Andrew Raym to Oklahoma

Submitted by CincyBlue on July 10th, 2019 at 10:05 PM

Per @tomvh: Big get for Oklahoma with ESPN 300 offensive lineman Andrew Raym, ranked No. 55 overall. Sooners have seven ESPN 300 commits in the class, two are offensive linemen.

Andrew was a recent visitor to Ann Arbor prior to the dead period.

Gentleman Squirrels

July 10th, 2019 at 10:09 PM ^

Shame, it would have been nice to get the top prospect out of Oklahoma two years in a row. 

On the Michigan insider, there is a note about a 5 star prospect who is committed to Stanford. I don’t have an insider account, but I assume it’s about Myles Hinton. Hopefully Michigan is still recruiting him and we can flip one from Stanford as payback for all the recruits they’ve flipped from us.

SMart WolveFan

July 11th, 2019 at 10:45 AM ^

Uhh.. they have two top100 commits and may get back in on a third, a 5* even, plus we probably have four candidates to end in top100.

That's not counting what they could do before signing day.

Basically, they've lost a bunch of top100 battles that if they had won it would've been more top100 than they've ever had.

As of right now 4 or 5 top100 seems easy to reach.

JonnyHintz

July 13th, 2019 at 9:32 AM ^

Well we have two now. Rankings aren’t finalized for another 8 months and this time last year Charbonnet wasn’t top 100 (he was #186) before finishing in the top 50. 

We finished last class with 3 top 100 players. We already have two. We still have spots to fill and rankings will continue to change. 

LSAClassOf2000

July 11th, 2019 at 9:14 AM ^

Pretty sure we have one of those as well. Still getting a few OL prospects that would otherwise choose Oklahoma would be a nice bonus. Of course, I think this is a 2020 kid, if I am not mistaken, and when there is still plenty of time left in a given recruiting cycle, hope does seem to spring eternal, especially around here. 

JonnyHintz

July 13th, 2019 at 9:38 AM ^

We can get some of those OL. The problem is, the guy who lives in the state of Oklahoma is going to be tough to get when you’re going up against Oklahoma. 

A lot of people have some unrealistic expectations of Michigan recruiting. We haven’t won a conference title in 15 years. Oklahoma is routinely winning the Big 12 and going to the CFP. Michigan has a big brand and some pull where we will always compete for top recruits, but until the results follow it’s going to be an uphill battle to out-recruit teams like Oklahoma, OSU, Bama, Georgia and Clemson. Especially if they’re recruiting a guy from their own backyard. 

Imagine how we would have reacted here if DPJ committed to Florida over Michigan. That’s how Oklahoma fans would feel if this kid chose us. It wouldn’t make much sense to lose an in-state kid like that. 

Ezekiels Creatures

July 11th, 2019 at 3:38 AM ^

He was all Oklahoma from the word go.

There's no one here that thought he maybe, just maybe, might choose Michigan, right?

NatedoggGoBlue

July 11th, 2019 at 8:02 AM ^

He decommitted from Oklahoma and outside of a few rare exceptions, decommits generally don’t recommit to their original school. He took an unofficial and an official to UM right before he was supposed to decide. We were firmly in his top three.

I’m not saying I expected him to go blue, but based on the above it wasn’t ridiculous to have some hope.

Ezekiels Creatures

July 11th, 2019 at 4:21 AM ^

Here's some real news for Michigan: not one 2020 OL with a score of 90 or higher is committed to Michigan. I'm hoping Ed Warinner will keep turning that O Lineman recruiting Queen Mary and Michigan will start landing top 10 O Linemen.

 

No Michigan M on the list yet, no matter how far down you scroll:

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/RecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=OG

 

Here's what's nuts: Clemson has 2 of the top 10, and 3 out of the top 20.

JonnyHintz

July 13th, 2019 at 9:44 AM ^

Yeah that’s a guards only list. Michigan rarely recruits guards in the first place. Usually Michigan recruits tackles and then moves guys around. Bredeson for example was #39 overall recruit, 5th ranked tackle. And he’s a guard. Mason Cole is another example of a tackle recruit who Michigan found was better suited for the interior. 

Obviously there are exceptions (Ruiz and Onwenu for example) But Michigan doesn’t tend to recruit interior players specifically. 

outsidethebox

July 11th, 2019 at 7:22 AM ^

Getting Mr. Raym would have been quite the catch-love this kids film. Flipping little Myles would be a much bigger deal-this kid is an OL difference-maker.

Michigan needs to show out and have a 12 win season to break into the cache of five stars. 

JonnyHintz

July 13th, 2019 at 9:47 AM ^

A lot of people ignore this. Michigan hasn’t won (or even played for) a conference title since 2004. But people expect Michigan to recruit (and in many cases out-recruit) with teams who are CFP regulars. There’s just not much logic in that expectation.

Obviously we still have the big name recognition to be able to pull a few of these guys, but until we win on the field it’s not realistic to expect to go head to head with these teams and win recruiting battles.