama.
December 4th, 2022 at 2:38 AM ^
Nick should have thought of that when he was losing 2 games and barely winning against Texas and Texas A&M.
December 4th, 2022 at 2:39 AM ^
There has been all this chatter about “no two loss team has ever made it” - thus the point you’re making - but… two losses on the last play of the game, both on the road, or one loss blown out at home? Clear choice.
December 4th, 2022 at 9:29 AM ^
LOL very convenient facts. How about two wins both on the last play of the game against unranked teams? Nice try Old Nick.
December 4th, 2022 at 2:42 AM ^
But the point still remains. The job of the committee is to put in the four best teams. Which makes Saban’s point brilliant and spot on. You make the point you just did all day and night long, but the fact is Alabama would be favored in a matchup with Ohio State.
December 4th, 2022 at 2:41 AM ^
He provides food for thought but that’s not how any of this works.
December 4th, 2022 at 2:43 AM ^
It’s not, or rather hasn’t been, but it IS how it supposed to work.
December 4th, 2022 at 9:37 AM ^
That’s not how it’s supposed to work. The bball tournament isn’t picked based on Kenpom ratings, it’s based on what you did on the court.
same thing applies here
December 4th, 2022 at 3:30 AM ^
Disagree with Saban.
A month from now, OSU will be full strength. On Dec 31st, OSU would be a small favorite over Bama. OSU is the 4th seed. It's over. Saban's grasping at straws.
#GoBlue
December 4th, 2022 at 8:56 AM ^
Found Mrs. Saban's account.
I doubt Nick is on message boards.
December 4th, 2022 at 8:57 AM ^
He forgot to mention that Alabama was also favored against LSU and Tennessee.
December 4th, 2022 at 9:30 AM ^
Too bad they don't have a "play-in?" Bowl this weekend where the 2 highest rated teams NOT in a conference championship game face off.
I'd actually bet Bama beats Ohio State.
December 4th, 2022 at 2:40 AM ^
Hoping to play TCU, but hoping to play Ohio State even more! Let’s go!!
December 4th, 2022 at 3:15 AM ^
I feel like there’s an interesting split in Michigan fans on this point. I’d 100% rather play TCU.
Was really hoping OSU wouldn’t make it at all but will settle for Georgia whomping them. Even if OSU was a weaker team than TCU I’d still rather not play OSU a second time. I think it’s a we already beat these guys let them fade into the background for the next twelve months and we can go on to bigger things mentality. What have they done to deserve a chance for a rematch so soon?
December 4th, 2022 at 3:37 AM ^
OSU has done nothing to deserve a rematch, but this Michigan team is destined to beat them and CJ Stroud knows it. Would love to see it again
December 4th, 2022 at 4:39 AM ^
If they split them up and both win for a rematch in The National Championship, fine. A game for the ages.
Short of that, OSU has done nothing to warrant a rematch. I don't care who is saying what, I'll believe TCU stays at 3 when I see it on my screen. Until then I have a strange feeling that the rematch may happen in the Semifinals.
But I'd much rather play TCU for the new factor and because both teams have earned the matchup. If your desire is a Michigan national title, you want OSU playing UGA. The odds are much higher with TCU and the winner of that matchup than OSU and then UGA. So, no, I don't want an OSU rematch unless it's in the title game.
December 4th, 2022 at 3:26 AM ^
#1 GA
#2 UM
#3 TCU
#4 OSU
Bet your house on it. It's a done deal. It's over. Looking forward to GA mauling OSU. TCU is another Ohio State-light; good matchup for UM.
Gonna be UM vs GA for the NC. UM would have to play the perfect game and GA would have to cough the ball up a couple of times for UM to defeat GA, but UM has a better chance of defeating GA this season than last season.
#GoBlue
December 4th, 2022 at 4:54 AM ^
I think you're right but I'm not as sure as you are. I can see a lot of justification in their minds for putting TCU at 4, as awful and backward of a decision as that would be.
To me the Bama argument isn't for Bama as much as it is for TCU being put at 4. Bama will be left out but they aren't asking for OSU's spot, they're asking for TCU's. They want OSU 3 and Bama 4. Even giving them the time to grovel for a spot to me is a tell from people in the know. I could be wrong but I think Saban was begging for TCU's spot, what is in his mind the 4th spot.
He won't get it but it gives The Committee the perfect avenue to hand TCU 4 as if they're doing them a favor. If you listened to Duggan's post game, he's sobbing and saying "if they put us in", he even said "let us in" a couple times. It didn't sound like a guy that knew they were in regardless, let alone sticking at 3. Now, he has no idea but it struck me as a player sensing the possibility that if they stay it they'll barely stay in...that they'll have to fend off Bama for a spot and that means landing at 4.
