Gentleman Squirrels

April 2nd, 2020 at 7:55 PM ^

Allen Trieu has put in a crystal ball for PSU for both him and his brother.

Also, Jamari Buddin is announcing tomorrow. Top Viper target and currently Michigan has all the crystal balls

Chalky White

April 3rd, 2020 at 8:38 AM ^

I never put 2 and 2 together until just now. I attend a church in Ypsilanti. One of the deacons has grandkids on the football team at Lincoln and Belleville. Another member with the last name Buddin has a grandson on the Belleville team as well. 

I never really talked to him about his grandson. I didn't know he was a high level recruit. That assumes it's the same family. That's one heck of a coincidence. The grandfather is from Ohio and is an absurd OSU fan. 

AZBlue

April 2nd, 2020 at 8:05 PM ^

It would be a HUGE indictment of this staff's ability to recruit in-state if we lose this kid.

On the other hand - It would be a HUGE disappointment if we land this kid as 3-stars are not going to beat OSU.

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Am I doing the dejected Michigan fan thing right? 

(I really don't have an informed opinion/on him or his talent and wish him and his brother well wherever they go.)  Edit - except OSU ....F*** OSU.

maize-blue

April 2nd, 2020 at 10:21 PM ^

Steve Deace (*yeah, yeah I know a lot here don't like him but whatever) just had OSU writer Ari Wasserman on his podcast. I found my self agreeing with pretty much everything Wasserman was stating regarding Michigan. 

The jist of his statements is that Michigan isn't getting it done on the recruiting trail. He doubts Harbaugh can get it done and Michigan fans need to start holding him and the administration accountable for not producing the desired results on the field. Harbaugh's compensation doesn't line up with the current production (he's overpaid). Michigan fans seem defeated.

Bodogblog

April 3rd, 2020 at 8:42 AM ^

Stealing this from Steve Lorenz at 247, but from 2016-2020, Michigan has had the #2, #2, #3, #1, and #2 classes in the B1G.  And the 2018 class looks to have a lot of lower rated guys that the staff liked panning out (Ronnie Bell, Hassan Haskins, Vincent Gray, Schoonmaker, Michael Barrett).  Now the 2017 class was #5 nationally, but a lot of those guys bombed out for various reasons. 

It's unreasonable to believe Michigan is going to surpass Ohio State given they're at the peak of their program history right now.  Michigan can do better, but it's done pretty well.  

maize-blue

April 3rd, 2020 at 9:11 AM ^

So if you believe UM has good enough players why is UM winless vs. OSU in the time frame you've outlined?

Since 2016 OSU has signed 43 top 100 players. Michigan has 15. 

OSU had 20 more 4* and 5* players on their 2019 roster. I think there is expected to be 25 more on the 2020 rosters.

You can rationalize all you want but the above stats are how you get blown off the field.

Michigan did technically have the #1 class in the conference in 2019 but OSU's average ranking was higher. OSU had a small class. Had they had a few more signees it would have supassed Michigan's class.

I don't disagree that UM has done ok on the recruiting trail but eventually you have to draw a line and either admit defeat to OSU or find someone who can keep up.

Maybe there are built in institutional reasons that Michigan can't keep up (academics, character, blah, blah). That would mean a coach would have to get the most out of their rosters or beat teams that have equal or more talent. I'm not convinced Harbaugh has excelled at that here.

Magnus

April 3rd, 2020 at 9:25 AM ^

You can't keep up with OSU, just like the ACC can't keep up with Clemson and the SEC can't keep up with Alabama. Yes, there are going to be years where they drop a game here or there, but they are the cream of the crop in their respective circles. You keep striving to be better, but ultimately, something has to hurt OSU, Clemson, or Alabama to knock them off their perch. It isn't going to be out-recruiting them. It has to be the hiring of a bad coach, a defection of key assistants who are replaced by worse ones, a scandal, etc.

blicht4

April 3rd, 2020 at 9:58 AM ^

Well said Magnus. In the time of Lloyd's end, RichRod and Hoke, OSU was building a powerhouse with Tressel and Meyer. Michigan recruited like crap at the end of Lloyd and with RichRod, had a scandal get blown-up, and had Hoke recruit better but couldn't turn it into on-field success. Even with the Fickell year and the sanction year, OSU seemed to keep building momentum.

No excuses for Harbaugh, but the un-doing of his predecessors and the fact that Michigan's foundational principles will never be that of OSU and Alabama make it hard to compete against those schools right now. At some point they'll hopefully ruin themselves and in that time hopefully Harbaugh (or someone else if it comes to that) can close the gap year-to-year.

Bodogblog

April 3rd, 2020 at 8:48 AM ^

A lot here don't like him because he's just awful.  Classic example of a random dude who's ego has been hurt by Michigan losing to Ohio State, so he shits on the team as a way to make himself feel better and regain some lost self-esteem (lowest common denominator coping skills).  When the team wins a big game, he says stuff like "they won because they did this *very generic bullshit thing* I've been saying they should do for weeks!"  Ignore. 

It's a good thing that most people don't have any idea who he is.