Deadspin writer skewers John Beilein
I think this Laura Wagner person should hear from Michigan fans. Blaming John Beilein for the problems in college basketball is laughable:
https://deadspin.com/if-john-beilein-is-such-a-good-person-why-was-he-a-col-1834763261
Not giving her a click. Just another instance of shitspin being shitspin.
Shitspin being shitspun.
She likes avocado on her toast. She's angling for a spot on ESPN with this shit.
Avocado toast is lit tho.
Try avacado bagel with plain cream cheese. Game changer
Buttered bagel with avocado and sea salt is pure magic. We call it a fat sandwich in the Panda household.
Steak and whole milk for some. Turkey subs for others.
Butter does not belong on a bagel...this is sacrilege to true bagel eaters.
You can keep your draconic bagel ways - butter on (certain) bagels is <smacks lips against fingers>.
You probably enjoy ketchup on your hot dog.
Jalapeño cheddar bagel with jalapeño cream cheese.
Totally worth the burning diarrhea.
My food hot take is avocados and guacamole are overrated. I remember like 10 years ago when hipsters and others were obsessed with bacon. Bacon everything. Bacon memes. Guess it's the avocado's turn.
Actually bacon and avacado on toast is sublime.
I love avocado and I love toast. Avocado toast is disgusting.
She's not skewering Beilein. She's skewering a system that profits off of unpaid labor.
Yeah, that article is most certainly not a shot at Beilein
Well that's to be expected these day's when most people only read the first sentence of anything and just assume the rest.
Ya this rage against Beilein is not how I read the article at all. I read the article as her annoyance with the take havers in professional media using Beilein as some exemplar of truth in an industry that by its very nature exploits the power dynamic between young men who have to play in college in order to achieve their dream and the NCAA that is created to exploit them.
It's also worth mentioning that she is an alumnus and has written positively about the program in the past.
True dat.
She's want to argue the latter but can't so it without making tortured analogies and baseless arguments about a mindset.
“Player retention” and “roster continuity” are euphemisms. When a coach complains about this, remember, he’s complaining about losing his unpaid labor force, without which he certainly would not be raking in the big money. Objectively, what these insiders are saying is that Beilein was upset that the unpaid workers he was managing were prioritizing their interests over his own; this is rhetorically posed, though, as “frustration”—the anger of a good man at a system that has betrayed him.
She then goes on to complain that Beilein following the rules made the NCAA, and being distressed by how often they are flouted by others, is a sign that he is in on the scam and approves of it. The reason he's bothered by guys leaving early isn't a multi-faceted one having to do with a loss of good players, a sense that guys are jumping too early, and that it creates perverse incentives for people to abuse, but only a selfish annoyance at having to recruit.
I am 100% on the side of paying players and giving them freedom to do what they want with their lives. But she could have written this article mo the ago and could have made all the same points, only it would have landed like a wet fart because nothing about it is original beyond dragging John Belien, and more appropriately the media's admittedly-obnoxious over-sentimentalization of his departure, into the mix to generate interest. It's cynical bullshit Deadspin falls into sometime, and people reading it as such aren't wrong.
Well if that's true, that's a false premise right from the get go.
Well, that was a disgusting piece written by a young girl that can't spell 'sports' because she's never played. She clearly has an issue with college sports, and expects 'the party' to cover bills for people that decide not to work.
Don't waste your clicks... I couldn't finish reading that self-righteous bullshit.
I love John Beilein, but her issue with college sports is correct and good.
I don't think anybody is arguing with her premise, only how she got to the end.
Yeah I only made it a few paragraphs in. I clicked to look at her other work. She has some issues.
want to lay out what her "issues" are in your mind?
I'm guessing the "she" part counts as an issue when it comes to having an opinion on sports.
I'm guessing the "she" part counts as an issue when it comes to having an opinion
What is between the author's legs has nothing to do with it.
What kind of garbage is this:
While Rosenberg is jerking off into his tear-stained hanky
“Player retention” and “roster continuity” are euphemisms. When a coach complains about this, remember, he’s complaining about losing his unpaid labor force.
Clay doesn’t bother to grapple with why college basketball is “ruthless, backstabbing, underhanded, sleazy and, in some cases, criminal,” or with why Beilein, who has spent his entire career in and ascended to the peak of this field, is supposed in any way to be somehow apart from it
Try reading more than the 1st sentence next time before attacking a poster with passive-aggressive suggestions of misogyny.
