APR About to bite UConn

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February 10th, 2012 at 4:40 PM
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APR About to bite UConn

I haven't seen much posted here about APR lately.  It appears this is about to hit UConn hard. Their request to the NCAA for a waiver allowing them to play in the 2012-2013 post-season has been denied.  LINK:  http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7562956/ncaa-denies-connecticut-huskies-request-apr-waiver-2013-postseason

Assuming their appeal is not granted, that would be huge. I don't understand all the APR implications, but if teams start to become ineligible for either the Bowl season or for the NCAA tourney, or both, that would be a significant penalty. If conferences voted not to give a financial share to ineligible teams, that would sting even more.

I don't know all the issues involved, but banning teams from the post-season for a failure to perform academically is a tremendous way to make athletes attending school less of a sham.

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February 10th, 2012 at 4:48 PM | I had to agree with Forde's (Score:2)
MaizeAndBlueWahoo
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I had to agree with Forde's take on the whole thing (although it was a little over-nasty for my tastes, and it's funny how he thinks Ohio didn't get off easy.)  UConn is essentially trying to weasel out of the penalty.  Rules are rules.  The APR can be kind of arbitrary and needs a few tweaks, but you still have to be really, really negligent to get to the point where you're doing as badly as UConn.  Let 'em take their medicine.  I'll be disappointed as hell in the NCAA (again) if they say OK to this.

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February 10th, 2012 at 4:54 PM | Last time the NCAA bit UConn (Score:5 Normal)
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Last time the NCAA bit UConn they punished them all the way to a national title.

(Edited to remove passive voice because this is a Michigan blog, fergodsakes)

February 10th, 2012 at 6:01 PM | I like (Score:5 Normal)
Balrog_of_Morgoth
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I like that your post was edited so that the passive voice was removed.

February 11th, 2012 at 8:57 AM | Agreed on "punishment" (Score:1)
Tater
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Sadly, it looks like the NCAA is about to "punish" USC football all the way to a MNC, too.  I'm just hoping it doesn't work out like that for Ohio.  

 

 

 

February 10th, 2012 at 4:59 PM | Does your APR still punish (Score:2)
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Does your APR still punish you if you have players leave early (as in the NBA or NFL draft)?

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February 10th, 2012 at 5:05 PM | If I understand the rule, (Score:3 Normal)
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If I understand the rule, you're okay as long as the student finishes the current semester.  

So, a basketball player, in this case, has to finish the winter semester.  If they know before March Madness that they're going pro and decide to not go to class after March 1st, they're going to hurt your APR.  

If they continue going to class because they're not sure, then after the winter semester (mid April?) decide to go pro, then you're good (as long as they complete the semester).  

That's how it works.  I think.

February 10th, 2012 at 5:10 PM | That kinda sucks for the (Score:2)
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That kinda sucks for the schools. Do they really expect a kid that is about to make millions to finish a semester that is pretty much irrelevant for them (especially if they don't really care about finishing their degree in the future)? I think exceptions in those cases should be made. Not saying UCONN has any of these, just a general comment.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
February 10th, 2012 at 5:19 PM | I think the point is (Score:2 Normal)
oHOWiHATEohioSTATE
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to punish teams going after tons of one and done kids

If an OSU fan divorces his wife are they still brother and sister?

February 10th, 2012 at 5:20 PM | It's definitely a risk that (Score:2)
APBlue
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It's definitely a risk that comes with One & Done players.  If that player is the selfish type, beware.  If he cares about the university, program, his teammates, then he's probably going to be responsible enough to get his butt to class.  

My thought is that if he's talented enough that he may not stick it out another year, it was probably at least in the back of he mind when selected selected his classes.  If that's the case, he probably didn't load up on the toughest course schedule.  Again, get your butt to class and be responsible to your coach and teammates.  

It just doesn't matter to some kids, though; another reason coaches should be careful with whom they bring into their programs. 

February 10th, 2012 at 5:44 PM | If that's the case (one and (Score:5 Normal)
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If that's the case (one and done issue) then how on earth is Kentucky (or any Caliperi coached school for that matter) elegible for ANYTHING?

 

 

February 10th, 2012 at 6:36 PM | OR Olieo $t and Thad Matta? (Score:0 Trolling)
February 10th, 2012 at 8:26 PM | No idea...often wondered that (Score:2 Normal)
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No idea...often wondered that myself...but I'm sure he knows all the loopholes

February 11th, 2012 at 9:11 AM | The Easy Button Loophole (Score:1)
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All the current system really does is encourage corrupt athletic departments to develop relationships with teachers who will ensure that their players get good grades, whether or not they actually earn them.  

For example, a player could "write" a paper or two for extra credit to shore up a grade, or the teacher could just give the student an A with no actual justification needed.  It would be a major violation of the student's right to confidentiality if athletes were forced to produce proof of having earned their grades, so this would be really difficult to prove.

This is just another reason why I think the NCAA should throw out 95 percent of the rulebook. All they are doing right now is forcing schools that play by the rules to compete on an uneven playing field against the Ohios, USCs, and Bammers of the world.  

 

 

 

 

February 10th, 2012 at 7:38 PM | "(especially if they don't (Score:-1 Normal)
February 10th, 2012 at 5:26 PM | All this will do is encourage (Score:3 Normal)
BlueinLansing
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schools to a make sure their kids take easier classes to graduate.

February 10th, 2012 at 5:33 PM | Golf 100, Racquetball 100, (Score:2 Normal)
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Golf 100, Racquetball 100, Advanced Basketball 103, and Coach Calipari's Leadership class.

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February 11th, 2012 at 12:23 AM | Really? (Score:3 Normal)
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Don't you think that's exactly what a lot of schools already do?

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February 10th, 2012 at 5:29 PM | Eh, it's not like UConn was (Score:3 Normal)
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Eh, it's not like UConn was going to get past Michigan next year anyway.

February 10th, 2012 at 7:43 PM | This is about the basketball (Score:1 Overrated)
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This is about the basketball team

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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February 10th, 2012 at 7:55 PM | How does that change his (Score:3 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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How does that change his point?

February 10th, 2012 at 11:07 PM | Point taken. I for one, can't (Score:1)
Lionsfan
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Point taken. I for one, can't wait to travel and play an OoC game in a stadium that barely seats 40,000

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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February 10th, 2012 at 7:01 PM | Denied the appeal.  Pretty (Score:2 Normal)
jka347
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Denied the appeal.  Pretty crazy that they'll be ineligible for the 2013 tourney...

February 10th, 2012 at 7:17 PM | Rule Just Got Approved (Score:2 Normal)
VAGoBlue
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Glad they are not granting exceptions. If this prompts a rule change then OK with that too. Good question about Calipari and Kentucky. Good for Huggins/Cincy this is after his tenure there. Read a few years back that he never graduated a player while coaching there.

February 10th, 2012 at 7:21 PM | so... (Score:-1 Redundant)
February 10th, 2012 at 7:55 PM | Nope.  There are no bowls in (Score:4 Normal)
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Nope.  There are no bowls in college basketball.

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