Basketball: use of in-game sensors

Submitted by Blue Vet on May 29th, 2021 at 7:45 AM

From the New York Times, an article on use of in-game sensors on players' jerseys and inside the balls to track movement during New Mexico's state high school championships.

"The New Mexico championships produced the kind of statistics that die-hard N.B.A., W.N.B.A. or N.C.A.A. fans would find familiar: Color-coded dots showing where shots were taken. How many times a particular player touched the ball. What each player’s plus-minus rating was. Which player was most effective (or not) at contesting shots or defending the rim."

I'm curious what MGoStatheads think.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/28/sports/high-school-basketball-shot-tracking-technology.html

Darker Blue

May 29th, 2021 at 7:56 AM ^

They should put a chip in my butt to determine the size of my poops

In all seriousness though they need to put a chip in the ball to make it easier to determine first downs, out of bounds, and that sort of thing.  

I don't know though because they could also put a chip in my butt 

Blue Vet

May 29th, 2021 at 8:58 AM ^

Though no tech wizard, I'd suggest that no chip is needed to determine the size of your poop. (As any kid knows, weighing yourself before and after you poop = poop size.)

However, a chip in your butt might generate statistics of preparation time, trajectory, and speed.

More sophisticated technology might also ascertain degree of anal retentiveness.

Blue@LSU

May 29th, 2021 at 9:15 AM ^

As any kid knows, weighing yourself before and after you poop = poop size

Not so fast my friend. You forgot the urine. I don't know anyone that poops without also taking a piss. So poop size = (pre-poop weight - post-poop weight) - weight of urine excreted. 

Depending on the amount of effort, there may have been some weight loss from sweating, caloric burn, etc. as well.

Edit: and don't forget the most important step. You need to convert from Courics to Pounds (1 Couric = 2.5 pounds)

1WhoStayed

May 29th, 2021 at 10:16 AM ^

SMH. Again with the “chip in the football”?

The location of the ball is only one component of “spotting” the football. A chip won’t be able to determine when a player is down. Or whether a knee was down first. Or an elbow. 

As for the OOB, same thing. You’re gonna need chips on all parts of the player. Not to mention a field with a grid that is 100% accurate to the chalk marking the sidelines and end zones.

As for your poop, by size do you mean width only or length too? 

Don

May 29th, 2021 at 10:37 AM ^

If football is still being played 40 years from now—I don't think it's necessarily a given—I believe the footballs will be chipped, players' uniforms will be equipped with chips, and all fields will be extensively gridded with sensors to detect where the positions of the balls and the players are at any given moment. The data collected will be handled by AI systems, and onfield referees will be mainly concerned with infractions and penalties.

OfficerRabbit

May 30th, 2021 at 12:35 PM ^

This is a really depressing thought... I don't like the thought of completely sterile, non-subjective calls in a sporting contest. Sure.. "The Spot" in 2016 was controversial to most UM fans, but OSU received the same treatment in 2019 playing Clemson... a few "controversial calls" in fact. What else would fans have to do if arguing about calls and playing the "what if" card was taken away from us!?! I get enough data analytics (Excel, PowerBI, etc.) at work... I prefer some good old judgement calls in football, even when my team is on the short end of stick.

WestQuad

May 29th, 2021 at 8:36 AM ^

Cool Story Bro:  I did a deal with the CEO of ShotTracker, Davyeon Ross, when he  was the CEO/Founder of an online video clip company.  I talked to the guy for six months and thought he was a normal sized person and when I met him in person he was a 6'8" former basketball player.   Super smart and nice guy.

Apply statistics/machine learning/big data to problems is all the rage right now (and the past 10+ years because computers have the power to churn the data.  The problem is that other than black box things like A/B testing people most often don't know what to do with the data.  You also have the issue of mastering the basics.  People have a hard enough time showing up to work on time, being sober, getting along, etc.  being able to fine tune is difficult.     For sports, something like shot tracker though might be able to quickly identify problems so that you at least know what they are. 

It's also really cool from a sports data perspective.

Solecismic

May 30th, 2021 at 10:03 AM ^

Apple can turn the entire field into a touch-screen - only about 1.5 million Apple 11 phones placed together. When the ref has a question, instead of spending all that time behind the wizard's curtain, he just dials the number of the relevant player and watches which phones pick up.