Coaching Rumor Mill Picking up again -- UM Headlining it?
I was wondering if anyone else heard the Mark May interview from an Arizona radio station where he says "an insider has informed him that Michigan might be brokering a deal for RR to go to UT or Clemson since his offense fits down there better." I know UT is out now that Kiffin is down there but does Clemson really hold any weight as true? What are all of your thoughts?
Here is the link -- the discussion is in the middle of the broadcast...around the 6 1/2 minute mark or so.
http://ktar.net/blogs/gash/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/11-25-mark-may-40…
November 30th, 2008 at 8:45 AM ^
Leaving us for Clemson? Now that's a riot.
Marcus is apparently a few credits away from his journalism degree. That sounds more like a extra credit assignment gone bad than news.
November 30th, 2008 at 9:12 AM ^
I'd be surprised but I wouldn't laugh it off. Anything can happen.
November 30th, 2008 at 9:21 AM ^
was just making that up. the Clemson job is going to the intern coach. plus why in the world would he leave UM for Clemson? he wouldnt.
November 30th, 2008 at 9:33 AM ^
I can think of about a million reasons he'd leave for Clemson... personnel that fit his offense, alums and a fanbase who wouldn't be calling for his head from the moment he got the job, less invasive press, an environment that is much closer to home than cold, liberal Ann Arbor. The arrogance of "Nobody would leave Michigan!" should be a thing of the past, parity is the name of the game.
That said, it's not going to happen.
November 30th, 2008 at 10:49 AM ^
in why you think they're personnel is suited for his offense. it really isn't
November 30th, 2008 at 11:03 AM ^
"The arrogance of "Nobody would leave Michigan!" should be a thing of the past, parity is the name of the game."
It shouldn't be. Nobody would ever leave Michigan for Clemson. That's not arrogance. That's reality.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:03 PM ^
Why wouldn't they? Can you honestly say in this day and age Michigan is a better job than Clemson? This is the kind of thing we make fun of Notre Dame fans for thinking.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:11 PM ^
"Can you honestly say in this day and age Michigan is a better job than Clemson?"
In any day and age past, present, or future. It's not even close.
Maybe you make fun of ND fans for thinking like this, I don't. We're talking about Clemson, not USC, Florida, or Oklahoma or something.
+1 to what Ninja Football said.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:21 PM ^
And what makes Michigan a better job? Tradition?
Quick question... would you rather have $4 million a year the chance to compete for a national championship or $2 million, 8-4 and tradition?
November 30th, 2008 at 12:35 PM ^
but I don't know any other way to say this. If you don't know why Michigan is a better job than Clemson, then you don't know dick about college football.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:40 PM ^
No, I just don't buy into the notion that there are 5 or 10 programs that are just so much better than anybody else. LSU was a mediocre at best school until Saban came in... I wonder if anyone would turn that job down? Ditto Florida pre-Spurrier or FSU pre-Bowden. If you can't see that parity exists in college football outside of the "traditional powers", especially in an era where every game is on national TV and every school has a chance at a national title... you clearly don't know dick about the game, either.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:52 PM ^
"No, I just don't buy into the notion that there are 5 or 10 programs that are just so much better than anybody else."
Well, there are. There is a reason why coaches from that handful of schools leave only when they retire or get fired, but never for another job.
Saban wouldn't have left Michigan for LSU.
Spurrier wouldn't have left Michigan for Florida.
Bowden wouldn't have left Michigan for FSU.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:53 PM ^
Schiano would have left Rutgers for Michigan in a heartbeat!
Wait, he didn't. Because it's not the be all, end all college football job. Accept it.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:55 PM ^
I thought we were talking about leaving Michigan.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:58 PM ^
Alright... remember when Bo laughed off Texas A&M's offer because they weren't Michigan?
What's that? He almost took the job?
November 30th, 2008 at 1:01 PM ^
"He almost took the job?"
He was offered four times his salary to leave for A&M but he stayed. You're making my point for me. Thanks.
November 30th, 2008 at 1:01 PM ^
Why did he turn it down again? Because Michigan was soooo much better? No, it was out of loyalty to his players and because Domino's matched the financial commitment. If Bo were of this generation I can assure you the loyalty factor wouldn't be as large as it was.
November 30th, 2008 at 1:04 PM ^
head coach leaves for a place like Clemson or Texas A&M you can bump this thread and tell me, "I told you so."
If we live that long, that is.
LOL
November 30th, 2008 at 1:11 PM ^
The odds of it happening are slim, I never said they weren't. I'm just not going claim there is zero chance anyone would ever consider making such a move. Like a moron.
November 30th, 2008 at 1:14 PM ^
You weren't saying the "odds were slim" earlier. You said you could think of a "million reasons" he would leave for Clemson.
Like a moron.
btw, have you found a poll that says fans don't want a playoff yet???
hahaha
November 30th, 2008 at 1:16 PM ^
Yes, then I said he wouldn't. Moron.
And I was never looking for one, as I never claimed one existed. Has anyone ever told you that you're an enormous asshole?
November 30th, 2008 at 1:17 PM ^
"Has anyone ever told you that you're an enormous asshole?"
