CSU - An Alumni Introspection

Submitted by Blau on August 19th, 2022 at 3:01 PM

Hey All,

I have to say as an avid MGoBlog user/abuser, I often don't read many diary entries as it mostly comes across as sappy, snowflake-y emotional content or the extremely rigid, somewhat boring data-driven posts that cause me to look forward to going to the DMV. I stick to the MGoBoard that is always full of high quality, relevant information that pertains only to UM sports and rarely nothing else. I've also been around these parts since we used to have the user-created banner contest and Ronald Johnson (RoJo) spurred UM for a shot with USC. Those were the days...

 
Should've picked UM

That said, as my undergrad alma mater CSU gets set to take on UM in couple weeks, I feel compelled to share a closer look into the university, town and football program that occupied 4 of some of the best years of my life. I know we have a large contingent of folks from Colorado, so please fill in any blanks as you see fit. Photos compliments of Google Image search.

 
Welcome Rammies

Setting the stage: I attended Colorado State University from 2008-2010. Originally from West Michigan, my parents moved out to Denver in 2006 and after high school, I followed them out west as well. My first year of college was spent at UNC (NTUNC). I'm talking about University of Northern Colorado in Greeley. All I can say about that first freshman year is... not much. It's a weird cow town with little-to-no reason to get involved with any sports or athletics on campus. My roommate was a Brazilian bodybuilder and how they paired us together I'll never fucking know. He was a good kid and we actually got along great. But after the most boring year ever, I transferred to CSU in Fort Collins about 30 miles west against the foothills of the Rockies. It was the right decision needless to say.

 
If you look really close, you can see the "A" on Horsetooth that freshman paint every year. I guess that's a tradition.

The town: Situated about 1 hour north of Denver (1.5 with I-25 traffic) is the City of Fort Collins. While mostly recognized as a quintessential "College Town" and often ranked by those bullshit online publications as one of the best college towns in the country, it has almost everything a college student could desire. Great location to any outdoor recreational activity (Horsetooth Reservoir, Poudre River, Big Thompson River, Red Feather Lakes), amazing bar/brewery/venue scene (New Belgium, Odell, FCB, Equinox, The Crown, Coopersmith's, Lucky Joe's) and some hidden gem food spots (Snooze, The Rio, Silver Grill Cafe, Tap and Handle, Rainbow Cafe). Whatever lifestyle you live, you'll find 5+ options to do it and do it well. As with most places in Colorado, it has become highly desirable and finding a decent priced house there will set you back a few bucks. A good football team would really tie the room together though. 

 
Old Town

Fun facts and Reputation: Old Town Fort Collins actually inspired the design of Walt Disney's theme parks and is really the focal point of the city outside of the college area. Balloon Boy took his first flight not too far way and New Belgium's Tour de Fat had it's beginnings here. The Beatles, Rolling Stones and others had all played at CSU's old Hughes Stadium.

 

"Yipppeeeee"

During my time at CSU, many older folks who have deeper roots in Colorado than I do often said to me "Fort Collins is now what Boulder used to be". While I don't have anything personally against the Patagonia fleece vest-wearing, Chaco-crazed, Range Rover-driving folks 30 minutes south, I've come across many people of the "shit don't stink" variety in that town. Fort Collins in many ways has a laid-back culture that embraces the outdoors, a good beer and not taking yourself too seriously. You'd like it.

 
Beautiful and essentially 3 minutes from campus

The Campus: A pretty large suburban campus in the west part of the city that has a total of about ~35K students. The best way to get around is a bike but you could hoof it too if you aren't in rush. Bikes weren't allowed through campus and the bike cops were always dicks. Probably still the same. I lived on campus my first year, even though I wasn't a freshman, to make some new friends and be close to everything. I lived in Newsome Hall (now across from Canvas Stadium) which was kind of crappy and run down but in a fun, cute little college charm way. Met a lot of lifelong friends and glad I had that experience.

 
Left hand side, Bottom floor, 4 windows down. Memories.

Athletic facilities: Going to date myself here but when I attended CSU, football games were still at Hughes Stadium. Hughes was right up against Hoorsetooth Reservoir which was cool but it was about 4 miles off campus. Which meant for the student contingent wanting to roll out of bed and walk to the game, that wasn't going to happen. They had shuttles and busses along with plenty of parking but the atmosphere were muted. The stadium itself was old and not particularly intimidating. Also tail gaiting in the dusty dirt lot before games was not always the essence of aesthetics but it got the job done. I've never been to Canvas Stadium but it looks pretty awesome and is finally on campus. Moby Arena is home to M/W basketball and other indoor court based sports. Again, nothing to write home about but I hear there are renovations coming for that complex too. 

