247 updates a couple of in-state targets to 4*
Cameron Martinez is an athlete from Muskegon, plays QB in high school. Offers from Sparty, PSU, OSU and others. Now a 4*, #23 athlete. 2 crystal ball picks for Michigan (100%), including the reliable Allen Trieu.
Maliq Carr is a WR from Oak Park, but 247 moved him to TE. Offers from Sparty, PSU, ND, OSU, LSU, TA&M, and a host of others. He ran a 4.67 40 recently, which is a bit faster than I believe most thought he could run. Now a 4*, #8 TE. 8 crystal ball picks for Michigan (100%), including the aforementioned Trieu.
In other crystal ball news, there's been several picks for Braiden McGregor to Michigan recently, including Sam Webb. Steve Wiltfong had put in a pick for Clemson, but I believe he's moved that back to Michigan. 247 has him as the #27 player in the county, the #3 SDE, and #1 in Michigan. Picks are now 78% Michigan, 22% ND, though I believe most of those ND picks were put in a while ago.
Must be a really good county for football......:)
The state of Michigan must be loaded this year if McGregor is only 27th. Ha.
Washtenaw pipeline!
GO BLUE!
This staff just doesnt focus on in state talent!
That’s funny. Also fire Beilein!
Excited about Carr. He recently participated in an opening camp and scored a SPARQ score of 121.20 (really good). He would probably be a Flex TE at Michigan but at 6'4, 230 he ran a 40 dash of 4.67 which is pretty good to play WR too.
In other crystal ball news, a lot of crystal balls have been moving Rashawn Williams away from Michigan to cloudy. Seems like Michigan is cooling on the prospect. Hopefully we can still recruit some outside WRs to go along with the large numbers of slot type WRs we recruited in the last cycle.
I think they’re focusing on Carr and others. Thought I read somewhere that Rashawn is probably going out of the state.
Sam said recently on the radio that M cooled on him for some reason. It could have been because they like other prospects better, but that's all he said.
FWIW It seems MSU has been cooling on him as well. Maybe out of state is a good thing for the young man.
Williams is a good prospect, but there was a lot of buzz on him early being a top-100-type of guy. I never really agreed with that. Good player, but not on that level, IMO.
Think the other services will soon bump up Braiden and he could be near composite 5 star by the summer. He’s getting attention from all the biggest programs.
He's from my alma mater which generally has a pretty lousy football program. I believe he would be the first PHN recruit to play at UM since Brad Bates. Brad's dad, Jim (RIP), was our AD and a great guy who also played at UM.
It’s interesting to watch how this is playing out with Carr, Martinez, and Rashawn Williams at WR. Williams has always been ranked much higher and looked really good on film.
It seems like the staff sees it differently for whatever reason. Running a camp timed 4.67 is a really good time for a guy Carr’s size. Martinez is just a special athlete.
I am wondering the scoop on Williams. Either he is not interested, not a fit, or maybe his times are not coming in quite fast enough to be elite. Purdue and Indiana seem to be where he is getting slottted at this stage.
Interest in Williams seems to be dropping, even if his rating hasn't. I don't believe Indiana would be so high on his list if he was still being pursuing by the better schools that offered. A lot of big names in there.
I think we're going to have a battle to land Martinez. Fortunately, he seems like a good fit for Gattis and his offense.
A couple of months ago Carr sounded like the least likely in-state receiver for Michigan to land, I'm happy to see that reversed. His recent top 5 didn't include either of his earlier perceived leaders. He could be a great complement to our incoming class of receivers. I wouldn't underestimate the value of getting a foot in the door of Oak Park HS either. They've had a lot of talent head elsewhere.
Carr right now in High School is almost identical to Devin Funchess combine scores in height, weight , and speed. If he has the hands that’s a serious threat to college DBs. It will be interesting to see if grows into a TE.
Something is up with Williams if MSU is backing away.
It's really just a matter of how soon Carr accepts that he's a tight end. I mean, he could be an Engram-style tight end who just doesn't put his hand down much. But he insists on being a wide receiver, and that's somewhat unlikely in the long term. I mean, I guess Devin Funchess has done it to an extent, but he's been an odd case, too. Most high schoolers would be ecstatic to have his career, but Funchess could be a tight end with elite athleticism, and instead he's just a mediocre wide receiver.
Devin Funchess doesn’t really like contact. Maybe some coaches let the lack of desire to block slide at WR but not really at TE.
Carr’s physical development as he gets older the next few years will be interesting. I see your point about being an ok WR or a game changing TE. You have to really like all aspects of the game.
