Change is hard - Part I

Submitted by Ron Utah on

2011 was magical, but the delay in instituting "his" offense likely hurt Brady Hoke

Sometimes a good coach doesn’t work out because the pieces don’t fit.  There is little doubt that the transition to a spread offense was tougher than even Rich Rod himself could have predicted.  And while bringing power offense to Michigan in 2011 would have meant sacrificing the talents of Denard Robinson (who likely would have transferred if asked to play RB) and our only bowl win since 2007, I wonder if it would have been better for Hoke (not for us as fans)?  If Brady Hoke had gone 5-7 in his first year with a new offense, is it plausible that the 2014 version would have looked much better?  

I am NOT making the case that Brady Hoke should have been retained.  I am pointing out a fact in college football: Change is hard.

Brian wrote an impassioned case for Dan Mullen yesterday, whom I believe would be a very good hire for Michigan.  There is, however, a big risk: the transition to Mullen’s offense takes too long and the impatient fanbase forces another coaching change.

 

What I wanted to do was to breakdown every player on our offense’s two-deep and to what system/style I believe they are best suited.  Keep mind that every program mixes elements of different systems, but the most successful outfits have an established identity with corresponding constraints that can maximize their personnel.  Part I is a brief breakdown of the systems, part II will explore which players fit each style.

Power football says, "I am going to punch you in the face," then does it

 

Power Running: The hallmark of any “power” running team is using an extra blocker at the point of attack to open lanes for the ball-carrier.  In today’s college football, that almost always means using pulling offensive linemen, since fullbacks are less and less common.  Motioning TEs and H-Backs are also used.  Power can favor both power and speed backs, and makes the reads for the ball-carrier simpler.  Increasingly, however, these schemes are mixed with zone blocking.  Examples: Stanford and Wisconsin

Zone concepts threaten multiple gaps on every play

 

Zone Running: Simple to explain, hard to master.  Just the block the guy in your zone, and, if that defender is secured, move to the next one.  The zone system is popular because of its versatility: nearly every play gives the ball-carrier at least two choices (and a cut-back) and forces defenses to play very controlled, or risk giving-up a big play.  The drawback is that a good guess by a defensive coordinator or player can blow-up a play, since the O-Line is moving laterally off the snap. Many offenses focus on either inside zone or outside zone.  Examples: Alabama and Iowa

Spread-to-Run can be smashmouth and fullbackian

 

Spread-to-Run: Spread offenses all have one thing in common: their intent to force the defense to “declare” itself pre-snap.  A spread-to-run team utilizes a mobile QB to add an extra blocker for the defense to deal with, and then tilts the math further in its favor by optioning off defenders.  While the O-Line predominantly uses zone blocking in most schemes, there are lots of programs (Auburn, Miss. State) that incorporate power and lead concepts as well.  The passing game is set-up by the run, and usually involves simple plays and patterns that allow the QB to make his decision pre-snap, or set-up the defense with play action.  Examples: Auburn and Ohio State

160 feet never looked so wide

 

Spread-to-Pass: Bias alert!  This is my favorite college offense.  The wide hash marks of the college field force a defense to show its hand pre-snap.  A QB in the shotgun can see the whole field, and, by using receivers spread to the sidelines (or close) can determine with a high rate of success what type of defense (man, zone, help over the top) he is looking at.  Of course, having a mobile QB certainly helps add another element to this offense, but its primary function is to open the field for easy yards and chunk plays with those pre-snap reads that often come from the sidelines.  Examples: Baylor and Notre Dame

Most "pro-style" college offenses are actually hybrids

Pro-style: This scheme mimics the multiple formations and concepts used in the NFL.  There is a lot of under center work for the QB, and route combinations (triangle, high-low, smash, levels, etc.) set-up challenging scenarios for the defense to read-and-react to quickly by threatening multiple layers of the defense and forcing uncomfortable match-ups.  When run correctly, I believe these are the most difficult offenses to defend.  The trouble is, they’re awfully hard to run correctly.  QBs are required to make multiple reads on each pass play and routes must be run with extreme precision.  Pro style offenses can use the pass to set-up the run, or vice versa.  It’s getting increasingly difficult to find a pure pro-style offense in the college game.  Examples: LSU and Michigan State

 

The truth is that all offenses use some combination of these concepts, but, again, most build off of a single style and related constraint plays.  Establishing that identity early in a coach’s tenure is vital, because repetition is a player’s best friend.  Next week I'll match each player on our offensive two-deep with a system that I believe fits him best.

