mgeoffriau

February 6th, 2023 at 12:21 PM ^

Did Partridge's recruiting reputation hold up at Ole Miss? I was just looking through his list of top all-time recruits and there's basically nothing of note at Ole Miss, it's all from his UM tenure.

Or is it just that as Co-DC and a position coach, he wasn't really tasked with recruiting responsibilities (which would seem like a huge failure on Ole Miss' part)?

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WayOfTheRoad

February 6th, 2023 at 12:43 PM ^

I'm wondering this as well because it is a common thing that a guy goes from HS to college and does a great job recruiting in the area he coached HS only for it to slowly fade with time. The reason I'd have to assume is kids from the area slowly not knowing who you are either naturally or due to other guys you connected with moving on as well. Pretty soon you don't really have the connections to get your foot in the door anymore and the most you can offer in a conversation is that you're also from the area. Which as you can imagine doesn't mean much on it's own.

Recruiting is connections, a player's coach or mentor knowing the recruiter personally and vouching for them. When a HS guy jumps to college, the kids he knew directly are graduated and the other adults he knew moved on in one way or another it just makes them another recruiter.

I'm not sure what connections he has left or exactly how well he recruited at Ole Miss. Both could be great! I sincerely don't know and I'm curious.

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gruden

February 6th, 2023 at 6:19 PM ^

Which makes this an added bonus this time around.  In addition to being able to recruit the NJ area, he also has connections in the south which is crucial.  I'm happy to have him back, although I'm not sure we'll have him long.

Does this mean Coach Harbaugh is easier to work for than some suppose?  It's not like CP didn't have other options.

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1VaBlue1

February 6th, 2023 at 12:59 PM ^

Yeah, he would have been recruiting against top-end SEC stalwarts like Alabama, Georgia, and LSU for local kids, let alone for nationally wanted playmakers.  The guy from Ole Miss doesn't have the cachet that guys from those programs will have.  Not even with the success Kiffen has had there.

Now insert the guy from Michigan, a peer program to Bama, UGA, LSU, et all, and it will be a big difference in interest.

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M-GO-Beek

February 6th, 2023 at 1:09 PM ^

Also- it isn't clear that his recruiting assignments were the same at Ole Miss as they were here. It is possible as a DC he had to take a more broad approach geographically and pulled from recruiting the NJ area (which is considerably farther from Ole Miss than it is from UM). At UM, he can focus on NJ where clearly his strengths are. 

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1VaBlue1

February 6th, 2023 at 1:03 PM ^

Did it take a step back, though?  Colson has continued improving, if only at a slower pace than we'd like.  But Barrett improved drastically through the season.  I think they held serve overall - which is somewhat disappointing, I guess?  But I wasn't disappointed in their performance!  So what does it all mean?

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Blinkin

February 6th, 2023 at 2:05 PM ^

LB play may have taken a step back from 2021, but I thought that was expected no matter what. Josh Ross leaving, plus NHG being hurt all year, meant the 22 unit was down its best 2 players from 21.  That was a huge blow to the LB corps.  

I thought LB play was fine and showed decent progress considering that context.  They got more than we were hoping out of Barrett and Colson, IMO. 

 

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JonnyHintz

February 6th, 2023 at 3:07 PM ^

Partridge is without a doubt an upgrade in the recruiting department. There’s absolutely no debate there. 
 

As for on-field, I’ve heard next to nothing good or bad about Helow. Probably the most forgettable coach on the staff. While Partridge was considered a good assistant in his time here. So maybe Partridge is better, maybe it’s a wash and the recruiting benefit is the tie-breaker. But if Helow was a better on-field coach, I think that’s something we would be hearing about. 
 

If it’s Partridge in for Helow, I see no reason to not be happy with the outcome based on what we do know. 

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TeslaRedVictorBlue

February 6th, 2023 at 12:47 PM ^

i think thats good - though i think he will have higher aspirations within a year or two. but if he can bring in a few ballers that'd be cool. i dont recall his chops as a coach - but i do as a recruiter!

wish he and the ole miss corner figured this out about 6 weeks ago

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