Auburn/Georgia State instant replay.
I'm guessing some of you saw this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTfcbM_mhSM
This is one of the most blatant, obvious, egregious, home cooked SEC referee calls I can ever recall.
We were all displeased by the 4th spot vs OSU in 2016, but that was eons more ambiguous than how blatantly obvious this was.
Will there be ANY repercussions to the referees for this? I mean, why even bother having instant replay any more when something this blatant can still happen? I can't imagine how tough this must be on a small program like Georgia State.
September 27th, 2021 at 1:52 PM ^
Bad call? Yes. Worse than OSU 16'? Hell no. We won that game and got robbed. When my friends and I saw where he got stopped and where the ball was placed, we all went crazy. Then, when we saw the line/back judge come up and move the skin up a whole yard, the entire room went dead silent.
September 27th, 2021 at 1:58 PM ^
Meh. It'll be unpopular here but you cant clearly see JT was short. In this replay you can clearly see the ball hits the ground and is not caught
September 27th, 2021 at 2:10 PM ^
Agree with you. It was certainly a controversial call, but it was pretty hard to tell whether JT was actually short or not, and overturning the call on the field was damn near impossible, so unfortunately they had to roll with the original spot.
There is a huge difference between "The Spot" and this play, though, in that this Auburn play was 1st and 10. The Tigers still would have had three more cracks at getting ten yards. "The Spot" would have ended the game had it gone the other way. That call completely changed the possible outcomes. The Auburn call did not.
Maybe this Auburn call was a bad one, but it wasn't nearly as important as "The Spot" was.
September 27th, 2021 at 3:33 PM ^
This is the point of "the spot" that many people don't understand. It was OT and the first down is obviously the tip of the 15 yd line. The guy who did the spot didn't even care where Barrett was tackled. He ran right to the 15 and placed the ball on the line knowing that would be a first down. Egregious as it gets.
September 27th, 2021 at 3:58 PM ^
Exactly. Now throw in the multiple missed pass interference calls, one of which would have given Michigan a first down in regulation where they would have run out the clock; the pat on Weber's butt by the ref; the entire reffing crew being from Ohio, including the guy in the state HOF; and it's no wonder Michigan fans are bitter. It's as bad as the Charles White fumble on the 1 yard line in the Rose Bowl that was called a TD. (I love the picture that was in the Crisler concourse trophy cases when I was in Ann Arbor. It was after Simpkins pummeled him, looking down the goal line at the ball coming out before White crossed the line.)
September 27th, 2021 at 4:25 PM ^
This right here.
To add my two cents, there were ZERO live action penalties called on OSU in that game. That is egregious. Also, Harbaugh got called for "throwing papers on the field", which makes all of the missed calls on OSU even more egregious. It never would have come down to the spot if the game had been fairly officiated. I have seen horrible individual calls, but this was the worst case of officiating top to bottom that I have ever seen.
September 27th, 2021 at 7:08 PM ^
The lopsided game changing calls in OSUs favor highlight the spot and make it that much worse. The refs were simply corrupt.
That game would have been a Michigan 2-3 score win for Michigan with an unbiased crew.
September 27th, 2021 at 9:14 PM ^
The issue wasn't really that play alone, but that over the course of the game there were a series of 50-50 calls that all seemed to go OSU's way. Notably, they got a key pass interference called in their favor at the end of regulation to prolong a drive, while we got no call on a virtually identical play in overtime, which forced us to settle for a field goal to go up 27-24.
September 28th, 2021 at 6:56 AM ^
2016 the game between OSU and Michigan is in the books but the results are wrong. The refs won that game. At least show that in the record books.
Going back to the original post, the pass was incomplete. I don't see why there is even an argument. I wonder if the Refs get NIL deals now? Maybe there is a benevolence fund for the refs that is nice and fat. It's really hard to say because some of the calls the refs make are just blatantly wrong and you have to wonder if the refs make enough money.
September 27th, 2021 at 1:52 PM ^
That’s brutal. I mean, it was a first down play with over a minute left at the 30-something I think, so Auburn may well have gone on to score anyway, but that ball clearly loose past the hands, not in them, and crushed to earth under him. Doesn’t get more incomplete than that
September 27th, 2021 at 1:53 PM ^
Refs cheat to achieve desired outcomes.
If any group of people should be aware of this, it’s Michigan and Lions fans.
September 27th, 2021 at 2:30 PM ^
Its so obvious. The NFL is the worst but college sports have slowly crept up to just as bad. To much money involved in these games and Vegas has ruined American sports imo.
September 27th, 2021 at 1:54 PM ^
Funnier though, when that Clemson player ran up and fondled Weber's balls. I couldn't believe he didn't get called on that. I died laughing though.
September 27th, 2021 at 2:11 PM ^
Wasn’t it his butthole that was fondled?
September 27th, 2021 at 1:56 PM ^
I know we complain about Big Ten refs (especially in Michigan games), but the SEC refs have been god awful 4 games into this season. Between PSU/Auburn, Memphis/Miss St and now Auburn/GA St!