 
CSU is also a "blast-a-cannon on the sidelines after scoring a touchdown" type of team if you didn't know. It's annoying and doesn't happen often.

Lastly, the team: My wife and I moved back to Michigan about 2 years ago from Denver and I was nervous we'd never get to watch any CSU games. Thanks to late night Fox Sports, I actually was able to watch 3 games live last year before eventually falling asleep on the couch because that's what CSU Football will do to you.

Listen, CSU is a middling MWC team at best these days. Should they be? Probably not. They are in a great TV market, they likely have the best facilities in the conference and have always recruited pretty well in CA, TX and FL after the P5 guys get their share. The issue is, and has been, the coaching carousel since longtime HC Sonny Lubick left and well before my time. First year Coach Jay Norvell says all the right things, has a great pedigree and has embraced the culture of the university and past teams that haven't been felt in a long time. An air-raid offense will certainly be welcomed and help the team stretch the field and CSU returns a decent to good amount of depth on the defense, especially with their linebackers and some returning DBs. Who knows what their new identity will look like but I'm eager to get out of the shadow of Air Force, SDSU, Boise State and win some meaningful games. There's been some talk about moving up to a P5 conference with all the realignment shuffling but that won't happen unless the product on the field matches the investment that has been put behind it.

 
Remember little Dee Hart, the #1 all-purpose RB from 2010 who initially verbally committed to UM and eventually signed with Bama? That dude wound up at CSU in 2014 and did pretty damn good from what I remember. And that's the only connection I can come up with between our squads beside the 1994 Holiday Bowl. Also Urban Meyer coached here for a bit under Bruce Earle but we don't talk about that.

I'll see a lot of you in a couple Saturdays. Every fall Saturday since the mid 90's has been a passionate love affair for UM but for the first time ever in my fandom, I'll be cheering for the away team at the Big House. After that, back to the Maize and Blue. Go ahead and share some of your allegiances outside of UM and if you'd ever root for them against the Wolverines.

Comments

s1105615

August 19th, 2022 at 3:49 PM ^

Neat post.  Thanks for sharing.

 

As for secondary fandoms, my dad is retired Air Force and he taught ROTC at Notre Dame while I was 3-5 yrs old.  I don’t hate Notre Dame like many others here do, but I grew very tired of Brian Kelly and see no reason to like Marcus Freeman either, so I root for Notre Dame pretty rarely these days.
 

The other school that has gained a soft spot for me is Iowa.  I met my now best friend 27 years ago in high school in Dayton, Ohio and spied him hand drawing a Hawkeye logo.  Since I paid almost no attention to sports I wasn’t actively playing in at the time, I didn’t have any idea what it was or have any reason for it to bother me after he told me what it was when I asked.  Our friendship grew around a lot of things but really solidified around college football and our mutual dislike of the Buckeyes.  We made a habit of betting $1 on the outcome of any UM/Iowa games (and I required spreads included under RichRod and Hoke), but we made a large $5 bet on who would win a Conference Championship first after the 2011 season.  Various different friendly trash talking sessions led to us doubling down and adding a caveat:  if Iowa and UM play each other in the B1GCG, winner gets the $10 and the loser pays for a Ruth Chris dinner.

I had 6 tickets available to the game in Indy and despite my efforts to get him to cancel the bet last November, he refused and decided not to come to the game with me and my son (my parents came instead and we sold the extra pair to some other UM fans my dad knew).

I’m still waiting on hearing whether or not he wants to run the bet back again this year.

1974

August 19th, 2022 at 5:26 PM ^

Nice work, Blau. I enjoyed your diary post. I've been to Ft. Collins only once but have good memories of it.

On Balloon Boy: His dad was a textbook reality TV narcissist. Memorable.

Don

August 20th, 2022 at 7:45 AM ^

Hughes Stadium was named for longtime head football coach Harry W. Hughes, who helmed CSU football for 31 seasons starting in 1911. That’s a crazy long run.

