2020 QB Possibility
With the loss of JD we need a QB in this class and so far the only name out there is a longshot with 5 crystal balls to OSU.
Apparently we had some interest in Carl Richardson and so far his only big offers are Boise and Washington State. Senior film for first 7 games looks pretty good and he threw for 2,272 yds with 26 TDs and only 2 INTs... plus 46 carries for 396 yards on the ground.
I have no idea about the level of competition. He has several Ivy League offers which is a good sign.
Highlights: https://www.hudl.com/video/3/5652836/5d620bc65b3ca80f2cda2c16
October 31st, 2019 at 11:08 AM ^
EvenYouBrutus wants us to go after Noah Kim.
Also, can't get on board with a QB named Carl. Carl may be a fine name, but not for a Michigan QB. His last name also doesn't start with M, which appears to be an issue going forward. Doesn't pass the name test.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:15 AM ^
Carl is a great name for a groundskeeper!
October 31st, 2019 at 11:15 AM ^
Grad Transfer
October 31st, 2019 at 11:25 AM ^
Hopefully just for depth. Ideally Dylan or Joe start next year.
October 31st, 2019 at 1:10 PM ^
And for a Scanner
October 31st, 2019 at 1:28 PM ^
Or PA announcer at football games and halftime shows.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:38 AM ^
I knew a stripper named Carl, she was beautiful.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:09 AM ^
I may be in the minority here but I’m fine with not replacing him with another qb. Milton, Mccaffrey, McNamara and McCarthy should have us covered and they can take two qbs in 2021 if they need an insurance policy
October 31st, 2019 at 11:13 AM ^
Nope. If we've learned one thing from the debacle that was the Hoke era, it's that you always take a QB in your recruiting class. Always. With the transfer portal, we have no idea how many of the above in the QB corps are going to be here next spring. Recruit a QB every season.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:25 AM ^
Sorry I just don’t think it’s definitely necessary. We are gonna scramble now and take whoever we can drum up, give them a scholarship for four years, and have them transfer to a MAC school three years from now? If Milton leaves pick up a grad transfer to get depth and get a second qb in 2021. There aren’t a ton of talented qbs uncommitted now that we are gonna have a shot at. If this was May I’d feel differently but it’s basically November. We will see but I think they’ll plug in a bound to be bench guy this late in the cycle.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:46 AM ^
We should all believe, strongly in data.
The data and recent history suggest taking a QB in every class, every single class.
You can ignore data and history but that just makes you stupid, at least that what my How to win at Blackjack book says.
October 31st, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
That may be, but if you think a guy named "Never Punt" is going to concede your are sadly mistaken.
October 31st, 2019 at 12:35 PM ^
I concede his point.
October 31st, 2019 at 12:42 PM ^
Yes I agree another qb can be a good thing, but I’m saying not sure of the merits of a late cycle pick up vs a grad transfer other/transfer if we need one
October 31st, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^
No players scholarship is guaranteed for four years. You recruit a QB and you're up front with him. He's got a tough road to playing time and will have to compete to earn his spot on the roster. If he doesn't measure up, we'll give his spot to somebody who does.
October 31st, 2019 at 12:58 PM ^
No, a scholarship is guaranteed for 4 years so long as the student-athlete remains in good standing.
October 31st, 2019 at 12:56 PM ^
Let's see who may be in play before writing off the attempt to get a 2020 QB. I won't be surprised if there will be interest from some committed prospects.
Grad transfers QBs are rarely interested in providing depth. That's not why they transfer.
October 31st, 2019 at 1:07 PM ^
Fair points - guess we’ll see who’s an option.
Johnson was 32nd ranked qb overall and 16th ranked pro style qb (albeit final evals not in and he could have seen bumps) and 384 nationally overall.
hope we can find someone similar or better if we are gonna replace him
October 31st, 2019 at 1:35 PM ^
A fourth QB isn't definitely necessary the same way that wearing a seatbelt isn't definitely necessary. Most of the time it will probably be fine, but when you need it, you really need it.
That's not even a good analogy, since a extra QB probably has some ancillary benefits for working on the scount team and helping the other QBs on the roster, beyond backup in case of need in game.
November 1st, 2019 at 11:22 AM ^
Hypothetically speaking say one guy gets hurt and one guy isn’t very good....it’s insane to not try to load up on the most important position by far in football.
October 31st, 2019 at 2:52 PM ^
FWIW, I agree with you under the given conditions. I'd rather skip the QB in one class than to pick up a "flyer" (2011, 2015) at QB who most likely won't see action on the field.
I'd suggest that it's better to target having a number of scholarship QB's on the roster (4?) than to have a hardline rule that you HAVE to take one every single year. I'd be after quality more than quantity.
That being said, you really can't miss on your QB pick the following year. One of the good things about JH is that he's been able to sell the Michigan QB position pretty well during his tenure and the cupboard is currently full.
October 31st, 2019 at 2:57 PM ^
Not every 3 Star outside the top25 QB recruits are relegated to bench warming duties. (Besides, I'd rather have a "bench warmer" in place and knows the system/plays able to step in should a starter go down. So has Indiana right now. Ramsey was also a low 3 Star and that has saved IU's season)
Quick check through a few rankings of current Top 20-25 QB's that will get hard looks from NFL has several that fit that criteria coming out of HS.
Looking at 2016/2017 alone: Jordan Love #70 (247 position), Justin Herbert #26, Nate Stanley #37, Desmond Ridder #116, Brock Purdy #36, Charlie Brewer #36
October 31st, 2019 at 11:31 AM ^
Ah yes... and because of the transfer climate due to the "portal" otherwise known as the "anal cavity penetration apparatus" we've created this self fulfilling prophecy whereby we onboard more QBs than will ever see the field even in the event there's a global killer. Thereby sucking up multiple scholarships, and further inspiring potential QBs to continue transferring.