Comments

flashOverride

December 5th, 2014 at 7:54 PM ^

I asked this on a diary a while back: what would the personnel obstacles be for Michigan as far as transitioning to a passing spread? I consider a switch to a zone-read running spread to not be an option at this point, as I know that a mobile QB, more athletic OL, and receivers who are strong blockers are the keys, and Michigan would not be able to sufficiently check those boxes quickly. I am, however, intrigued by the passing spread, but know less about it. I would assume it means more Gallon-esque WRs, but what are the differences, if any, between the type of QB and OL needed to run the passing spread as opposed to pro style?

alum96

December 5th, 2014 at 8:56 PM ^

My ultimate QB would be a Russell Wilson, Donovan McNabb or Troy Smith type.  Hence a passing spread would be my personal prefernce as I believe it creates the most pressure in relation to lesser amount of hits on a QB. 

That said I want a QB who can pass 59-61% completion rate at over 6 yards per attempt with under 10 INTs a year.  Whatever system accomplishes that - do it.

BraveWolverine730

December 5th, 2014 at 11:48 PM ^

I'd bump your YPA average up a bit  to maybe 7.5 YPA as 6 YPA would rank 111th in the NCAA this year. I agree with you about he ideal QB however. An accurate QB who has the ability to make the defense pay when they forget to pay attention to his legs is by far the hardest to defend for defenses. 

GoBLUinTX

December 6th, 2014 at 3:07 AM ^

Jim Harbaugh was every bit the equal to Russell Wilson and in fact should be the benchmark Michigan QBs strive to better.  IMO, no other Michigan QB has had his combination of mobility, passing ability/ finess, toughness and leadership.   And of course he was #3 on the HT ballot for 1986 (Vinny Testaverde).  Drew Henson perhaps comes closest, but he didn't have Harbaugh's mobility nor leadership, and of course he hauled ass before he could complete his college career.

Harbaugh had a career 62.5% passing percentage on 620 attempts, 8.8 Yd/A, and a QB rating of 145.6.

OregonWolverine

December 5th, 2014 at 9:00 PM ^

RU: what style would you consider Stanford to be? The obvious answer is Pro Style, but having watched them a fair bit over here on the left coast, I think it's more subtle than that. They line up with extremely tight spreads in the OL, they use multiple TEs that can block and go vertical, they have QBs who use their legs strategically.

My very amateur analysis is that Harbaugh looked at the talent he had available, observed a league full of defenses oriented at stopping spread offenses, and designed something that could succeed by being highly contrarian. Just as he did in a different way in SF by using Kaepernick in the pistol, zone read, etc.

There seems to be a lot of CC thinking going on that prioritizes the kind of offense we can or should run, then finding a coach to run that. Really good coaches, it seems to me, are more tied to competitive advantage than to any particular system.

Ron Utah

December 5th, 2014 at 11:31 PM ^

Stanford is used as an example of a power running game above, and they are a pro-style passing game.

That said, you are correct: Harbaugh used some of the same principles the spread uses to design his offense, but in very different ways.

Stanford stacks the line of scrimmage and the QB literally counts the defenders on either side (left/right) of the center.  Wherever the defense is weaker, they can run that way, and use traps and whams to bring more blockers to that side.  By using heavy personnel with tight splits, he forces the defense to either load the box--leaving the passing game open--or keep safeties back.  He also forces the defense to use heavy personnel, which, as you said, is NOT the norm in today's game.

I have zero doubt that he would continue to adapt these concepts to personnel.  He finds a way to give his team the upper hand...that's what good coaches do.  At the same time, he'll use these power concepts and "change the math" at the LOS by using traps and whams, which are basically plays where blockers come from unexpected places to open holes for runners.

Even though he uses a pro-style passing attack, his formations do challenge defenses to make clear pre-snap choices that can reduce the complexity of reads in the passing game.  His QBs, by my observation, are usually throwing to the first option and not being asked to do as many progressions as a Borges QB, because he's using motion, play action, and pre-snap reads to tilt the field in his favor.