September 27th, 2021 at 2:02 PM ^
Maybe Auburn would've scored anyway but who knows- they'd only put up 19 on a 1-2 Georgia State to that point. I don't know how you don't look at that and say the SEC phoned in the 'correct' call that needed to be made. The fact that the refs will face no real punishment for this has me buying into SEC and/or ESPN conspiracy theories
September 27th, 2021 at 2:10 PM ^
Where to start.
1) Not a huge surprise given the terrible calls made by the SEC crew during Penn State/Auburn the previous week.
2. The "JT was short" spot was in no way an obvious call. It would have been a correct call either way. We're unhappy because it went against us.
c: Eon is a unit of time, not a measure of amount or amplitude, making your statement, "ambiguous."
September 27th, 2021 at 2:30 PM ^
Even though it was Auburn, Paul Finebaum was in the replay booth and ruled it a catch.
ESS- EEE- CEE!
September 27th, 2021 at 6:02 PM ^
You've never heard someone say "the amount of time it takes to..."? An eon is thus also a very large amount. In this case, an amount of time. Since it equates to a large amount, and since the message conveyed here is that the Auburn drop was less ambiguous by very large amounts, while not the best option, it still gets the message across no?
September 28th, 2021 at 6:14 AM ^
1) Nah, he was short, and most importantly, the only way you could maybe argue he wasn't short was upon slow-mo review that was inconclusive. Watching it live, from the perspective of people on the field, in the stands, and watching on TV--he was short. The original call should have been that he was short, and then replay would have upheld. It wasn't the replay officials who were corrupt, it was the refs on the field who made.a blatantly biased call.
September 27th, 2021 at 2:32 PM ^
That looked like half of Sparties receptions at the Big House last year except here they actually showed a couple replays lol
September 27th, 2021 at 2:37 PM ^
Repercussions? Absolutely!
Refs will be disciplined and likely fired. The SEC will issue an apology to Georgia St. along with an invite to join the conference. The NCAA will re-evaluate best practices for ref personnel assignments and proper handling of controversial calls, particularly after instant replay. Pollsters will consider this an Auburn loss and will view this game a broader litmus test indicating the overall weakness of the SEC resulting in an overall worsening of SEC team rankings across the board.
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Or not.
September 27th, 2021 at 2:54 PM ^
I was watching when it happened and remember the announcer commenting that even the Auburn fans were surprised by the call.
September 27th, 2021 at 3:10 PM ^
Yeah, when the fans in the stands groan on replay and then respond with "holy shit, that worked!" when he said the play stood is usually a good sign the refs messed up.
September 27th, 2021 at 3:16 PM ^
College football officiating is as bad as it gets and has been this way for decades, yet the NCAA won't do a darn thing about it because it makes no difference to them financially. Actually, it probably cost them more money which is why nothing will ever change.
September 27th, 2021 at 4:31 PM ^
This is one of the most blatant, obvious, egregious, home cooked SEC referee calls I can ever recall.
The GSU coach said as much in the postgame. Which I thought was great -- I'll contribute to the gofundme to cover the fine.
September 27th, 2021 at 4:51 PM ^
Yet we had the terrible call in our favor during the 2013 Outback Bowl game against South Carolina. Clearly not a first down, yet they award us a first down, even with a measurement that was short.
Weird stuff out there.
September 27th, 2021 at 5:17 PM ^
That call was so bad it got the Auburn WR coach fired.
September 27th, 2021 at 6:48 PM ^
Repercussions to the refs? JMO but the NCAA and the conferences would never agree to it. But, all referees need to be employed by the NCAA not the conferences though they would have groups for each conference.
Second, repercussions needs to start with conferences paying out money and teams forfeiting games! That is the only way to fix this mess. I have zero doubt this will ever happen. But the fact remains, conferences will protect teams and the sec at least will go all out to protect their team. Big ten a bit more iffy unless it’s osu, then it’s all out protect.
Every major loss in the close games vs osu, there was a huge call that went osu’s way and most of those calls were objectionable. 02, 03, 04, 05, 06 for sure, 2011, 2013, 2016 no doubt, 2018 you can’t block on the crossing route it’s a flag every time and not one thrown…
September 27th, 2021 at 7:06 PM ^
The sec refs have been making some terrible calls…the Auburn Penn St game was egregious.
September 27th, 2021 at 9:35 PM ^
This has always been typical of Southern referees. There are just lots of cameras now.
September 27th, 2021 at 11:35 PM ^
Um, this is not as bad as what you are saying. He may have had his left hand under the ball. You can't see for sure if he did or not. So the ref went with the call on the field. And, he said "stands" and not "confirmed" which means he wasn't sure. Now if he had said "confirmed" I would have an issue with it.
September 28th, 2021 at 10:51 AM ^
Bad calls happen...a lot....
Lions should have won this past week, but since Baltimore got to make the field goal after the play clock expired, they didn't. That's life.