So your solution, is to buy more QBs to further perpetuate attrition. This transfer portal thing is a fuckin' mess...
The fact of the matter is that the GOAT would have transferred out of Michigan if the portal was a "thing" back then. Fortunately he was inspired to change his attitude get off his ass, and start competing for the job.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:35 AM ^
The transfer portal is what makes this different than the Hoke era. We are well stocked with the 3 QB's already on the team plus McCarthy coming in. Even if any of them leave, we've already shown that we can use the transfer portal to bring in a QB. Don't waste a scholarship just to bring in a QB unless the coaches think the kid could realistically start at some point. If there is nobody like that available, use the portal down the road if we need one.
October 31st, 2019 at 12:56 PM ^
Remember, Hoke was before the grad-transfer market went crazy.
I am all for trying to find a good QB for this class, but as others have noted would you really spend a scholarship on the 2020 eq of Russell Bellomy just to fulfill the QB-per-year rule?
October 31st, 2019 at 11:16 AM ^
Problem is, the loser of the McCaffrey-Milton QB battle is a transfer candidate. Which would leave us with the winner and McNamara as the only two scholarship QBs on the roster. Going through a season with three scholarship QBs isn’t ideal. Going through a season with two, is insane.
You HAVE to get a QB in this class. Period. Full stop. There is no debating that.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:24 AM ^
Exactly. If McCaffrey wins the job, Milton could be looking at waiting until his RS-Sr year before starting. I'd be shocked if he didn't leave.
That leaves two scholarship QBs next year, one being a RS-Fr. We need a QB commit, and I would be happy if we found a grad transfer as well.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:25 AM ^
For arguments sake, let say McCaffrey wins the battle. Do you really think Milton will leave after seeing Dylan go down each of the past two seasons?
October 31st, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^
McCarthy is a 2021 recruit. If we don't recruit one, we'll have 3 scholarship QBs with the potential for the backup to decide to transfer. That's a recipe for disaster.
October 31st, 2019 at 1:34 PM ^
Absolutely not. I fully expect whoever loses the 2020 QB battle to transfer (likely Milton)
October 31st, 2019 at 11:14 AM ^
Find him, bring him. Boom, done...
October 31st, 2019 at 11:22 AM ^
Gawd damnit this deserves so many upvotes. I’d take Paul Blake any day. I’d also sign Andre Krimm, despite not eating red meat.
Lucy Draper can kick my balls any day, as well.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:36 AM ^
Well, we've had the equivalent of Popkey a couple times, so we might as well get Blake.
Now, rip off their heads and shit down their necks. Let us pray.
November 1st, 2019 at 11:02 AM ^
“I thought you were gunna do one of these” *arcing motion with hand*
October 31st, 2019 at 12:24 PM ^
I sat next to Scott Bakula in church on Easter Sunday ~20 years ago in LA. Cool story bro.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:20 AM ^
I'd be OK if we sign him, but I just wish he had a more interesting name than Carl Richardson.
October 31st, 2019 at 12:38 PM ^
Shavoderick Beaver.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:21 AM ^
They'll find a guy. Remember Kevin Doyle was a Michigan commit until he wasn't, and ended up at Arizona two seconds later. While it may be tough to find a top level replacement, I have faith in the staff to figure it out
October 31st, 2019 at 11:28 AM ^
And I kinda guess that the staff won't be checking in here for our advice ...
October 31st, 2019 at 11:23 AM ^
I'd keep an eye on Jalen Suggs, he's a high 3* Dual Threat QB out of Minnesota that's crystal balled heavily to Gonzaga. For basketball. A Michigan offer to a great athlete may be enough to sway that, and don't discount going heavy for Harrison Bailey again after Tennessee hasn't done as well as hoped.
October 31st, 2019 at 12:09 PM ^
He’s a 5 star basketball prospect so probably not
October 31st, 2019 at 5:03 PM ^
Oh yea, I don't really know as much about basketball recruiting, but once I saw that he was a five star and could probably have some serious one and done consideration, there's no shot. I was hoping he'd be like a mid 4 star lmao.
October 31st, 2019 at 12:47 PM ^
Or do you think there'd be possible return interest with Parker McQuarrie?
October 31st, 2019 at 5:03 PM ^
He'd certainly be an option. It looks like CJ Stroud is going to end up in Columbus, I know JD Johnson and current OSU commit Jack Miller are close, so if the Miller's don't like being the second banana, the relationship and trust is certainly there. This is a pretty solid year for QBs at the top, Bryce Young and DJ Uiagaleilei are legit studs, and there are a couple more really talented guys, but it's a weaker year in the middle. Lot of question marks, so I'm interested to see where Harbaugh turns. THey'll take someone for sure.
October 31st, 2019 at 1:37 PM ^
Jalen Suggs is not coming to Michigan lmao
October 31st, 2019 at 5:04 PM ^
Yea no chance. I didnt realize how highly regarded he was in basketball, I really only follow football recruiting. You'd have to be a moron to pass up a good chance at being a one and done.
October 31st, 2019 at 8:37 PM ^
My first thought was Harrison Bailey as well. The iron might be hot for the striking too, given UT's propensity to lose, and Pruitt's propensity to grab QBs by the facemask while they're losing (exaggeration, I know).
November 1st, 2019 at 9:09 AM ^
Even more so is the very high degree of likelihood that Pruitt won't survive as head coach until he gets there.
October 31st, 2019 at 11:42 AM ^
Take a QB in every class....even if he's a TE.