OregonWolverine

December 6th, 2014 at 12:51 AM ^

Thanks much for the detailed and considerate response! As I said, I'm a rank amateur at this - I think my 1977 high school team had 14 total offensive plays. I learned the playbook as an emergency backup tailback in 2 hours the night before our first scrimmage when our top RB went down with a knee.

What I take away from what you say, in your main post and the Stanford-specific follow up:

- Most importantly, you can play very smart offensive football regardless of your base offensive set. You can force defenses to make choices, and then exploit those choices, via pre-snap or post-snap decisions. This is true whether you line up in shotgun spread, power I, or anything in between.

- Playing physical football is independent of scheme. Stanford and Ohio State - however different - are both undeniably physical offenses. The point of physical football is to give your mean, tough, highly conditioned players enough of a schematic advantage to beat their mean, tough, highly conditioned opponents to the point of attack. Manball is as much or more about coaching as it is about bad attitudes and big butts.

 

Commie_High96

December 5th, 2014 at 10:29 PM ^

I think it is misguided to say that Hoke let Denard have his offense, one of the huge problems in 2011 and 2012 was that Hoke and Borges tried to shoehorn Denard under center for the first half of every game, only to be forced to go spread in the second half to try to win. The problem was there was no identity, there was no commitment to one offense or the other. It was disorganized and half assed.

Ron Utah

December 5th, 2014 at 11:34 PM ^

Go back and watch those games again.  We were in the shotgun in 2011 about 80% of the time.  We ran inverted veer A LOT.

Yes, Hoke failed to get out of Denard what RR certainly could have, but there is no doubt that the offense largely featured Denard in a quasi-option game that was run primarily from the shotgun.  There are notable exceptions--Iowa 2011, Notre Dame 2012--that were disastrous and memorable, but Denard was not under center all that much, especially in 2011.

CoverZero

December 6th, 2014 at 6:36 AM ^

Every RR team at Michigan played loose, sloppy damned football filled with turnovers and horrible defensive tackling, positioning and technique.  Every RR team was Poorly Coached.  Period.

Every Hoke team at Michigan (with the exception of the 11-2 team that somehow got every bounce there way as the God's smiled on Michigan for whatever reason) played loose, sloppy damned football filled with turnovers and horrible techinque in all facets of the game.  Every Hoke team sucked on the road.  Every Hoke team was Poorly Coached.  Period.

Transitions are overrated.  6 of the past 7 Michigan teams have been Poorly Coached & not lacking talent and 1 team was poorly coached but somehow got every fumble and every jump ball go their way.

MonkeyMan

December 6th, 2014 at 12:09 PM ^

There is something to be said about teaching the fundamentals exremely well and creating an unbiased free for all competition among players so that the best player starts no matter what. Many coaches fail on these two points- I believe Hoke did

DanInTexas

December 6th, 2014 at 7:49 AM ^

Great stuff! I've heard the terms "air raid" and "dink and dunk" used, but I have no idea what they mean. Are these additional systems or subsets of the systems you've already mentioned?

flashOverride

December 6th, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^

"Air Raid" is, as far as I know, a pass-based spread offense. "Dink and dunk" can mean a lot of things, though I most often hear it used for something approximating a West Coast offense. The WC is a pass-based attack, but unlike the spread, which is usually oriented toward quick scoring strikes and huge numbers, the WC is about short, easy passes to avoid turnovers and sustain drives, keeping the opposing offense off the field. Accomplishes the possession goal of a smashmouth running attack without needing a bulldozer O-line or bowling ball RB. 

MonkeyMan

December 6th, 2014 at 12:12 PM ^

Ron- your analysis points to 2 suggestions:

1. Pick a new coach similar to your current team

2, keep a coach as long as possible unless they are blah or worse

I think Wisconsin does have an identity and sticks to it- so does Oregon- these teams win a lot no matter the coaches

How do you see the new fits at Nebraska and Florida?

Procumbo

December 7th, 2014 at 10:56 AM ^

" If Brady Hoke had gone 5-7 in his first year with a new offense, is it plausible that the 2014 version would have looked much better?  "

Not really. Looking at the whole of Hoke's tenure, I don't see a plan halfway completed. I see the lack of a good plan. His teams got worse each year and looked, from beginning to end, confused and goofy.