:(
November 30th, 2008 at 1:20 PM ^
That ":(" was awesome. I don't really think you're an asshole... just really argumentative. Anyone who puts up with the Bucktrash everyday should be a saint.
November 30th, 2008 at 1:48 PM ^
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November 30th, 2008 at 1:54 PM ^
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November 30th, 2008 at 9:36 AM ^
so if this is the coaching rumor mill... i just talked to my friend who is good friends with CW's family back in Rhode Island (he's actually sitting in his seats at Steelers-Patriots tonight) and apparently Weis is coming home back to the east coast, for good. *apparently* he's just too embarrassed how thing's have turned out and it appears things are over at ND. this is all word of mouth from my friend.
November 30th, 2008 at 11:44 AM ^
Given the look on Weis's face during the halftime interview last night... I would not be the least bit surprised at this.
Re: Rodriguez to Clemson/UT. I would be concerned, out of due acknowledgment that anything is possible, except that this info came from Mark May
November 30th, 2008 at 9:57 AM ^
as you said UT gone, and Clemson is most definitely going to Dabo... especially since he beat the 'Cocks.
Plus, May's an idiot - been hanging around the Holtz "hate Michigan" Kool-Aid to long
November 30th, 2008 at 10:00 AM ^
4 or 5 more players gone.
November 30th, 2008 at 10:02 AM ^
Here's what happened:
Mark May and Plaxico Burress decided to have a "Who's the bigger idiot" contest.
Mark May made this statement, and Plax had no choice but to shoot himself in order to even the score. Maybe. Mark may still be ahead.
November 30th, 2008 at 1:47 PM ^
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh!!!!
Too funny.
I think they're both trying to out-do Lou Holth when he compared Rodriguez to Hitler.
November 30th, 2008 at 10:37 AM ^
Excellent, Ninja!
I don't think it's "Michigan arrogance" to say RichRod wouldn't leave right now - it's practicality. I wouldn't go so far as to say no one would leave Michigan (although not many would, as I still think most would consider coaching college football's winningest program one of the ten best jobs in the country), but who would leave it after one year, particularly one that was not unexpected in its badness?
As mentioned above, May's an idiot. So's Plaxico, but that's a different matter entirely.
November 30th, 2008 at 10:48 AM ^
as yes you can laugh it off
November 30th, 2008 at 10:53 AM ^
RR wouldn't leave Michigan right now.
November 30th, 2008 at 10:57 AM ^
is a Hooker with PMS and a yeast infection.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:07 PM ^
Brodie, Notre Dame is our evil twin. Leaving Michigan for Clemson would be like leaving Alabama for Wisconsin. Or leaving USC for Missouri. Or Texas for Oregon.
Plus, it''d be the death knell of his credibility and an admittance of defeat. I realize you're trying to be logical about where we are, but we're still way up the ladder from Clemson.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:12 PM ^
And thus, Michigan might not also. Wow, some insider.
November 30th, 2008 at 1:14 PM ^
is a destination job in every sport. is the rule 100% set in stone? no... but 99%, yes.
November 30th, 2008 at 1:51 PM ^
Historically, over many coaching administrations, there are a number of elite football schools. Michigan is one of these. Clemson is not. This is an accepted fact. There are various reasons that may contribute to this phenomenon but there must exist some intrinsic advantages to account for the observed consistency. This is not to say that a new school cannot rise in the ranks because they can. Clemson does not have the history of excellence that Michigan does. Therefore it may be argued Clemson is not as good a job as Michigan. This is based on observation not arrogance.
I do not know RR so I cannot say what he will do. He may leave for Clemson. That would be a very bad decision, however, and RR strikes me as smart man. Presumably, it will never get any worse for RR at Michigan. He has survived the first transition year. If he leaves for Clemson then that is all that will be remembered of his Michigan tenure. He will then undergo another transition year at Clemson. That sequence of events will change him from one of the most admired young coaches in the college ranks to a job hoping, loser with no loyalty. Leaving WVU and last season are a sunk cost. I have to believe RR is looking forward and not backwards. All this talk about poor weather, invasive media, and demanding alumni strikes me as the self loathing of a Michigan fan. RR is a competitor. He had to know much of this would come with the Michigan job. He certainly knew it was cold in A2, for instance. It can be assumed he wants to win on the biggest stage and won’t be dissuaded by one bad season.
November 30th, 2008 at 1:50 PM ^
and Michigan? Herb's statement on the eve of last college football season SEC Championship game and now Mark's,*I Heard It Through The Grapevine* rumour. I,for one,don't believe R2 will bolt after one season because of weather or personal. He knew this accepting the job that it was going to take time form the *vision* he envision for Michigan.
However it does make for interesting Internet chatter...going to pop some cheese popcorn,wait for the next silly rumour.
November 30th, 2008 at 7:46 PM ^
UT as in Texas or Tennessee?
Texas is locked up for Muschamp(sp?) after Brown is gone. I wouldn't take too much credit to anything Mark May says. I'm sure he and Lou Holth have been lobotomized.
November 30th, 2008 at 7:55 PM ^
By definition, you need a brain to have a lobotomy.
November 30th, 2008 at 8:09 PM ^
frontal lobotomy. Bad choice Mark!