2018 espn recruits
I think espn 300 is the best recruiting site, but are sometimes late re-evaluating players. For those who may think we are not keeping up with osu in recruiting. ESPN 300 2016 UM: 13 OSU:13 PSU:7 ESPN 300 2017 UM:18 OSU:16 PSU:7 allthough osu being more top heavy in 2017. 1) BOLD prediction for 2018 recruiting class: CLASS SIZE:20 ESPN 300 RECRUITS: 20 2) BOLD prediction for record: Michigan will be undefeated going into osu game which will be a toss up. Allthough I call these predictions bold I do believe they have a great chance of coming to fruition. Does anyone agree with me?. Am I close or am I off my rocker.
And I think the consensus has been 247 composite is the most accurate, if not reliable, but in the end, does it really matter?
Formatting posts is underrated.
No, Michigan won't have 20/20 recruits in the ESPN 300.
Are you talking about the 2017 or 2018 season record? I don't think there's any way this team is undefeated going into the Ohio State game this year, and it won't be a toss-up, either.
correct that it's extremely unlikely we'll be undefeated going into Ohio State this year, because it's very hard to go 11-0 against a tough schedule. But The Game should be a near tossup at home. I'd be surprised if they're favored by more than a FG.
I think the argument is more that OSU has more 1-50, 51-100. The thought being the top 50 or so have the best chance of being elite, then as you move down the lines blur and who's to say #251 is better than #300?
They're picking up more top guys that everyone prefers, on balance that should mean better players.
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"boldly off your rocker"
This thread fucking sucks.
What I really hate are guys who are just so anxious and desperate to be "known," and think that starting a thread will give them street cred, that they come up with nonsense like this thread and then give it a name that sounds like it might be something useful -- until, of course, you take the time to read the post and realize what a giant waste of your time it was.
Street cred?????. Just wanted to get some predictions from the posters. Maybe some insight into recruiting numbers and strength. Really just thought it would be fun. Do wonder how much cred I get if either predictions happen. Sorry for wasting your time, but you can be sure I strongly await a thread to be posted by you and a couple of the other thread critics and experts.If I was desperate to be known I would come up with some vulgar and completely brilliant statements like " this fucking thread sucks".
I HIGHLY doubt OP's intent was to get "known" and acquire street cred with the MGoBlog Community. LOL!
Desperate to be known? what are you even talking about?
think people are getting carried away with their take on how fast this team is going to recover from losing like 10 players to the draft. We have some promising young talent, but not the kind of overwhelming talent that OSU had last year that allowed them to reload without growing pains. Is it possible for us to be really good next year, yeah, I think the talent is there if it develops really fast.
But undefeated going into OSU? Yes, that is bold. Bolder than Mandwich Bold. Bolder than A1 Bold.
I see some of these preseason rankings, and, well, I just don't know. #10 in the nation? We lost like our entire starting defense, that is barely hyperbole. I just don't know man.
most on defense were in the rotation last year, especially on the DL
I don't believe the current starting line-up has any true freshman playing - just in backup roles
and other than PSU, Wisconsin and OSU who on the schedule is scary?
Is not an automatic win either
underplayed, not overplayed. Yes, Gary, and Winovich rotated, with some Mone as well. Winovich and Gary were very good for the most part, Mone was OK. Hurst is a beast, and Gary will be as well. Yes, if we stay healthy, we have a check mark in the D-line box.
As far as the rest of the defense, Bush got spot duty and looked pretty good. The young players in our secondary looked decent against Florida State. But we lost Lewis, Peppers, Thomas, Stribbling, and Hill. Two All-Americans, four All BIG performers. And no, those guys were not rotational players, they were every snap players.
I don't think the losses on defense are overplayed, at all.
And Florida, PSU, Wisconsin, are all 50/50 games, and OSU is OSU. So who is scary? All of those teams. The OP says undefeated going into OSU. That is a tall task.
"In the rotation" doesn't mean much. Hudson didn't play much defense at all, the cornerbacks barely played, and last year there was EXPERIENCED depth. There are lots of issues on defense.
I'm not sure that we can say "there are lots of issues on defense." There are definitely question marks, and we don't know how the talent will respond to being tested. If they step up and fill their roles at or near the level of their predecessors, we may not have any issues. That may be a pretty big "if." Perhaps it's just a matter of semantics and your "issues" are my "question marks."
But are his commas your semicolons?
