19 Former 3 Star Recruits Expected to Have Major Roles in UM Football in 2019

Submitted by East Quad on July 1st, 2019 at 4:58 PM

There are 19 former 3-star recruits that the author says will be expected to have major roles in UM football this year:

Jon Runyan     Mike Danna   Sean McKeon  Mike Dwumfor  Devin Gil  Khaleke Hudson 

Josh Metellus  Nick Eubanks   Josh Uche   Kwity Paye   Ben Mason   Andrew Steuber   

J'Marick Woods   Brad Hawkins   Christian Turner   Vincent Gray   Ben Van Sumeren

Ronnie Bell   Mike Sainristil

Hope for player development by coaching staff.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-about-ann-arbor/sports/19-former-3-star-recruits-expected-to-play-major-roles-for-michigan-football-this-season#/questions

Hold This L

July 1st, 2019 at 5:04 PM ^

I don’t know if that’s good that we are finding diamonds in the rough or bad that our 4 and 5 stars aren’t tapping into their potential as well as some of these other guys.

obviously some are like DPJ. But still.

wolverine1987

July 1st, 2019 at 6:07 PM ^

True. But also wrong. It's beyond debate after at least two dozen looks at it, that the ratings matter. They don't guarantee, but nothing does in human evaluation. 1st round draft picks don't pan out sometimes and 6th rounders sometimes become the greatest QB in history, but 10 out of 10 times you want the 1st round pick.

umgoblue11

July 1st, 2019 at 7:46 PM ^

Ratings only matter so much. The top 30 elite guys almost every school would love to have. Not all of those guys are Michigan type recruits though. From there it's basically a crap shoot. Look at the NFL Draft-- they have way more data points on guys and have entire staffs to scout and form opinions on players and they still have a high bust rate. It's all about getting dudes that fit your system and have projectability. 

Michigan like schools like Alabama, Clemson, OSU, etc has a prototype they look for in prospects. They have an NFL-style system run by a former NFL GM and Sean McGee in place and they trust their evals on guys way more than any star ranking. Coupled with seeing them in person and all their due diligence put them way ahead of any recruiting service. This whole star-gazing aspect is hilarious to folks on college staffs across America. I can list dozens of names of guys that are ranked highly on Rivals or ESPN that aren't even on some college's boards.

East German Judge

July 1st, 2019 at 8:07 PM ^

Here we go again....you are right, on an individual basis you can name so many 5 & high 4 stars who were either not drafted or did not stick in the NFL AND lots of 3 stars who are/were All-Pros. 

HOWEVER, in the aggregate and when you are comparing top programs which had good coaches on both sides of the field, 5 and high 4 stars as a percentage of their underlying population do better than the population of 3 stars.  So with everything else be equal, the odds in the aggregate and over time are better for a team which has more 5 and high 4 stars vs. 3 stars.

Brian8603

July 1st, 2019 at 8:55 PM ^

Ummm....so? The problem with the Stargazers is that they know about the correlation between rankings and on-field success....and pretty much nothing else about recruiting. It's basically GM mode on a video game to them. They have zero ability to put a recruit's ranking into any kind of context. Why even participate in recruiting discussions if your take on Michigan's class is going to be entirely dependent on the the final 24/7 composite ranking? Just wait until December and give your predictable "Too many 3 stars!" take and leave it to the rest of us who actually watch film, follow players, read analysis etc. I don't know that much about recruiting but I know enough to spot someone who knows even less. 

JonnyHintz

July 2nd, 2019 at 7:29 AM ^

 But that’s the problem. We aren’t talking about hundreds of 4/5 stars and comparing them to thousands of three stars. We ARE talking about individuals. We’re talking about maybe a dozen three star recruits in a year. We’re talking about people bitching about every single three star individual.

 

That’s where rankings aren’t important, and that’s what we’re dealing with in terms of this program’s recruiting. Individuals. Not the concept of three stars versus four stars versus five stars. It’s this staff, going out, evaluating players, and bringing in the players they like. Simple as that. 

DHughes5218

July 1st, 2019 at 11:08 PM ^

Star gazing might be hilarious to the college staffs, but have you noticed that the top 100 rated players are usually the ones with all the top offers from the elite schools? You don’t see too many guys ranked in the top 300 who only have offers from Rutgers and Illinois. If recruiting services were so wrong, Alabama wouldn’t be in the Championship game every year. 

Why doesn’t this argument come out when we land a five star commit? Where are the people saying don’t count on Dax Hill contributing this year. He may have been a five star, but these recruiting services are a joke.

ldevon1

July 1st, 2019 at 6:41 PM ^

I honestly don't care about stars, but I do care about the draft. If those guys get drafted, or make teams as FA, that means they were pretty damn good players. The most important thing is winning games, and I believe this roster will win more games that any roster he has had since Harbaugh has been here. IMO, the missing link on all of our past teams, has been that consistent difference make on offense. Every great team has a play maker the other team should have to scheme to stop. This team, should have that, finally. Whether its Shea, DPJ, Nico, or all of them, we shall see. 

NeverPunt

July 1st, 2019 at 8:26 PM ^

Hahahahahaha holy shit if you think this fan base settles for complacency you must be new to Michigan fandom. ? welcome to your new fandom. You can collect your constant assumption that nothing will ever go our way at the registration table. The UNACCEPTABLE seminar starts at 5:30 and there’s counting stars 101 across the hall from the restrooms. Your negativity deposit is due on the first and fifteenth of every month or more often if you feel like it. Go Blue!!

MoCarrBo

July 1st, 2019 at 7:04 PM ^

Win a Big Ten title, Beat Ohio state and Michigan State

 

Everything else, including 10 wins, is fluff. Especially with how weak the bottom half of the big ten is with the expansion

dcloren2121

July 1st, 2019 at 8:06 PM ^

I understand why there's the whole "treat every game the same" thing but this^^ is exactly right.  UM/OSU are in a position where if they're good enough to consistently beat the other, they should be good enough to win the conference.  If we beat OSU, we likely are in great shape to win the league. 

Qmatic

July 1st, 2019 at 5:15 PM ^

Almost all of these players have proven to be good B1G level players. Some, like Hudson, Metellus, and Runyan have been All-B1G. Out of the projected starters out of this group, aside from maybe Gil, the rest have proven to be quality starters regardless of their starz 

RXwolverine

July 1st, 2019 at 5:16 PM ^

I mean this is good and bad but let’s face it we are not gonna be world beaters this year and we don’t need to be. Just go 10-2 with a win against osu and then go from there. I would be more than happy with that. 

MichiganStan

July 1st, 2019 at 5:21 PM ^

Youre trying to say 3 stars are OK? I don't really get the point

So we have 3 stars who play major roles on the team. Maybe that's why we don't have an elite football program

Panther72

July 5th, 2019 at 7:01 PM ^

I get that 3 stars can rise to being the exception rather than the rule, but if those 3 stars are a half step slower, or not as football smart, or fall behind in ratings because they lack just a little less desire than the 4 and 5s, that may be why our season has ended so disappointingly. There  is little substitute for speed, smarts and desire IMO. So many 3 star worry me. That said, coaching the players with the correct scheme is important. Either way, Im true blue, I can never give up on my team. Go Blue!