Forbes article on hating ND

The reason I hate ND is because they somehow think their athletes are academically superior to other schools when in reality they go head to head with us and OSU for all the same recruits.

I'd put Penn State in that same boat too.

I feel dirty knowing I'm gonna root for the SEC.

Beat the Irish!

They don't really touch on the thing that makes me strongly dislike ND.  It's the way many of their fans find some kind of religious narrative behind their successes.   Fans on ND message boards will ask each other to light candles in the grotto for the football team's success.  Even though the best player is Mormon and many others are not Catholic, they act like they're crusading against heathens every week (instead of, you know, playing a football game).  The notion that there could be good, God-fearing people on other teams is completely lost on them.  

I'm sorry, but that article sucks. I laughed out loud at this claim:

"While most schools are regional in fan-base, ND is international."

I loved the winning record from 1988-93.  Wtf! Why not a more relevant 5 year period, like the most recent years?  Why in the hell go back and cherry pick a five year period from 20 years ago?

I have no problem with Notre Dame, but then I don't know more than 1 or 2 alums/fans. To me it's a rivalry based on mutual respect and similarity. 

Go Irish, viva la Midwestern football 

I can't believe no one is bringing up the Declan Sullivan incident. This was a disgrace and people seem to be content to bury their hands in the sand and pretend this never happened. An institution than constantly lets everyone know they are "better" and have "higher standards" is selling their integrity to win some football games. What a joke.

See, this is why I hate notre dame. I don't hate them for all the reasons this guy says I hate because they continuously claim that these are the reasons I hate them. Notre Dame is Lebron James writ large.

Pompous, self aggrandizing, country club elitist pricks.

You know, I don't really hate Notre Dame. Dislike, very much, but not hate. This season is the first time in my football-conscious lifetime that they've been relevant, and I would rather see anyone dethrone the SEC than root for Alabama / Georgia. (That said, I think Alabama will destroy Notre Dame.)

And if Notre Dame takes the championship, it will be all the sweeter when we hand them their first loss since 2011 next September.

how anyone can hate Te'o is beyond me 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9yyzGs83aw

"That could be considered code for, “Our other sports can share sweat with you, but our football is more special than yours.” - from the article, in reference to moving all sports but football to the ACC

I don't hate ND per se - I do have criticisms of the way they seem to manage their relationships with other conferences and programs, and yes,  their attitude does rub me the wrong way as well. 

In my mind, that statement above is sort of what they are telling the ACC (and what they told the Big East, even blowing up their TV deal because they were a voting member, then promptly leaving the conference). When Comcast starts inserting executives in various positions at NBC, I am forced to wonder if the loyalty will erode over time. I wonder if they will be forced to reconsider how special it is if they want to remain on television past the middle  of this decade actually - the NBC deal expires in 2015, after all. They've already sold out a portion of their own tradition by agreeing to play five ACC teams each year. Would ND really leave millions on the table in  potential conference payout just because of this belief of theirs? If so, it would be boldly disingenuous, in my opinion. 

My main issue with ND winning a title is

a) Future coverage of how glorious ND is will be 5x worse than current coverage of how glorious the SEC is

b) ND winning a title directly affects us as they are in our 'peer group' in the midwest. We battle with them and OSU directly for the top midwest talent. If Alabama wins another title, they may pull 1-2 extra guys out of the midwest but functionally nothing will change for Michigan

the guy more than his magazine. No polo. 

Just thought I'd take this new thing for a test drive. 

As far as who to root for in the game, no matter what, media types will still be claiming SEC is the best in the land.  No matter how much this annoys me, a ND win isn't going to change that at all.  ND isn't even in a conference, so SEC will still be the strongest conference in the minds of most media members.  With this, and as others have noted, our direct competition for recruits with ND, a victory by Alabama is the lesser of two evils.

They annoy me because as long as I've known them they've been the snobbiest of snobs, with every ND fan Ive known has been a deranged asshole slappy, and the press has all but labeled them Americas Team no matter how much they're hated. It all just makes no sense to me. They've sucked royally for as long as I can remember, and this year has been the king of undeserved accolades. They've stumbled backwards, bad officiated, injured quarterbacked, weak scheduled, and just plain lucked their way into an undefeated season, narrowly avoiding upsets by a middle of the pack Big East team, 2 6-6 B1G teams, and lowly BYU, yet the overhype fest is reaching epic new heights. I hate teams and players that are overhyped, I really hate ones that act like their shit don't stink on top of it. The press reminded Michigan fans unceasingly how many days it'd been since Michigan beat Ohio, yet we had been in the Championship hunt quite a few times, ND had been irrelevant on the field for 25 years and the press basically ignored it the entire time, waiting with baited breath for them to dominate any second now, no matter how terrible they were. It's just stupid how ESPN constantly sucks NDs dick when other teams have larger fanbases, better traditions, or most importantly, many are just much better teams. My grandfather would strongly debate that they've won "the right way" too.