Crystal ball picks for Rashawn Williams are drifting away from UM tho
Michigan (and Michigan State) are cooling on him. Whether it’s grades, character questions, or football reasons I couldn’t say, but his options are looking like Indiana and Purdue at this point.
McGregor!!!!
I distinctly remember some goober around here freaking out about McGregor some time ago because he had "100% ballz" to ND, which turned out to be one crystal ball from a writer for ND nation or something who had about a 55% accuracy.
This is why you won't follow recruiting too deeply nearly a year out.
Goober, great word
Was the username any of the following?
- Maizen
- Bluey
- Hei2man
- Old98
.....which are all the same person.
(That was my point ?)
I never trust ND or OSU crystal balls when there's only one prediction for a player. For ND, Tom Loy is notorious for throwing a ball for ND for any player who even remotely shows interest. For OSU, Andrew Ellis (11 warriors) and Bill Kurelic (bucknuts) do the same thing.
I don't know, it sounds like an example of someone following recruiting too superficially.
Freaking out because of a tiny bit of information is just par for the course for some people.
Tom Loy just posted a story on 247 about how McGregor almost committed to ND on his visit there this past weekend.
Said he had similar feelings while at UM and Alabama but his recruitment is far from over.
This staff seems to do a good job of evaluating guys, getting in on them early, then seeing their rankings rise. It sounds frustrating at first as it's a lot of 3-star dudes, but they rise over time. Much better than Hoke's high star guys that wind up falling & sucking.
As we saw with guys like Taco Charlton, that was simply because Hoke was a shitty coach. The guys he recruited were actually very talented, but they had poor coaching and toxic culture.
Harbaugh's biggest accomplishment over these last few years has been to change the culture within the program, which I assume is the reason guys like Aubrey Solomon got pushed out last year.
Hoke, or his DC, could evaluate defensive talent. It’s offensive evaluation where he seemed below par.
Toxic culture?
I think your imagination has OD'd on too many fig mints.
Easy to crap on Hoke, but Harbaugh’s defense would’ve been nothing without Hoke’s recruits.
Around the whole Shane Morris concussion time, it was obvious the culture was broken. Michigan is the type of program that can always field a mediocre above-average team, but the difference between that and elite has to do with culture(which is an element of coaching).
For me, the moment was the Frank Clark motel incident. Right before your last home game, and you’re out making such ridiculous decisions? That tells me that Hoke could not get his team focused on success.
The glaring warning sign was Fitz’s DUI right before the Alabama game.
Bedsides the one off bad year, Harbaugh’s recruiting has been excellent. It looks like this next class will end up great too.
Now that we have even more young and dynamic recruiters on staff I don’t think even maizen should worry.
Not "excellent" until it has resulted in a conference, or at least division, championship.
“Excellent” < “elite”
it’s tough to win anything when a perennial top 3 team plays in your division.
Harbaugh has brought in some nice kids but blowing OL recruiting a couple years ago is seriously going to impact UM football.
Yeah. Drevno was a shit recruiter. Pep was too. Now, thankfully, they’re both gone.
I saw the hype of Cameron Martinez, but honestly his film was pretty underwhelming to me. Seems like the kind of guy who has tons of high school stats, but I have trouble seeing him translate to the next level just because his athleticism doesn't seem fantastic.
I have to disagree with your assessment,Smoked Brie an.... Cameron could do no more than dominate every team he played against. Done. He took the leap from a tiny Div 8 school to a top three(HS) program and faced the best talent the state has to offer. Rushing for over 2000 yds and breaking the single season rushing record at Muskegon High takes more than good athleticism, maybe fantastic. He's a good one.
MI is loaded at WR this cycle
Besides R Williams there's Devell Washington and Ian Stewart who UM appears to have also cooled on.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Earnest Sanders get offered, people are high on him.
+ Abdur-Rahmaan Yaseen, who I think had no interest from UM, but MSU/NW and others recruit.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Earnest Sanders get offered, people are high on him.
With M Carr that's 6 P5 level WRs which is pretty high for MI HS FB.
Earnest Sanders is the best WR in the state, IMO.
I don't see Ian Stewart as a WR. He looks like an OLB to me.
You're high on Earnest Sanders, aren't you?
You're high on Earnest Sanders, aren't you?
Yeah we have a top WR coach had our OC now - given his track record I’m all for trusting his eye if we’ve cooled on Williams and are dialing up in our recruitment of other guys like Carr and others mentioned in the comments
Martinez is listed as an athlete but does anyone know what we are recruiting him as? Slot receiver?
Slot I believe but he could also play RB.
Thanks. Some on the board are mixed but I think he has strong potential to be an impact player.
Yes.