Dude you’re telling on yourself. Go for a walk around the block or yell into your pillow and try this one again
I have ZERO idea of what you wrote.
What I tried to do is show, using the authror's own words, is that it's not about gender but the stupidity and crassness of their article.
"I couldn't finish reading that"
You really probably should have so that you wouldn't sound ignorant and self-righteous.
People graduate college owing 6 figures, athletes who get scholarships get free school, free books, free room and board, free food, etc.
I'm so sick of hearing about how athletes should get paid,
The people who owe 6 figures are not contributing millions upon millions of dollars of value to the university. Athletes are. They deserve the be fairly compensated for that. Until they are, the system is fundamentally immoral and must be destroyed.
I'm way more onboard with paying college athletes now but to play the other side, do CEO's split profits equally amongst all of the employees?
Business employees are not prohibited from negotiating their compensation, and are not banned from employment if they do so. They're also not required to undergo mandatory 1 year unpaid internships that generate millions of dollars for their employer.
Let's hear your plan then. It's real easy to stand on your soapbox and demand change, it's something else entirely to actually have a plan for said change.
How would a paid model work that would be fair for all college sports? What would inspire someone to attend a 'lesser' revenue generating institution? If you are paying all college athletes, will a swimmer make the same type of money as a football player? Will this be a fluctuating rate depending on a bowl game or not, or prime time games, or concession sales?
I'm not arguing in favor of the current model. But players like Devin Bush and Rashan Gary had free room and board for 3 years and earned the right to get drafted and these guys are financially set for life now. Gentry signed a deal that ensures 6 figures even if he doesn't make the team in the pros. Would I sign up for a deal that gave me a free education / room and board if that increases my exposure and chances for big money after my 'internship'? Yeah. I wasn't making 6 figures after 3-4 years of college.
Thanks, seafood... I get so tired of all the hand-wringing about how unfairly college athletes are treated. The devil is in the details and not one person has come up with a plan that satisfies Title IX.
And by the way no one is forcing these guys to play college sports. They accepted the conditions of their employment - free education in exchange for playing a game. They are free to leave any time they want, enroll at U-M or anywhere else as a student (and pay for it), join a trade, or work at McDonald's. No one is forcing anyone to do anything.
...and if they have so much value - they can play professionally everywhere but the NBA.
G-League and dozens of foreign leagues will pay them if they're "generating millions". They don't need to go to college.
I'd give my left one to be, ahem, "exploited" by the University of Michigan Athletic Department all the while they are raking in millions.
Instead of having to live in Ypsi, go to Washtenaw Community College for a year, and work 3 jobs and pretty much didn't sleep for the other three years in A2.
Shall we continue to build palace after palace for the rich? Or shall we aspire to a more noble purpose and build decent housing for the poor? How does the senate vote?
Most athletes are just anonymous bodies on the team. It's the institution, coaching, marketing, and your allegiance to your alma mater that makes college athletics worth alot.
Disagree with me about the actual worth of athletes? Then why do the same schools and coaches seem to win year after year?
Bag men.
Doesn't Title IX dictate that all college athletes be treated the same? There isn't enough money to go around.
The solution to this issue is for 18 year olds who want to earn coin to into a minor league system instead of college.
Zion Williamson will profit far more from his year at Duke than Duke made off of him, and far more than Duke would ever have paid him.
But he still got $0 for his time at Duke but Duke made money off of him, so did the networks and the NCAA. And what if he suffered a career-ending injury when his shoe blew out? He'd be shit out of luck.
Students doing research for the University put far more $$$ into its coffers than athletes do.
Where's their extra pay?
Can we get over this everybody-is-a-victim thing for people who actually have a pretty damn good thing going?
18-22 yr olds are making 6 figs in value, I worked for a large company who made millions and millions in profits. I made $12 in the Bedt But shipping / receiving department in college
So play a sport that millions of people want to buy tickets and watch you play on TV. Then you might feel underpaid. Oh but scholarships and free books and dorm food. Yay!
I'd be more onboard for regulating these ridiculous cable TV contracts and monopolies, thereby making cable TV cheaper and hopefully seeing fewer advertisements. The games will remain the same.
Except that if it does not say "Michigan" or "Duke" on your jersey, there are NOT millions of people who want to buy tickets and watch you play on TV.
It takes more than just a bunch of players running around.
Players count, but let's not overstate it. The institutions do to. Significantly.