The Geek

August 20th, 2022 at 9:44 AM ^

One of my HS buddies went to CSU and raved about “Fort Fun.” He wound up living there year round his sophomore year working at the Budweiser plant(?) nearby. 
That was late 80’s and it still looks like an awesome place to live. 

g_dubya

August 20th, 2022 at 10:50 AM ^

I have lived in Fort Collins since 1997 and got my Masters at CSU. You hit most of the main points about Fort Collins although Snooze with a line out the door is not very 'hidden' and The Rio's food sucks. You should probably add that Urban also worked for Sonny Lubick who actually had some decent teams here in in the late 90's/early 00s. Urban was also tasked to help find the last coach, Steve Addazio, who was well covered in the Opponent Watch. After that debacle, CSU opted not to have Urban help out this last time. 

Also, CSU's AD is former Michigan Associate AD Joe Parker.  Parker was instrumental in getting the new stadium built but has been less successful in getting fans in the seats.

Edit: Should also mention they had some decent teams under everyone's favorite fish f**ker Jim McElwain before he got pulled to Florida. Since then it has been not very good.

ILL_Legel

August 20th, 2022 at 12:15 PM ^

Our family of 5 visited CSU the first week of August as part of my son’s college tour process.  We really enjoyed our 2.5 days there.  Snooze breakfast was amazing.  Drove to the reservoir and to Estes Park.

17 year old me would have it at the top of the list (behind Michigan of course) but it isn’t going to make the top 5 for my son.  He is focused in on exactly what he wants (hospitality management)  He doesn’t have the grades for Michigan.  Pretty sure he is headed somewhere south or far west.

Buy Bushwood

August 21st, 2022 at 3:14 PM ^

Having grown up in Colorado, I will second anything positive about CSU and Fort Collins.  It's an amazing town.  Great vibe, great places, great surrounds. It's quite a good public university, with perhaps the best veterinary school in the nation.  Incredible agricultural and animal science programs which were its "Aggie" foundation. Today good engineering, environmental and natural sciences departments. Still, it's a relatively small state univ. CSU has always been a competitive football program with a decent history, though this on the scale of the Mountain West/WAC.  CSU famously fired Earle Bruce in the 90's, after he had resurrected the program, for physically intimidating/assaulting players and members of the athletic dept.  He had a teary-eyed tantrum calling out the university president as his swan song.  Then Sonny Lubick took over, who had been the D-Coordinator at Miami (ytM) and directed the absolute pinnacle of CSU football. Still having roots in CO, I'd love to see a team like UM come in and play in Fort Collins, but it will never happen. I was at the ~1996 UM/CU game in Boulder, which was both an amazing game and is an amazing place to watch a football game.  Doubt I'll ever see the Wolverines return.  

BTB grad

August 22nd, 2022 at 3:06 PM ^

I was in Colorado Springs a few weeks back. As I drove through the town, I passed a venue with a sign that read “POP EVIL” and that day’s date. I was very tempted to go see them that night just to hear a cringe playing of “In the Big House”

drjaws

August 23rd, 2022 at 11:41 AM ^

Visited Fort Collins when I went to hang out with my brother in Colorado about 20 years ago. He moved back to Michigan about 17 years ago. We also visited Golden and Boulder. I like FC the best, so there's that.

My second team is my alma mater, the University of California Golden Bears. Great school, shitty sports teams for the most part (besides rugby and water sports). 

Fun fact, I had season tix in 2003 and was at the came where Aaron Rodgers and Cal handed USC their first loss in 2 years in OT. Suck it Matt Leinart

Slim Whitman

August 29th, 2022 at 12:49 PM ^

I never had any use for FC, but I was in Boulder when Fat Tire was still brewed in Longmont, i.e., the dark ages.  So long ago that the CU law school had keggers on Fridays in the fall.

FC seemed to have all the charm of Cheyenne, or of Mt Pleasant when I was at WMU (which is to say almost none at all). Glad the town seems to have grown up to match its location.

No real hate for the rams. Can't ever root for them over my Buffs, but I thought Sonny was a good dude.

My sympathies for enduring Greeley. We could smell it in Boulder if the wind was right.

g_dubya

August 30th, 2022 at 8:21 PM ^

I don't think Fat Tire was ever brewed in Longmont.

From New Belgium's history website:

https://www.newbelgium.com/company/story/

March 1991 - Kim and Jeff install brewing equipment into the basement of their Fort Collins home.

June 1991 - Kim and Jeff begin test brews of two beers: an amber ale -- lovingly named Fat Tire.

October 1995 - Having outgrown the three-year-old production facility, New Belgium relocates a few blocks down the street to our current brewery and taproom location.