I understand and agree with the caution here in making BOLD predictions. The good thing is the next up players we have are exceptional athletes from a top 5 recruiting class. I expect them to grow up fast because they are well coached and Harbaugh will have them prepared.
As for OSU, I know they have a lot of good players returning but the law of averages says that its our turn and after being robbed last year, at the glue factory, you could bring in the Cleveland Browns as ringers, It's going down!!! "
You guys have been getting fat while I was away. Ok, here's the deal, if a nickle bag get sold in the park I want in"
There will certainly be starters in the secondary who were not heavily in the rotation last year if at all. VIPER will be manned by guys who didn't play there last year, and the DL will have 2 or 3 true frosh getting significant snaps. WR will likely see true frosh starting games, and its not out of the question at OL either. There may be double-digit true Sophs starting. This team will be young. It'll be much younger than OH and PSU. It will be slightly younger than FL and WI.
OH, @PSU, @WI and FL are all very tough games.
Depth will be a problem. It's unusual to get through an entire season without losing a starter for significant time. The starting lineup looks great on paper, but who is behind them?...a bunch of unproven guys and/or true freshman. So, even the 2-deep could be a problem on the d-line.
The difference was that last year OSU had a lot of first time starters who had been in the program for a couple of years. They also returned players on their D-line and LB's that were starters the previous year. The young guys being asked to step in for Michigan at WR and DB still aren't eligible to jump into the draft after this upcoming season as the players from OSU did last year.
That is why there is plenty of optimism for 2018, with all of these young, talented players getting game reps, but expect some growing pains this season.
Counterstrike is the best recruting site.
and Raback is the best crystal baller.
I don't think you were ever ON your rocker
you are "off your rocker", as you say. The 2017 class is the first great recruiting class for JH. BUT, OSU's 2017 class was near record setting, and OSU appears to have caught Bama as an uber-elite recruiting program.
This doesn't mean that we will not eventually be near-equal with OSU on the field on a regular basis, but those days are likely a couple years away. If the coaches get this year's team to 9-3 with an excellent bowl game, it would be impressive given the level of youth and inexperience.
to our top 10 2016 recruiting class?
Gone and forgotten to make way for recency bias
& it might be our new floor, but rankings can be deceiving, especially since # of recruits is a large factor. The 2016 class had a lot of of mid-level 3 stars, as reflected by the lower avg player rating. Ppl pay too much attention to class size (which can vary a lot yr to yr) but in the long run it's average player rating for their position that is most important. Look at the average 247 composites, removing specialty players like fullbacks and punters. 2017 is substantially better and only Bama and OSU have appreciably better recrutiing classes in 2017, with the usual caveats about recruiting site ratings applying.
wasn't as good as 2017, but is still a top 10 class
and not just do to volume
6 top 100 players
9 total in the top 150
2017 was 6 and 11 respectively
the main difference is 2017 only had 3 players below the top 500 where 2016's had 9.- for each class one of them was a P or K,
2016 may be the floor under Harbaugh but it was a damn solid floor
that it was a very good class and "a damn solid floor". There are also some mid 3 stars in the 2016 class that I think will way over-perfrom (eg, Metellus). The context for my comment was most players in a very good class of 2nd year players and a great class of 1st years will likely take 1-2 more years to achieve their potential, especilly given the low yield of the 2014 and 2015 classes. I would LOVE to be wrong, tho. :)
did you skip the punctuation lessons in grade school?
100 or so days can't go fast enough
I think we move one step closer to our goal this year. I think we have one loss going into OSU game. I dont know by whom, but I dont think it will be PSU or MSU. PSU gets out-coached by Harbaugh once again.and Michigan is officially back to dominating the state again, although MSU gives us a good game.
I think we finally beat the hell out of an undefeated OSU, and get the monkey off Harbaugh's back. We win the Big Ten regular and postt season Championship. Then we get our butts kicked by a super athletic Jalen Hurts and Alabama. who's got something to prove after losing to Clemson in January.
Good news is if Rashan Gary comes back for a third year, I'm thinking we take the next step and we win a National Championship and nobody can stop us. If he goes to the NFL, It will will be a dog-fight of a Playoff game and with some luck and superior coaching, we still could win it all. I can't wait!!!!!!!
Yeah, going undefeated into the Game is unlikely, in my opinion.
But the OSU game, being in Ann Arbor, has a decent chance to be a toss-up. They're capable of having an off year, and we're capable of going full Ewing Theory post Peppers. Even if it's not a toss-up in Vegas going in, I wouldn't be shocked at all if we won.