But I don't know and it's all based on how insane and illogical The Committee has been in the past. We'll see and hope you're right as that's the only seeding that seems fair to me.
December 4th, 2022 at 8:59 AM ^
This all sounds correct to me...and that's what makes me nervous.
December 4th, 2022 at 3:41 AM ^
#1 Georgia
#2 Michigan
To me those are the only teams that should be in a "playoff" at this point.
December 4th, 2022 at 9:00 AM ^
A BCS system, a BCS system, my kingdom for a BCS system.
December 4th, 2022 at 7:22 AM ^
The committee used the argument of best team when it suits them. They will also throw in the importance of conference championship when it fits the narrative. It seems NC State AD is the chair. Why would he care if SEC gets two teams.
I personally think TCU, USC, OSU and Bama all have reasons to be in 3 and 4 spots.
Committee can use any excuse to put any of them in.
TCU--One close loss in championship game when two of the four were sitting at home. Good wins against multiple top 25 teams but no great wins.
USC--One close loss on the road and another loss to the same team in championship when their spectacular QB was injured and game was close in 4th quarter (Chair made this point on TV). Defense is not very good but Caleb can beat anyone. Besides two of the four were sitting at home. In regular season, USC has better wins including a dominant win against ND.
OSU--Nice wins against ND and PSU but struggled against many teams until pulling away in the 4th quarter. Played well against #2 team at home for a half but we're no match in the second half. Besides #2 team did not have their best players. Defensively better than USC but is not that much better since PSU, MD, NU played them close and UM destroyed that defense.
Bama-- Close wins and close losses. Easily could have lost 4 but could have won in those two losses. Gave up way too many points to TENN. LSU won a 2 point conversion at the end. Texas did not have their starting QB. Did not play Georgia, the best team in the country. No sexy wins but does not have bad losses.
Committee can say whatever they want to justify their final 4. They don't really care about conference championship because OSU has been chosen before without playing in the championship. To me, the committee made it clear from the beginning that the past teams carry value. There is a reason Clemson was #4 and OSU was #2 even though they did not play that well in the last few games. They did not put OSU as #4 over USC. Would they punish USC because they lost that way to UTAH? They very well could.
Who knows what they are going to do. I think it is a tossup and they are going to make a case based on their decision.
I personally think TCU is in.
The other team can be any of the three and the committee will justify it anyway they want as they don't follow a golden rule and it is subjective.
December 4th, 2022 at 8:16 AM ^
I think you’re right about the committee having no truly fixed standards when it comes to selection and seeding. That’s why I think it’s very possible that they’ll have us at 2 and OSU at 3.
The fact that as recently as last year they specifically avoided having Alabama and Georgia play each other in the semi in order to maximize the chances of an all-SEC final doesn’t mean that they will take the same approach to Michigan and OSU.
To the contrary, I think institutional CFB power is heavily weighted towards the SEC, and that power would regard an all-BIG national title game as a disaster. Slotting Michigan & OSU at 2 and 3 eliminates that possibility.
December 4th, 2022 at 8:23 AM ^
This is 100 percent on the money. Even though they've done the "no rematch" fudging for the SEC multiple times, there's no reason to believe they'll show the B1G the same respect.
December 4th, 2022 at 7:29 AM ^
13 predictions for the top 4. Every single one is UG UM TCU OSU.
December 4th, 2022 at 9:13 AM ^
You wanna be the three seed ? You don’t get blown out at home by 22 !!! You don’t sit on your ass while a team that has 5 top 25 wins loses by a FG in OT in a conference championship game ! We will see how much pull Warde has in that room … not much I think !!!
December 4th, 2022 at 9:31 AM ^
Anticipation and drama about the #3 & #4 ranked teams. Odds favor TCU to hold #3. #4 is up for grabs.
Big question is whether Michigan fans would rather see OSU or 'Bama at #4. IMO, I'd rather have 'Bama #4. I don't want Buckeye fans to start dreaming of a revenge game against Michigan in the CFP. Their one loss, at home to Michigan is worse than 'Bama's two losses.
It's a matter of pick your poison. (In a short time, we'll know)
December 4th, 2022 at 10:30 AM ^
I think it will be 1.Georgia, 2. Michigan, 3. OSU, 4.TCU
The thinking is nobody is going to beat Georgia so let them destroy TCU. Have Mich v. OSU rematch for ratings then whoever wins that play Georgia for ratings. They won’t risk TCU beating Michigan and having a TCU Georgia NC.
I hope I’m wrong because this would mean OSU has only been rewarded for getting clowned on their home turf. But then again Georgia is the #1 seed and should get the weaker opponent.
It sucks but with the way college football is going we need to start getting used to rematches and “The Game” perhaps not meaning as much anymore.